Author Topic: Where are the anti-gun nuts now? 28 killed at a Train station. 113 wounded.  (Read 23536 times)

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Then the terrorists also would have had guns, and even more people would have been killed.  It is hard for a gun nutter to understand basic maths isn't it?  Anyway you cut this, guns would have made the situation far worse.

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Then the terrorists also would have had guns, and even more people would have been killed.  It is hard for a gun nutter to understand basic maths isn't it?  Anyway you cut this, guns would have made the situation far worse.

Exactly.  Every gun produced statistically results in 11 deaths and 7 rapes with (to a first order approximation) no cowboy hats being shot off someone's head as a show of marksmanship.  

Lucky for us math science guys we know that dropping higher order terms in our expansion is acceptable in all cases but those with extremely low energy or temperature.  
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I'm very uncomfortable with a society where only the government is armed.  :-X

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Exactly.  Every gun produced statistically results in 11 deaths and 7 rapes with (to a first order approximation) no cowboy hats being shot off someone's head as a show of marksmanship.  

Lucky for us math science guys we know that dropping higher order terms in our expansion is acceptable in all cases but those with extremely low energy or temperature.  
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I'm very uncomfortable with a society where only the government is armed.  :-X

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28 is still less than the 32 that Korean guy killed and 20 wounded at Virginia tech
and he was one guy with a .22, not a mob
guns ftw


Ban Koreans.

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Ban Koreans.
Seriously, the common denominator I'm seeing here is Asians.

Clearly, we need to ban Asians.

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Hitler was a good man.
Would love to meet his family and share a bitburger while swapping war stories.

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Would love to meet his family and share a bitburger while swapping war stories.

I'd prefer Aventinus at a table in the Hofbrauhaus, whilst listening to marching brass bands. A man can dream, right?

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Hitler was a good man.
He made sure not to ban guns for his stormtroopers or private bodyguards, just the millions of people he shoved into backbreaking public road projects, his shitty fail army, or his slave camps. Guy was a total gun-loving bitch.

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The terrorists can get guns anyway you buffoon... They are CRIMINALS... CRIMINALS GET GUNS IF THEY WANT THEM.

Apparently you don't understand the basic fundamentals of people.

You're just plain nutters... you don't need a gun.

It is near impossible to get guns in China, even for Islamic fundamentalists.  It may be hard as an American to imagine, but China is nothing like America, it has a fascist government that runs the place with an Iron Fist.  This ridiculous belief that criminals can get guns whenever they want is absurd, that may be the case in America, but that isn't the case in Countries with strict gun controls.  Here in Australia, it is very difficult to obtain a gun for criminal purposes.  You need to stop thinking the whole world is as fucked up a place as the USA.  The very reason it is easy for criminals to obtain guns in America is because you have ridiculously lax gun laws and an already large amount of guns in circulation, it's that simple.  When you make it easy for a citizen to get a gun, you also make it easy for criminals.    

The only people who benefit from a large percentage of the population owning guns are gun manufacturers. 
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It is near impossible to get guns in China, even for Islamic fundamentalists.  It may be hard as an American to imagine, but China is nothing like America, it has a fascist government that runs the place with an Iron Fist.  This ridiculous belief that criminals can get guns whenever they want is absurd, that may be the case in America, but that isn't the case in Countries with strict gun controls.  Here in Australia, it is very difficult to obtain a gun for criminal purposes.  You need to stop thinking the whole world is as fucked up a place as the USA.  The evry reason it is easy for criminals to obtain guns in America is because you have ridiculously lax gun laws, it's that simple.  When you make it easy for a citizen to get a gun, you also make it easy for criminals.
Ask any person in the street in America, especially in the Midwest and South (which account for the bulk of the country's population), and they'll tell you having the occasional mass shooting and sporadic gunshots go off in their neighborhood is a small price to pay for the right to bear arms. Americans are happy with the laws of their country and all attempts to change them have come to nothing, and will continue to do so. It's part of the constitution, unlike in those other countries you mentioned, where laws regulating them were passed long after the nation was formed. Moreover, you can't compare a country the size of Australia with one that has over 300 million people. In that kind of environment, guns are mandatory for home security at a minimum.

