Author Topic: Ariz. Lawmaker Who Voted For Anti-Gay Discrimination Bill Now Wants It Vetoed  (Read 2024 times)

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Source: Talking Points Memo

The pressure is mounting on Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (R) to veto a disputed piece of legislation that would allow businesses to discriminate against LGBT individuals on the basis of religious freedom.

State Sen. Steve Pierce (R), who voted for the bill, now says it was a bad idea and wants to see the bill vetoed.

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The Republican lawmaker told the Prescott Daily Courier that he doesn't like the attention the bill has brought to the state, although he believes the purpose of the legislation has been misconstrued.

"I don't like the negative picture of Arizona, and I'm on board asking the governor to veto the bill," Pierce said.

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/arizona_lawmaker_steve_pierce_veto_antigay_bill


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it's amazing that they didn't think people would see the bill for what it is :o

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The NFL has moved a Super Bowl out of Arizona before over civil rights issues, and if new anti-gay legislation becomes law, the league will have another decision to make
The Arizona Senate passed a bill that allows business owners to refuse service to the LGBT community
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has until Saturday to veto, sign or let the bill become law
The next Super Bowl is scheduled to be played in Arizona, but the NFL is watching closely



Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has until Saturday to either veto, sign or let become law a bill that would allow businesses in her state to deny service to lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgendered people based on the religious beliefs of the business owner. The National Football League is among those watching closely.

Super Bowl XLIX is scheduled for next February 1 at the University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale. The NFL has stopped short of saying the game could be moved elsewhere if the legislation becomes law, but the league has moved a Super Bowl out of Arizona before, and the implicit threat floats invisibly but menacingly in the desert sky.

The controversy comes as the NFL is readying to welcome its first openly gay player in Michael Sam, the Missouri linebacker who came out this month, and just as Jason Collins played his first game for the NBA's Brooklyn Nets as the first openly gay active player in the nation's four major sports leagues.

"The NFL is putting a lot of pressure on the governor (behind the scenes) to veto the bill, from what I can tell," Sam's public relations representative, Howard Bragman, told USA TODAY Sports. "I know the host committee has said, 'Veto it.' And I know the Arizona Cardinals have said, 'Veto it.' I know the NFL is very concerned and watching this very closely."

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said by email: "Our policies emphasize tolerance and inclusiveness, and prohibit discrimination based on age, gender, race, religion, sexual orientation, or any other improper standard. We are following the issue in Arizona and will continue to do so should the bill be signed into law, but will decline further comment at this time."

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Making people do things that are against their religion is just as bad as discriminating against people because they suck cock. Where's the line. There was a great article yesterday that stated that gays have picked all the low hanging fruit as far as gay rights goes...that is at some point soon, their rights as gays will begin to negatively affect somebody else beyond simply offending them. They want to be a protected class as opposed to an equal class. Muslims get away with the same things but because they're already a protected class, there's no backlash. If I own a cake store and don't want to serve you, you do have the choice to go elsewhere. If you're the cake buyer, besides having to find another place to get your cake, there isn't a big deal. You can go on yelp and give me a bad review or other social media outlets. I don't think you have any right to try and either force me to bake you a cake or force me out of business.

This law would appear to be poorly written.
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People pushing this GLBT/gender identity movement don't believe there is a line.  They believe if their sexual preference conflicts with religious beliefs, then sexual preference prevails.  They are pretty extreme.  When the legislature rammed homosexual marriage through a special session here a few months ago, the movement didn't want to give religious organizations any exemptions when it comes to allowing weddings in churches, use of church facilities, etc. 

That is coming next, along banning faith-based religious opposition to lifestyle practices, and triad marriages. 

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Apple to Arizona: Anti-gay bill puts Mesa sapphire plant at risk
 
 
 

   
Source: CNN

Apple (AAPL) confirmed Monday that it has urged Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer to veto a bill that would allow business owners with strongly held religious beliefs to deny service to gays and lesbians.

Since the Arizona statehouse passed the measure last Thursday, Gov. Brewer has faced growing pressure to kill the bill that opponents characterize as "state-sanctioned discrimination."

Three state senators who voted for the bill are now asking her to veto it. So are Arizona's two U.S. Senators: John McCain and Jeff Flake, both Republicans. American Airlines (AAL) and Marriott (MAR) have warned that an anti-gay law could be bad for business.

