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Obama's delusions
« on: February 08, 2014, 07:15:35 PM »
Obama's magic words: He believes what he says, and that's scary
By George Will
 

 Barack Obama, the first president shaped by the celebratory culture in which every child who plays soccer gets a trophy and the first whose campaign speeches were his qualification for the office, perhaps should not be blamed for thinking that saying things is tantamount to accomplishing things, and that good intentions are good deeds. So, his presidency is useful after all, because it illustrates the perils of government run by believers in magic words and numbers.

The last progressive president promised Model Cities, with every child enjoying a Head Start en route to enjoying an Upward Bound into a Great Society. Today’s progressive president also uses words — and numbers — magically emancipated from reality.
Thirty months have passed since Obama said: “The time has come for President Assad to step aside.” Today, James Clapper, director of national intelligence, says Bashar al-Assad’s grip on power has “strengthened.” In last month’s State of the Union address, Obama defined success down by changing the subject: “American diplomacy, backed by the threat of force, is why Syria’s chemical weapons are being eliminated.” If saying so makes it so, all is well.

Assad, however, seems tardy regarding this elimination, perhaps because the threat of force was never actually made. The Democratic-controlled Senate nullified the threat by its emphatic reluctance to authorize force. Reuters recently reported that Assad had surrendered “4.1 percent of the roughly 1,300 tonnes of toxic agents” he supposedly has. The “.1” is an especially magical number, given the modifier “roughly” attached to 1,300 tons.

The English Civil War was not finally ended by negotiations between Oliver Cromwell and Charles I; Cromwell seized power and Charles lost his head. America’s Civil War ended when Robert E. Lee capitulated to U.S. (“Unconditional Surrender”) Grant. Russia’s civil war ended when Leon Trotsky’s Red Army defeated the White forces. Spain’s civil war ended with Francisco Franco in Madrid and remnants of the loyalist forces straggling across the Pyrenees into France. China’s civil war ended when Chiang Kai-shek skedaddled to Formosa (now Taiwan), leaving the mainland to Mao. But Syria’s civil war — after the massacres, torture, chemical weapons — supposedly will be resolved by a negotiated regime change: with words. Next, words will supposedly result in Iran ending the decades-old and hugely expensive nuclear weapons program that it says is nonexistent, and will proceed.

The magic number 8 percent identified the level above which Obama’s administration said unemployment would not rise, thanks to the 2009 stimulus. Seven dollars is the figure, plucked from the ether, that Obama says will be saved by every dollar spent on “high quality” universal preschool, which is probably defined, with tidy circularity, as preschool that saves seven dollars for every dollar spent on it.

Forests continue to be felled to produce the paper on which are printed the continuing studies demonstrating that the United States, which has more than 2 million miles of natural gas pipelines and about 175,000 miles of hazardous-liquid pipelines, would not be menaced by the 1,179 miles of Keystone XL. The new State Department study says construction “would support approximately 42,100 jobs (direct, indirect, and induced).” Obama, of course, has his own number. In a July 24, 2013, interview with the New York Times, he said construction “might create maybe 2,000 jobs.”


  The workforce participation rate is at a 36-year low; in the second half of the fifth year of the recovery, a smaller fraction of the population is employed or looking for work than was when the recovery began. Nevertheless, the administration is cheerful about the Congressional Budget Office’s conclusion that the Affordable Care Act (ACA) will substantially slow the growth of employment and compensation over the next decade.
The decrease is projected to be nearly three times larger than the CBO had previously predicted. The ACA’s insurance subsidies, which decline with rising income and increase with falling income, will cause many people to choose to stop working, or to work less, or to stop looking for work, thereby reducing the number of hours worked by the equivalent of 2.3 million full-time jobs by 2021.

An administration spokesman did not dispute the CBO’s key finding but hailed it as evidence that the ACA is increasing Americans’ choices. Really.
Many of the words and numbers bandied by Obama and his administration may reflect an honest belief that the world is whatever well-intentioned people like them say about it. So, Obama’s critics should reconsider their assumption that he is cynical. It is his sincerity that is scary.


This is a purple but not a polarized district, with 37 percent Democrat and 36 percent Republican. Although the district gave the world the first Hooters restaurant, the district is unusually elderly, white and disapproving of Obamacare. It also is smoldering about the flood insurance program.
The NFIP is yet another entitlement program that is proving to be more durable, and more emblematic of modern America, than Mount Rushmore. The federal government has long subsidized insurance for homeowners who live in coastal areas or flood plains. This entitlement, covering about 5.5 million of America’s 122 million housing units , is necessary because otherwise people would be required to pay the costs of the risks they choose to run for living where they are pleased to live. The NFIP enables the disproportionately wealthy people who own beach properties to socialize their storm losses while keeping private the pleasures of their real estate. The NFIP is another illustration of the entitlement state’s upward distribution of benefits.