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Ask any person in the street in America, especially in the Midwest and South (which account for the bulk of the country's population), and they'll tell you having the occasional mass shooting and sporadic gunshots go off in their neighborhood is a small price to pay for the right to bear arms. Americans are happy with the laws of their country and all attempts to change them have come to nothing, and will continue to do so. It's part of the constitution, unlike in those other countries you mentioned, where laws regulating them were passed long after the nation was formed. Moreover, you can't compare a country the size of Australia with one that has over 300 million people. In that kind of environment, guns are mandatory for home security at a minimum.
China and India both have a population three times that at over a billion each.  What does the population have to do with home security?  America could have a thousand people, it would still be a dangerous place, that's because the American population is made up of dangerously deluded individuals where even the average persons mental health would be considered borderline deranged in any other civilised country.
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China and India both have a population three times that at over a billion each.  What does the population have to do with home security?  America could have a thousand people, it would still be a dangerous place, that's because the American population is made up of dangerously deluded individuals where even the average persons mental health would be considered borderline deranged in any other civilised country.
Exactly why we're going to keep our guns.

You're not American, your ideals wouldn't work here, we don't want them, kthnxbye.

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China and India both have a population three times that at over a billion each.  What does the population have to do with home security?  America could have a thousand people, it would still be a dangerous place, that's because the American population is made up of dangerously deluded individuals where even the average persons mental health would be considered borderline deranged in any other civilised country.
India has been in the news for all the gang rapes that're happening in the last year. And if you read their recent history, like in 1984, you'd see how thousands of Sikhs were killed and tortured when Hindus rose up against them in riots over the Gandhi assassination after the Blue Star incident.

You don't know shit about China because their media is tightly controlled and so is their Internet. You wouldn't last a day in their jails.

America's a much safer place - because people are armed.

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Exactly why we're going to keep our guns.

You're not American, your ideals wouldn't work here, we don't want them, kthnxbye.
Exactly. Every time people who aren't living in America or understand its values try to analyze it, they come off sounding completely out of touch with reality.

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Ban Train Stations

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I'm very uncomfortable with a society where only the government is armed.  :-X
See Connecticut for the first step.......looks bad.
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Guess the religion.
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Anti gun people ignore FACTS.

FACT: everywhere gun restrictions are in place, violent crime RISES. Period. Be it city, state, or country. Because you only disarm law abiding citizens... criminals DONT FUCKING PAY ATTENTION TO LAWS and keep their guns.... THEY ARE CRIMINALS.

It is indisputable FACT, but they choose to ignore it because liberalism is a serious mental disorder in which your brain cannot process anything except the fictitious little unicorn and bunny world they fabricate in their heads.
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Anti gun people ignore FACTS.

FACT: everywhere gun restrictions are in place, violent crime RISES. Period. Be it city, state, or country. Because you only disarm law abiding citizens... criminals DONT FUCKING PAY ATTENTION TO LAWS and keep their guns.... THEY ARE CRIMINALS.

It is indisputable FACT, but they choose to ignore it because liberalism is a serious mental disorder in which your brain cannot process anything except the fictitious little unicorn and bunny world they fabricate in their heads.
Not to mention open gun sales aren't the cause of most gun-crimes in the U.S. or anywhere, for that matter. For every legally-purchased gun used to commit a crime, there's 50 that were purchased illegally on the street.

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28 is still less than the 32 that Korean guy killed and 20 wounded at Virginia tech
and he was one guy with a .22, not a mob
guns ftw


wow it seems that the gun nuts think that if guns werent illegal, the carnage wouldve been worse.

well they arent illegal in the US, and people are shooting each other left right and centre.

and massacres happen frequently.

and in countries where there are strict gun control, massacres and shootings are quite rare.

what part of logic am i missing?

(and i am talking comparative rates, not absolute, so its a per person basis)..

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Not to mention open gun sales aren't the cause of most gun-crimes in the U.S. or anywhere, for that matter. For every legally-purchased gun used to commit a crime, there's 50 that were purchased illegally on the street.

The definition of criminal is to break the LAW. A law would say give up your guns. What do criminals do again? IGNORE THE FUCKING LAW. I don't get why this is so hard for the anti gun fools. So you take the guns away from those who are most unlikely to use them for crime... but let the criminals keep theirs. Fucking brilliant.

If there was a SINGLE legal gun carrier in this crowd... no where near this many people would have died... be it law enforcement or civilian. Same with Virginia or Fort Hood etc. The problem was the lack of guns IN THE NON CRIMINALS HANDS.
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