We don't know who at Apple phoned the Governor, or what exactly was said. But it was only last November that Tim Cook announced that Apple was building a sapphire glass plant in Mesa, AZ, that would bring 2,000 new jobs to the state.


Read more: http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2014/02/25/apple-arizona-gay-discrimination/

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Coach is going to get a meltdown when he see this :D

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"We were uncomfortable with it to start with and went along with it thinking it was good for the caucus," said Sen. Steve Pierce, R-Prescott. "We really didn't want to vote for it. But we made a mistake, and now we're trying to do what's right and correct it."

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Making people do things that are against their religion is just as bad as discriminating against people because they suck cock.
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This law would appear to be poorly written.

I don't mean to pick on ya, HH6, but c'mon:  Your leading sentence is overly general and also contains that almost-no-way-it-can-be-correct "X is just as <adjective> Y".

So forcing anyone to do ANYTHING proscribed by any religion is equally as bad as discriminating against cocksuckers? 

As Omar said, "I thinks not, Terrell, I thinks not."


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Dylan Scott – February 25, 2014, 6:00 AM EST12654



 


If Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer decides to veto the anti-gay discrimination bill waiting on her desk, she'd have a lot of cover from a reliably Republican constituency to defy her GOP colleagues in the state legislature: the business community.

Every major state business group, along with several major individual businesses, have urged Brewer, a Republican, to veto the "religious freedom" bill. The legislation would require the government to have a compelling reason to stop somebody from exercising their religious belief, which gay rights advocates say would lead to LGBT discrimination.


Brewer hasn't officially said what she'll do with the bill -- her options are to sign it, veto it or wait five days and let it become law without her signature. She has noted, that it's very "controversial." Her office didn't comment to TPM.

What doesn't seem to be controversial among prominent Republicans and business interests is what Brewer should do: Veto it. U.S. Sens. Jeff Flake and John McCain (R) want the bill stopped. A leading Republican candidate to replace her, Mesa Mayor Scott Smith, stated his opposition to it.

Now the business community is coming out in droves.

It's a big deal, Rodolfo Espino, a political science professor at Arizona State University, told TPM. Arizona has a history with controversial laws -- like the anti-immigration Senate Bill 1070 that went to the U.S. Supreme Court in 2012 -- that have invited backlash. Businesses in the state don't want to risk losing out-of-state dollars, and Brewer is looking to secure a personal legacy before she leaves office and ensure a Republican follows her in the governor's seat.

"Anything that could impede our economic progress of course impacts the business community. Throughout Arizona's history, you have these outside dollars weighing on their mind," Espino said. "I think she'll pay more heed to the business community. Whatever she does will impact the chances of the next Republican candidates."

Four organizations -- the Arizona Chamber of Commerce and Industry, Greater Phoenix Chamber of Commerce, Greater Phoenix Leadership, and the Southern Arizona Leadership Council -- co-signed a letter Monday urging Brewer to veto the legislation.

"We are troubled by any legislation that could be interpreted to permit discrimination against a particular group of people in the marketplace," the letter reads.

Fortune 500 companies based in or with heavy ties to the states, including American Airlines and Marriott Hotels, issued their own statements opposing the bill.

W. Douglas Parker, CEO of American Airlines, wrote the following:


There is genuine concern throughout the business community that this bill, if signed into law, would jeopardize all that has been accomplished so far. Wholly apart from the stated intent of this legislation, the reality is that it has the very real potential of slowing down the momentum we have achieved by reducing the desire of businesses to locate in Arizona and depressing the travel and tourism component of the economy if both convention traffic and individual tourists decide to go elsewhere. Our economy thrives best when the doors of commerce are open to all. This bill sends the wrong message.


Those fears about tourists avoiding Arizona to send a political message might not just be conjecture. A top tourism industry official told the Arizona Republic that they were already receiving that message.

“We’re greatly concerned,” Kristen Jarnagin, senior vice president of communications for the Arizona Lodging & Tourism Association, said. “We’ve already received countless phone calls and e-mails from people canceling trips or threatening not to return.”

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Hispanic lawyers pull conference from Arizona
 
 
 

   
Source: Associated Press

The Hispanic National Bar Association says it will cancel its 2015 convention in Phoenix over legislation adding protections for people who assert their religious beliefs in refusing service to gays.