Recent attempts to reform the NFIP — to end subsidized rates for 1.1 million properties and to change rates based on improved risk assessments — threaten to raise by thousands of dollars the annual insurance costs of some property owners here. Both Sink and Jolly are competitively indignant. But the Senate, an unsleeping defender of entitlements benefiting the privileged (witness the new farm bill), has recently derailed reform.
Sink will benefit from the national trend allowing early voting to obliterate Election Day. Any Floridian who has ever requested an absentee ballot henceforth gets one automatically. Seventy-seven percent of the Republican primary votes here were cast by mail in the Jan. 14 primary, and absentee ballots will be mailed Feb. 7. Furthermore, early voting at polling places begins March 1, so many — perhaps most — votes will be cast before Jolly has raised much of the money necessary to communicate his message.

Instead of a community deliberation culminating in a shared day of decision, an election like the one here is diffuse and inferior. If Sink wins, Republicans nationally can shrug; if Jolly wins, Democrats should tremble. But no matter who wins, the district loses because it has lost Election Day.

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Re: Obama's delusions
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2014, 05:34:51 AM »
That is what happens when you elect a muslim drug addicted worthless pos as potus

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Re: Obama's delusions
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Obama's magic words: He believes what he says, and that's scary
By George Will
 

 Barack Obama, the first president shaped by the celebratory culture in which every child who plays soccer gets a trophy and the first whose campaign speeches were his qualification for the office, perhaps should not be blamed for thinking that saying things is tantamount to accomplishing things, and that good intentions are good deeds. So, his presidency is useful after all, because it illustrates the perils of government run by believers in magic words and numbers.

The last progressive president promised Model Cities, with every child enjoying a Head Start en route to enjoying an Upward Bound into a Great Society. Today’s progressive president also uses words — and numbers — magically emancipated from reality.
Thirty months have passed since Obama said: “The time has come for President Assad to step aside.” Today, James Clapper, director of national intelligence, says Bashar al-Assad’s grip on power has “strengthened.” In last month’s State of the Union address, Obama defined success down by changing the subject: “American diplomacy, backed by the threat of force, is why Syria’s chemical weapons are being eliminated.” If saying so makes it so, all is well.

Assad, however, seems tardy regarding this elimination, perhaps because the threat of force was never actually made. The Democratic-controlled Senate nullified the threat by its emphatic reluctance to authorize force. Reuters recently reported that Assad had surrendered “4.1 percent of the roughly 1,300 tonnes of toxic agents” he supposedly has. The “.1” is an especially magical number, given the modifier “roughly” attached to 1,300 tons.

The English Civil War was not finally ended by negotiations between Oliver Cromwell and Charles I; Cromwell seized power and Charles lost his head. America’s Civil War ended when Robert E. Lee capitulated to U.S. (“Unconditional Surrender”) Grant. Russia’s civil war ended when Leon Trotsky’s Red Army defeated the White forces. Spain’s civil war ended with Francisco Franco in Madrid and remnants of the loyalist forces straggling across the Pyrenees into France. China’s civil war ended when Chiang Kai-shek skedaddled to Formosa (now Taiwan), leaving the mainland to Mao. But Syria’s civil war — after the massacres, torture, chemical weapons — supposedly will be resolved by a negotiated regime change: with words. Next, words will supposedly result in Iran ending the decades-old and hugely expensive nuclear weapons program that it says is nonexistent, and will proceed.

The magic number 8 percent identified the level above which Obama’s administration said unemployment would not rise, thanks to the 2009 stimulus. Seven dollars is the figure, plucked from the ether, that Obama says will be saved by every dollar spent on “high quality” universal preschool, which is probably defined, with tidy circularity, as preschool that saves seven dollars for every dollar spent on it.

Forests continue to be felled to produce the paper on which are printed the continuing studies demonstrating that the United States, which has more than 2 million miles of natural gas pipelines and about 175,000 miles of hazardous-liquid pipelines, would not be menaced by the 1,179 miles of Keystone XL. The new State Department study says construction “would support approximately 42,100 jobs (direct, indirect, and induced).” Obama, of course, has his own number. In a July 24, 2013, interview with the New York Times, he said construction “might create maybe 2,000 jobs.”


