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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2014, 05:31:08 AM »
No offense, but Federov aside, your examples are really stupid.  

Badell was top 3 twice and beat Ronny in the challenge round.  Won a couple other shows and had additional top 6 and top 10 Olympia finishes.  

Wolf barely wider than Heath?  What the fuck are you smoking.  One of, if not the widest bodybuilder ever.  Runner up at the Arnold twice top 3 at the O and climbing.

Now go away.

Dennis Wolf is wide at the shoulders, however he has a very strange lanky look.
His waste is too narrow and his overall physique doesn't convey power to me.
It looks like a young physique - there is a lack of density.
I'm not a fan of it and never got the hype.
Maybe people liked it because he was taller than 5'9"

Where is Badell now? We still here that Dexter is relevant, and Badell is not even on anyone's radar today.

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2014, 05:40:01 AM »
Lunch Trey Brewer
Big down hill Dan
Peter Putnum
Palumbo
Kamali
Chris Cook

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2014, 05:40:36 AM »
"His waste is too narrow" Haha, OMFG ::)

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2014, 05:41:30 AM »
Lunch Trey Brewer
Big down hill Dan
Peter Putnum
Palumbo
Kamali
Chris Cook

Agree mostly,
However Palumbo can't be overrated because I'm pretty sure he never earned pro status in the first place.
He was never rated.

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2014, 05:44:25 AM »
"His waste is too narrow" Haha, OMFG ::)

Yes, bodybuilding is subjective,
And personally I don't find the hyper narrow physiques of some of the 'athletes' like Darrem Charles to be Appealing. In my opinion there is such thing as a waist that is too narrow - and the point at which it is too narrow is when the overall body looks structurally weak.

Wolf falls into this category IMO -
And judging by the number of Sandows won by Coleman -
The judges share my aesthetic criteria to some degree.

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2014, 05:46:45 AM »
I think Dorian Yates was, he was top notch in some Olympia wins, but some years he looked horrendous with torn arms and other competitors delivered top notch physiques yet got robbed, to name a few El Sonbaty, Ray, Levrone, Wheeler.
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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2014, 06:05:34 AM »
Yes, bodybuilding is subjective,
And personally I don't find the hyper narrow physiques of some of the 'athletes' like Darrem Charles to be Appealing. In my opinion there is such thing as a waist that is too narrow - and the point at which it is too narrow is when the overall body looks structurally weak.

Wolf falls into this category IMO -
And judging by the number of Sandows won by Coleman -
The judges share my aesthetic criteria to some degree.

You're right, bodybuilding is a subjective sport, which makes it an interesting topic to discuss.
I was just surprised by your vision about waists being too small, since I hear more people complain about wide waists.
If I were Dennis, then I would feel honored about your opinion  :D (no pun)

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2014, 06:09:46 AM »
"His waste is too narrow" Haha, OMFG ::)
I could see the argumement for this guy, but not Dennis Wolf

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2014, 06:52:04 AM »
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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2014, 06:55:48 AM »
I could see the argumement for this guy, but not Dennis Wolf


who is this??

simply insane

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2014, 06:59:22 AM »
the picture has his name on it ::)

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lol, what an idiot

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2014, 07:43:34 AM »
That's the problem with bodybuilding - there is no established criteria of what makes a winning physique.
To my knowledge the IFBB hasn't established standards anyway - though I could be wrong.

If the waist is blocky to the point of being ugly and un-bodybuilder like - it should be penalized. If it is narrow to the point that it doesn't project power and stability it should also be penalized IMO.

Due to the lack of criteria, most Bodybuilders just get bigger and bigger until they go full on Palumbo, compete a few more years until their receptors stop responding, then retire penniless.

It has no appeal anymore except to a fringe.

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2014, 08:12:09 AM »
That's the problem with bodybuilding - there is no established criteria of what makes a winning physique.
To my knowledge the IFBB hasn't established standards anyway - though I could be wrong.

If the waist is blocky to the point of being ugly and un-bodybuilder like - it should be penalized. If it is narrow to the point that it doesn't project power and stability it should also be penalized IMO.

