my deltoid is extraordinarily weak for raises compared to other ppl

[Simple Simon]

Actually, if you have ever used anything, you're not natty anymore. Dunno where you guys get that.

So when you wrote natty delts what did you mean?

[Big Chiro Flex]

i experience something similar


in real life people ask me now often about muscles


when natural never lol



yet in a lot of pics where i'm not flexing i look the same

Same.

My first cycle was magical. Like 30lbs in 10 weeks. That was the first time I started getting compliments and such on my size.

I always used t-shirt size as my gauge for growth. At my peak natty days (pretty much these pics in the red), I would wear a Large and it would be fairly loose.

Now I can only buy XL and I fill out the upper half of the shirt pretty well.

I refuse to grow into XXL. It would just looked retarded on me being 5'10. I try to keep my weight under 230 now.

[Shockwave]

He looks natty in rhose pics... fresh from a contest, no hardness or 'pop' like gear users exhibit after a contest. Very similar look to hos 'on gear' pics, where hes smooth and much larger and not nearly as lean.

if he was on gear for his contest he should have displayed a lot more hardness, separation, and detail... he had that 'I dieted natural and got smooth from losing muscle' look.

[Big Chiro Flex]

So when you wrote natty delts what did you mean?

Let it go pal, don't be jealous of a 170lb natty kid who just did his first contest. Pics aren't that great. My delts and tris  grow very  fast, big deal. I wish my chest grew like my delts did. This is my last post with you Jeff unless you wanna discuss something bodybuilding related like an adult.

[Simple Simon]

Let it go pal, don't be jealous of a 170lb natty kid who just did his first contest. Pics aren't that great. My delts and tris  grow very  fast, big deal. I wish my chest grew like my delts did. This is my last post with you Jeff unless you wanna discuss something bodybuilding related like an adult.

Let it go?
Its gone mate, its just you seemed to want to mislead the forum.

Thanks for clearing it up.

[Big Chiro Flex]

He looks natty in rhose pics... fresh from a contest, no hardness or 'pop' like gear users exhibit after a contest. Very similar look to hos 'on gear' pics, where hes smooth and much larger and not nearly as lean.

if he was on gear for his contest he should have displayed a lot more hardness, separation, and detail... he had that 'I dieted natural and got smooth from losing muscle' look.

I don't lie on here bro LOL. I literally took 20 photos this day at the gym after pizza and ice cream and picked the best and my friend did some "lighting" work on it to enhance it. That's it, end of story.

Or this is all an elaborate scheme to "trick" Jeff  

[Big Chiro Flex]

Let it go?
Its gone mate, its just you seemed to want to mislead the forum.

Thanks for clearing it up.

No brother, my integrity is worth more than that. Nice try though. Peace

[anabolichalo]

Same.

My first cycle was magical. Like 30lbs in 10 weeks. That was the first time I started getting compliments and such on my size.

I always used t-shirt size as my gauge for growth. At my peak natty days (pretty much these pics in the red), I would wear a Large and it would be fairly loose.

Now I can only buy XL and I fill out the upper half of the shirt pretty well.

I refuse to grow into XXL. It would just looked retarded on me being 5'10. I try to keep my weight under 230 now.

how big was your natural arm and how big your juiced arm?

[Big Chiro Flex]

how big was your natural arm and how big your juiced arm?

Peak fat juiced arm was 19.25 or something.

Never measured natty, always felt extremely gay, but peak off season natty, I'd guess like 16-16.5 or so?

My physique has always been arm/delt dominant. Shitty chest, grows very slow 

[Simple Simon]

No brother, my integrity is worth more than that. Nice try though. Peace

I really have no idea what your point is now, are you claiming lifetime natty and that the pics were natty?
I now see you admit to using?

So when you wrote natty delts you were indeed misleading the forum or joking, which is it?
If you were joking then thats fine, Bigro didnt get the joke either.

[Big Chiro Flex]

I really have no idea what your point is now, are you claiming lifetime natty and that the pics were natty?
I now see you admit to using?

So when you wrote natty delts you were indeed misleading the forum or joking, which is it?
If you were joking then thats fine, Bigro didnt get the joke either.

 

You seem confused bro.

Never said lifetime natty LOL!

But the red tank top pics were after my first show, age 22 I believe, lifetime natty THEN. Not NOW.

Fuck, I just got sucked into a 10 minute Uk Jeff troll job, I said I wasn't gonna let this happen

[bigmc]

chiro is one of the most honest guys on here

if he says he is natural in that pic then natural he is

its not like he is 250 ripped

[anabolichalo]

You seem confused bro.

Never said lifetime natty LOL!

But the red tank top pics were after my first show, age 22 I believe, lifetime natty THEN. Not NOW.

Fuck, I just got sucked into a 10 minute Uk Jeff troll job, I said I wasn't gonna let this happen

he's trolling you because he doesnt buy the natural story. take it as a compliment and let it go

[Wolfox]

Same.

My first cycle was magical. Like 30lbs in 10 weeks. That was the first time I started getting compliments and such on my size.

I always used t-shirt size as my gauge for growth. At my peak natty days (pretty much these pics in the red), I would wear a Large and it would be fairly loose.

Now I can only buy XL and I fill out the upper half of the shirt pretty well.

I refuse to grow into XXL. It would just looked retarded on me being 5'10. I try to keep my weight under 230 now.

What was your first cycle?

[Simple Simon]

he's trolling you because he doesnt buy the natural story. take it as a compliment and let it go

Wrong, if he says hes natty then thats fair enough, its just hes juiced since then yet his best ever look was natty.
Doesnt really make sense.

[anabolichalo]

Wrong, if he says hes natty then thats fair enough, its just hes juiced since then yet his best ever look was natty.
Doesnt really make sense.

a fat juiced pic can look worse than a shredded natural pic

sure


in person it's a different story tho

[TheShape]

Recently I've switched from heavier weights to lighter weights for my deltoid exercises, the results are much better, deltoids are just one of those muscles that sometimes just grow better with light weight. 

[anabolichalo]

Recently I've switched from heavier weights to lighter weights for my deltoid exercises, the results are much better, deltoids are just one of those muscles that sometimes just grow better with light weight. 

seems that way going by what i feel now (good pump)


let's just hope the results will deliver

[a_pupil]

heavy ass weights for the mass lol  

bigro getting dwarfed in this pic 

[Big Chiro Flex]

he's trolling you because he doesnt buy the natural story. take it as a compliment and let it go

Good point 

[Big Chiro Flex]

a fat juiced pic can look worse than a shredded natural pic

sure


in person it's a different story tho

5% natty always photographs better than 15% juiced. Always.

[ESFitness]

I rarely go over 25's now, and my delts pop like a guy.

[Big Chiro Flex]

I rarely go over 25's now, and my delts pop like a guy.

The best body builders I know personally use baby weights for laterals. It works.

[O.Z.]

Much bigger, and much fatter  

225 here of bloat, happiness, and joy.



Apologies for hi-jacking this thread with my shit pics, but Simon has never competed before and needed some info.

all lean pork

[galeniko]

So when you wrote natty delts what did you mean?

he means he never spot injected into delts