  The workforce participation rate is at a 36-year low; in the second half of the fifth year of the recovery, a smaller fraction of the population is employed or looking for work than was when the recovery began. Nevertheless, the administration is cheerful about the Congressional Budget Office’s conclusion that the Affordable Care Act (ACA) will substantially slow the growth of employment and compensation over the next decade.
The decrease is projected to be nearly three times larger than the CBO had previously predicted. The ACA’s insurance subsidies, which decline with rising income and increase with falling income, will cause many people to choose to stop working, or to work less, or to stop looking for work, thereby reducing the number of hours worked by the equivalent of 2.3 million full-time jobs by 2021.

An administration spokesman did not dispute the CBO’s key finding but hailed it as evidence that the ACA is increasing Americans’ choices. Really.
Many of the words and numbers bandied by Obama and his administration may reflect an honest belief that the world is whatever well-intentioned people like them say about it. So, Obama’s critics should reconsider their assumption that he is cynical. It is his sincerity that is scary.


This is a purple but not a polarized district, with 37 percent Democrat and 36 percent Republican. Although the district gave the world the first Hooters restaurant, the district is unusually elderly, white and disapproving of Obamacare. It also is smoldering about the flood insurance program.
The NFIP is yet another entitlement program that is proving to be more durable, and more emblematic of modern America, than Mount Rushmore. The federal government has long subsidized insurance for homeowners who live in coastal areas or flood plains. This entitlement, covering about 5.5 million of America’s 122 million housing units , is necessary because otherwise people would be required to pay the costs of the risks they choose to run for living where they are pleased to live. The NFIP enables the disproportionately wealthy people who own beach properties to socialize their storm losses while keeping private the pleasures of their real estate. The NFIP is another illustration of the entitlement state’s upward distribution of benefits.

Recent attempts to reform the NFIP — to end subsidized rates for 1.1 million properties and to change rates based on improved risk assessments — threaten to raise by thousands of dollars the annual insurance costs of some property owners here. Both Sink and Jolly are competitively indignant. But the Senate, an unsleeping defender of entitlements benefiting the privileged (witness the new farm bill), has recently derailed reform.
Sink will benefit from the national trend allowing early voting to obliterate Election Day. Any Floridian who has ever requested an absentee ballot henceforth gets one automatically. Seventy-seven percent of the Republican primary votes here were cast by mail in the Jan. 14 primary, and absentee ballots will be mailed Feb. 7. Furthermore, early voting at polling places begins March 1, so many — perhaps most — votes will be cast before Jolly has raised much of the money necessary to communicate his message.

Instead of a community deliberation culminating in a shared day of decision, an election like the one here is diffuse and inferior. If Sink wins, Republicans nationally can shrug; if Jolly wins, Democrats should tremble. But no matter who wins, the district loses because it has lost Election Day.

George Will who left ABC for Fox News last October, right?  :)

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Re: Obama's delusions
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2014, 01:49:19 PM »
George Will who left ABC for Fox News last October, right?  :)

Was anything written in the article factually inaccurate?

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Re: Obama's delusions
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2014, 03:52:32 PM »
Was anything written in the article factually inaccurate?

Good question:

If President Obama's critics assume he is cynical, they should reconsider, says George F. Will, because the man seems sincere to him, and that's what the critics should be scared about; not the President's non-existent cynicism. Actually, Will expresses this opinion at the end of the article he wrote under the title: “President Obama's magic words and numbers” and published in the Washington Post on February 7, 2014.

The writer went through a great deal of recent and distant histories to make the points that he wanted to make and illustrate; the most basic point being this: Despite the fact that history shows things can only happen when a physical event takes place, President Obama believes that thinking of something and describing it with words is just as valid as when the thing is made to happen in reality.

The trouble is that George Will makes the classic mistake that writers make when they hit on what they believe is a great insight and, in their enthusiasm, try to embellish it at the start of the discussion, thus sow the seeds of its demise, if not its complete demolition. Here is what he did: “Barack Obama, the first president … whose campaign speeches were his qualification for the office.” In effect then, Will admits that having captured the essence of the culture in which he found himself, Barack Obama gave the public the great speeches it wanted to hear, and got it to elect him. So the question is this: Whose fault is that? Obama's or that of the culture that was there before he came on the scene?

