Where are the anti-gun nuts now? 28 killed at a Train station. 113 wounded.

[Roger Bacon]

It's hard to imagine the 1st world country with the most gun ownership and also the most homicides of all Western Countries equating gun ownership with less violence.  If your argument were true, America would be the least likely of all 1st world countries to get shot in, not the most likely as it stands now.

I don't know one person that's ever been shot or even shot at or seen anyone get shot.

It's hardly an issue here

[Icelord]

I don't know one person that's ever been shot or even shot at or seen anyone get shot.

It's hardly an issue here

Everyone who makes the claim he did does not also live in the US or know anyone who does and can verify their assertion.

[Thick Nick]

It's hard to imagine the 1st world country with the most gun ownership and also the most homicides of all Western Countries equating gun ownership with less violence.  If your argument were true, America would be the least likely of all 1st world countries to get shot in, not the most likely as it stands now.

You made every word of this up. Look up the real numbers... Of your own country even. You are dumb and I don't reply to you anymore because of crap ass posts like this. Because you can't imagine the facts don't fit your fantasy... It must be wrong. Fucking priceless.

Once gun laws are put in place... Violent crime rises above the levels pre new gun laws. Everywhere it ever takes place. I didn't say look at one sample of crime today you dumbass.

Look at violent crime before your country instituted stricter gun laws THEN look at the numbers now. Then get back to us.

[Icelord]

You made every word of this up. Look up the real numbers... Of your own country even. You are dumb and I don't reply to you anymore because of crap ass posts like this. Because you can't imagine the facts don't fit your fantasy... It must be wrong. Fucking priceless.

Once gun laws are put in place... Violent crime rises above the levels pre new gun laws. Everywhere it ever takes place. I didn't say look at one sample of crime today you dumbass.

Look at violent crime before your country instituted stricter gun laws THEN look at the numbers now. Then get back to us.

4 pages in, not a single link to a study written by a reliable source or a statistical chart, nothing
typical liberal smoke & mirrors

[chaos]

It's hard to imagine the 1st world country with the most gun ownership and also the most homicides of all Western Countries equating gun ownership with less violence.  If your argument were true, America would be the least likely of all 1st world countries to get shot in, not the most likely as it stands now.

What do you consider Western Countries?

[Radical Plato]

derrrppp... youre setting up the question so that only your conclusion can be the answer.

you should be looking at the chance to be wounfed in a violent crime,  not chance to be 'shot'. Derp.

in a country with guns youre mire likelu to be shot!!

No shit sherlock.

besides, id rather be shot than stabbed, 100x over

Homicide is the MOST violent of all crimes, nobody cares about getting a black eye from being punched.  The only violence that truly matters is that which kills you, and you are more likely to be killed in America than any other first world country, and why because of mass gun ownership.

[Icelord]

Homicide is the MOST violent of all crimes, nobody cares about getting a black eye from being punched.  The only violence that truly matters is that which kills you, and you are more likely to be killed in America than any other first world country.

true
it probably is safer in Lichtenstein
now I'm convinced, guns are the reason

[Radical Plato]

You made every word of this up. Look up the real numbers... Of your own country even. You are dumb and I don't reply to you anymore because of crap ass posts like this. Because you can't imagine the facts don't fit your fantasy... It must be wrong. Fucking priceless.

Once gun laws are put in place... Violent crime rises above the levels pre new gun laws. Everywhere it ever takes place. I didn't say look at one sample of crime today you dumbass.

Look at violent crime before your country instituted stricter gun laws THEN look at the numbers now. Then get back to us.

Our violent crime didn't go up, that's just propaganda made up by the NRA, as a matter of fact, our Government had to warn the NRA to stop misrepresenting our crime statistics to fit their agenda.  The NRA's manipulation of our crime DATA is simply fabricated.  Yet another LIE told by a bunch of Nutters.  The problem is, Gun Nutters are prepared to believe anything that suits there cause, regardless of if it is 100% bullshit.  We didn't even have much gun ownership prior to the stricter laws.

[Icelord]

when an anti-gun person ends up cornered by three gangbangers who are pointing guns at him inside his car
he'll probably wish he had a gun in the center console or glove compartment at that time

[Thick Nick]

Our violent crime didn't go up, that's just propaganda made up by the NRA, as a matter of fact, our Government had to warn the NRA to stop misrepresenting our crime statistics to fit their agenda.  The NRA's manipulation of our crime DATA is simply fabricated.  Yet another LIE told by a bunch of Nutters.  The problem is, Gun Nutters are prepared to believe anything that suits there cause, regardless of if it is 100% bullshit.

Lol. This is so priceless.

1. Find date new gun laws implemented.
2. Look at violent crime rates prior to that date.
3. Look at violent crime rates after that date.
4. Compare the numbers.
5. When your defective liberal mind can't process the information, post what you just posted.
6. Get WTFPWNED on Getbig forever.

Thank you for making every post I made in this thread better in a single post. Back to ignoring you.

[Roger Bacon]

Australians seem to have a good healthy independent streak like Americans. Truly sad that they caved in and gave up their guns.  

[Shockwave]

Homicide is the MOST violent of all crimes, nobody cares about getting a black eye from being punched.  The only violence that truly matters is that which kills you, and you are more likely to be killed in America than any other first world country, and why because of mass gun ownership.

lol @ you setting the goalposts around yourself.

only violent crime that matters is murder (mega lol)

impressive leaps of logic you got there

[Icelord]

Australians seem to have a good healthy independent streak like Americans. Sad that they gave up their guns. 

