He takes steroids so not even natural. I don't know if he injects steroids but he uses those Blackstone labs Oral designer steroids. jason is 42 years old. He is fucking old! he is old enough to do the masters if he was a pro or he could do like a local masters show in his state. I think the guy has some serious issues. I know he is techinically "SPECIAL" (meaning he took the small bus to school). He would probably get kicked out of my gym and not by the manager just the other members would beat his ass out the door for being so annoying and flexing like he really has something great to show off. C'mon for 42 and all the time this guy spends and all the help he has gotten from PJ and the free supplements from PJ this guy hasn't gone very far in the last 3 years. He has no abs!