The lawyers’ association becomes one of the first groups to pull an event from that state.

President Miguel Alexander Pozo says the group’s board of governors voted unanimously not to hold its national convention in Arizona. He says, quote, “It is imperative that we speak up and take immediate action in the presence of injustice.”

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/free/20140226hispanic-lawyers-pull-conference-arizona.html

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People pushing this GLBT/gender identity movement don't believe there is a line.  They believe if their sexual preference conflicts with religious beliefs, then sexual preference prevails.  They are pretty extreme.  When the legislature rammed homosexual marriage through a special session here a few months ago, the movement didn't want to give religious organizations any exemptions when it comes to allowing weddings in churches, use of church facilities, etc. 

That is coming next, along banning faith-based religious opposition to lifestyle practices, and triad marriages. 

no one is stopping "religious people" from not getting into triad marriages (in spite of the fact that they are in the bible)

Gay marriage has been around for awhile now.   Can you tell us what negative effect it has had on your life or your ability to practice your religion ?

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don't forget anyone who works on the Sabbath
that one is punishable by death


Exodus 35:2
King James Bible

Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death


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It doesn't....and that's about as far as gays need to go. They should get their gay marriage if their states' vote so and then let that be the end of it. Some gays can't let it go that people don't like their lifestyle...more directly gay sex...and even more directly male gay sex. Whether its based on religion or just biological disgust...whatever. They want you to embrace it, its not enough for live and let live. They're out to destroy people who don't like them. The cake people weren't out on a crusade against gays...the gay folks came to them and then there was the issue. I bet it wasn't even their idea to sue...it was the gay agenda folks. Its like that with everything...there are ambulance chasers for every cause.
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Blacken.....you people are now the ones pushing all this shit...come on. Every time you turn around there's law suit because somebody got their feelings hurt.
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Bigots hide behind religion all the time,nothing to see here

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It doesn't....and that's about as far as gays need to go. They should get their gay marriage if their states' vote so and then let that be the end of it. Some gays can't let it go that people don't like their lifestyle...more directly gay sex...and even more directly male gay sex. Whether its based on religion or just biological disgust...whatever. They want you to embrace it, its not enough for live and let live. They're out to destroy people who don't like them. The cake people weren't out on a crusade against gays...the gay folks came to them and then there was the issue. I bet it wasn't even their idea to sue...it was the gay agenda folks. Its like that with everything...there are ambulance chasers for every cause.

they don't want you to embrace them nor are they looking for your approval and I'm sure they don't give a shit whether you think gay male sex is icky or not

they just want to treated like every other citizen in this country and not be discriminated against

it's not any more complicated than that

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Blacken.....you people are now the ones pushing all this shit...come on. Every time you turn around there's law suit because somebody got their feelings hurt.

You people ,what's that non bigots

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There's a militant gay agenda at work here.

No straw it is...the vast majority feel just how you posted. The ones who sue and march and whine and do all the things that piss everybody off...are the ones pushing this shit to the extreme. At some point enough is enough....at some point you go from getting basic human rights to pissing off everybody. The next step is a pink triangle and a camp.
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You people ,what's that non bigots

No u leftist, communists, terrorist loving, revisionist history writing, American hating, anti-sematic, socialist.....kale eating...latte drinking...coast dwelling....trial lawyer loving...activist judge supporting....Obama fawning.....people...aga in...U PEOPLE!!!!!

Merica....love it or leave it.
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There's a militant gay agenda at work here.

No straw it is...the vast majority feel just how you posted. The ones who sue and march and whine and do all the things that piss everybody off...are the ones pushing this shit to the extreme. At some point enough is enough....at some point you go from getting basic human rights to pissing off everybody. The next step is a pink triangle and a camp.

what extreme do you see them pushing beyond equal treatment under the law?

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There's a militant gay agenda at work here.

No straw it is...the vast majority feel just how you posted. The ones who sue and march and whine and do all the things that piss everybody off...are the ones pushing this shit to the extreme. At some point enough is enough....at some point you go from getting basic human rights to pissing off everybody. The next step is a pink triangle and a camp.

Lol tje only ones getting angry are the bigots hiding behind religion