They didn't give them up willingly. Some guy went on a shooting spree at a beach in 1996 and their liberal political leaders chose to unilaterally seize firearms from EVERYONE in the country. Same thing the UK did after some guy shot up a kindergarten the same year.

And guess what, violent crime went up in both countries.

[Icelord]

lol @ you setting the goalposts around yourself.

only violent crime that matters is murder (mega lol)

impressive leaps of logic you got there

Conveniently ignoring most violent crime isn't homicide, it's assault/robbery.

[Roger Bacon]

They didn't give them up willingly. Some guy went on a shooting spree at a beach in 1996 and their liberal political leaders chose to unilaterally seize firearms from EVERYONE in the country. Same thing the UK did after some guy shot up a kindergarten the same year.

And guess what, violent crime went up in both countries.

I know, and I remember reading that the investigation of the shooting was very shady like Sandy Hook.

I knew you were a good guy Icelord!  

[tu_holmes]

clearly missing everyones humor... but the bottom line is this

Were not giving uo our guns.. our country was founded on owning firearms. Its in our culture down to our very bones. We want to have the ability to fight back against whoever may come at us, be it other countries, invaders, our own government, or the evil squirrel next door, no matter how small the likelihood is.

 Were not coming to other countries telling them to legalize guns.  .. were not bringing them over in our suitcases... so just let us be and tell the UN to fuck off and stop trying to force their idealistic european utopia bullshit on us.

You guys dont want them, dont have them. But dont tell us how we have to roll. Countries know an invasion of the US would never work because of our cultural identity and our love of firearms.. and frankly, thats all the justification needed

I laugh at countries who think we care what they think of our gun laws.

As you said, when someone talks about invading the US, they always stop at the 300 Million armed citizens part... That usually fucks them up big time.

[Radical Plato]

Lol. This is so priceless.

1. Find date new gun laws implemented.
2. Look at violent crime rates prior to that date.
3. Look at violent crime rates after that date.
4. Compare the numbers.
5. When your defective liberal mind can't process the information, post what you just posted.
6. Get WTFPWNED on Getbig forever.

Thank you for making every post I made in this thread better in a single post. Back to ignoring you.

I have done this a thousand times before on getbig, our homicide/suicide/violent crime went down.  There isn't a source other than that of Gun Nutter sites that say otherwise.  It is widely agreed upon by most Australians that our gun laws are an outstanding success.  Again, it is only gun nutters who feel terribly insecure if they can't own a gun who dispute this.

[Icelord]

I have done this a thousand times before on getbig, our homicide/suicide/violent crime went down.  There isn't a source other than that of Gun Nutter sites that say otherwise.  It is widely agreed upon by most Australians that our gun laws are an outstanding success.  Again, it is only gun nutters who feel terribly insecure if they can't own a gun who dispute this.

Taking everyone's guns away because one guy used them for a mass shooting is socialist and totalitarian in the extreme. It's what the Soviets did with property. I would never live in a country that does that to its own people. Completely takes away their right to choose and decides what's best for them. FUCK that.

[Wolfox]

Hey E Kul tell us more about your pitbull tattoo.

[Radical Plato]

They didn't give them up willingly. Some guy went on a shooting spree at a beach in 1996 and their liberal political leaders chose to unilaterally seize firearms from EVERYONE in the country. Same thing the UK did after some guy shot up a kindergarten the same year.

And guess what, violent crime went up in both countries.

Why would you post twenty year old new stories of fringe groups spouting nonsense and lies.  These people are the gun nutters of the country and considered borderline lunatics by the average Australian, they aren't representative of the mainstream, but of right wing fringe groups.

[Icelord]

Why would you post twenty year old new stories of fringe groups spouting nonsense and lies.  These people are the gun nutters of the country and considered borderline lunatics by the average Australian, they aren't representative of the mainstream, but of right wing fringe groups.

Everything I posted is true. That's how it happened, mate.

[Thick Nick]

I have done this a thousand times before on getbig, our homicide/suicide/violent crime went down.  There isn't a source other than that of Gun Nutter sites that say otherwise.  It is widely agreed upon by most Australians that our gun laws are an outstanding success.  Again, it is only gun nutters who feel terribly insecure if they can't own a gun who dispute this.

Sure you have lol. The getting owned part lol.

[tu_holmes]

Why would you post twenty year old new stories of fringe groups spouting nonsense and lies.  These people are the gun nutters of the country and considered borderline lunatics by the average Australian, they aren't representative of the mainstream, but of right wing fringe groups.

Funny... When I was in Australia, I had many people talk to me about how great the US was for having all of those guns... It certainly sounds to my that you sound like the nutter to the Average Australian... but that's just my own personal opinion of what I heard with my own two ears.

[Icelord]

Good job reposting this story directly below this thread, lol
maybe upping the body count was intended to make guns sound worse or something
even though it was a stabbing
lol

[Radical Plato]

Hey E Kul tell us more about your pitbull tattoo.

I always know I have owned hearts and minds when a pitbull reference comes along, I don't know why you bother, I deal with the pitbull issue on a daily basis. I deal with those Nutters as well, they have just as much in common with gun nutters.  Dealing with irrational, unreasonable and violent people isn't new to me, they don't intimidate nor scare me.  If anything, I feel deeply sorry for them that they live their lives in abject fear and misery.