Instead of discussing that culture in an attempt to generate the sort of insights that will help identify and remedy its deficiencies, the author scoffs at the record of President Obama by comparing it both with those who – like him – made utopian promises they did not keep such as Lyndon Johnson; and those – unlike him – who created new realities by actions and not words, such as Cromwell, Grant, Trotsky, Franco and Mao.

Whomever he blames for those deficiencies – the culture or the President that adopted it – George Will cites the most immediate issues facing America today, and laments that they are not properly addressed by the Obama Administration. These are the level of employment that failed to rise as a result of the stimulus. The Keystone XL pipeline that requires a decision as to whether or not it will be constructed. And last but not least, the Congressional Budget office latest conclusion that ObamaCare will slow down the economy's rate of growth.

But the Coup de Grace that the writer gives to his writing approach if not his entire thesis comes with the mockery that he levels at the numbers which the President cites. He calls them “magic” numbers as if to mean that Obama believes in the magic of numerology. In fact, Obama mentioned only two numbers. He said that the rate of unemployment will not rise above 8 percent due to the stimulus, and was proven wrong because the rate did rise above that level, if only for a short period of time. The President also said that 7 dollars will be saved by every dollars spent on high quality preschool education, a number that no one has been able to disprove.

And that is considered to be a Coup de Grace because it is George Will who is drowning the reader with the numbers that he cites. You sense that he savors those numbers like a child savors candy in his mouth. He begins with: “Thirty months have passed.” He then quotes Reuters which reported: “4.1 percent of the roughly 1,300 tonnes of toxic agents” was surrendered by Assad. And he hits the reader with an orgy of numbers regarding the Keystone pipeline. Here they are: “2 million miles … 1,179 miles … 42,100 jobs … 2,000 jobs.” And there is more numbers: “36-year low … second half of the fifth year ... decrease nearly three times larger … the equivalent of 2.3 million jobs.”

George Will goes on to say that the words and numbers bandied by Obama's entourage may reflect an honest belief on their part that the world is whatever they say about it. And so now you want to know if this also applies to George Will. If this is the case, does it mean that Will is not cynical but that he scares himself more than Obama scares him?

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Re: Obama's delusions
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2014, 03:52:55 PM »
Was anything written in the article factually inaccurate?

Don't bother, he's a die hard liberal fanatic and major dimwit.  

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Re: Obama's delusions
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2014, 04:03:17 PM »
Don't bother, he's a die hard liberal fanatic and major dimwit.  

Not really.  Just a troll who likes to point out when U make mistakes.  And, damn boy, you be keepin' me busy.

Whorewell, for all his questionable reasoning at least seems to have some brains. 

You, though?  None. 

(Coach is maybe dumber but you were giving him a run for his money with your completely retarded opinion that authentic Mexican food can't be found in the USA.)

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Re: Obama's delusions
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2014, 04:04:04 PM »
Not really.  Just a troll who likes to point out when U make mistakes.  And, damn boy, you be keepin' me busy.

Whorewell, for all his questionable reasoning at least seems to have some brains. 

You, though?  None. 

(Coach is maybe dumber but you were giving him a run for his money with your completely retarded opinion that authentic Mexican food can't be found in the USA.)


You're starting to get worked up.  I love it. 

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Re: Obama's delusions
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2014, 04:07:22 PM »

You're starting to get worked up.  I love it. 

Yeah, pretend that you really think that.  Very believable.

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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2014, 04:08:51 PM »
Yeah, pretend that you really think that.  Very believable.


You know it's true, dimwit. 

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Re: Obama's delusions
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2014, 04:38:03 PM »

You know it's true, dimwit. 

Naw, I actually know that it's not true.  You are probably sore at me because I ridiculed you for your idiotic statements about Mexican food and then other folks agreed that you were wrong. 

Look, I'm sorry...that you felt the need to talk out of your ass about Mexican food. 

Ya win some and you lose some, though, so no big deal?

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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2014, 04:39:21 PM »
Naw, I actually know that it's not true.  You are probably sore at me because I ridiculed you for your idiotic statements about Mexican food and then other folks agreed that you were wrong. 

Look, I'm sorry...that you felt the need to talk out of your ass about Mexican food. 

Ya win some and you lose some, though, so no big deal?


 You're really starting to get mad.  The madder you get the happier I become.

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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2014, 04:41:03 PM »

 You're really starting to get mad.  The madder you get the happier I become.

Oh yeah, I'm furious. 

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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2014, 04:42:45 PM »
Oh yeah, I'm furious. 

I'm glad you can finally admit it.

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