Due to the lack of criteria, most Bodybuilders just get bigger and bigger until they go full on Palumbo, compete a few more years until their receptors stop responding, then retire penniless.

It has no appeal anymore except to a fringe.
Nobody penalizes a narrow waist except for guys with shitty genetics like YOU probably have.
Dumb ass ::)

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2014, 08:29:47 AM »
Nobody penalizes a narrow waist except for guys with shitty genetics like YOU probably have.
Dumb ass ::)

I said it was my opinion fuck face, by virtue of it being my opinion - your claim that 'nobody penalizes a small waist" is already proven wrong. So who is the dumbass, dumbass?

A man with a moderate waist has more core strength and power. A man with a tiny twink waist was never meant to hold a tremendous amount of muscle and thus isn't a good example of an ideal bodybuilder in my opinion. A man with a very large waist cannot be aesthetic either. These are my opinions.



This is what I would call ideal proportions (except biceps)

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2014, 09:08:05 AM »
the picture has his name on it ::)

brian buchanan

ah. missed it.

I was keeping my eyes above his waist.

weird.

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2014, 09:28:16 AM »
I said it was my opinion fuck face, by virtue of it being my opinion - your claim that 'nobody penalizes a small waist" is already proven wrong. So who is the dumbass, dumbass?

A man with a moderate waist has more core strength and power. A man with a tiny twink waist was never meant to hold a tremendous amount of muscle and thus isn't a good example of an ideal bodybuilder in my opinion. A man with a very large waist cannot be aesthetic either. These are my opinions.



This is what I would call ideal proportions (except biceps)
he had great fdb for having'avg arms'as some say,there are guys with great arms and not so good fdb due to lack of width/thickness lats /flare/and or waist is shitty

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2014, 09:35:50 AM »
I agree: A waist can be too narrow and slim.

A truly strong man must display a reasonably thick waist. A bodybuilder should not have a distended gut, but if it's a wasp waist, it makes the competitor look weak and frail, as said.

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #42 on: February 27, 2014, 09:36:40 AM »
I agree: A waist can be too narrow and slim.

A truly strong man must display a reasonably thick waist. A bodybuilder should not have a distended gut, but if it's a wasp waist, it makes the competitor look weak and frail, as said.
IFBB judge outed.

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #43 on: February 27, 2014, 10:22:39 AM »
Federov, Brewer, and Kamali all come to mind immediately.

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #44 on: February 27, 2014, 12:23:14 PM »
That's the problem with bodybuilding - there is no established criteria of what makes a winning physique.
To my knowledge the IFBB hasn't established standards anyway - though I could be wrong.

If the waist is blocky to the point of being ugly and un-bodybuilder like - it should be penalized. If it is narrow to the point that it doesn't project power and stability it should also be penalized IMO.

Due to the lack of criteria, most Bodybuilders just get bigger and bigger until they go full on Palumbo, compete a few more years until their receptors stop responding, then retire penniless.

It has no appeal anymore except to a fringe.
They have a rule book...that none of us have seen.
Apparently it's written on magical paper, because the rules constantly change.

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #45 on: February 27, 2014, 12:24:13 PM »
They have a rule book...that none of us have seen.
Apparently it's written on magical paper, because the rules constantly change.

I lol'd at magical paper.

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #46 on: February 27, 2014, 01:07:52 PM »
Greg Kovacs by far.

Muscle Tech marketing build around him.

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #47 on: February 27, 2014, 01:13:53 PM »
Lunch Trey Brewer
Big down hill Dan
Peter Putnum
Palumbo
Kamali
Chris Cook
Good list,but Palumbo did pretty good as an amatuer before he lost the ball at the goal line.

I think he would have won his pro card if the competition at the time wasn`t as tough as it was.

Sadly enough,once "Palumboism" set in,he was done.

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #48 on: February 27, 2014, 01:28:09 PM »
Matt Duvall.

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Re: Who was the most overhyped bodybuilder?
« Reply #49 on: February 27, 2014, 01:32:18 PM »
Richard jones, kovacs, lunch trey, khan....these guys had/have received so much hype but done next to nothing on the stage.