he was a great bodybuilder, he just wasn't as good as those guys
his streak of top 5 O finishes is overrated too considering that was typically the only show he did most years
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dont agree with ypu much, but I partially agree here. Everyone alwaus goes on about how aesthetic ray was, when really, he was just a mini mass monster, quads to big, narrow lats,... he had a laundry list of structural issues.