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Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« on: March 04, 2014, 10:57:31 AM »
to present a financial aid package to the interim government, which needs as much as $15 billion in the coming years to stay afloat.

What fuckin right do they have to send money to anyone without approval from Congress or the electorate, American freedom is dead.....just hammer in the last nail and get it over with.

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2014, 11:31:48 AM »
to present a financial aid package to the interim government, which needs as much as $15 billion in the coming years to stay afloat.

What fuckin right do they have to send money to anyone without approval from Congress or the electorate, American freedom is dead.....just hammer in the last nail and get it over with.

Would love to be that nail.  Seriously though, let the people decide.  Let there be a plebiscite, and if half want to go into Russia, let them.

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2014, 11:33:53 AM »
Marcel Bergsma needs to guest pose in Ukraine to calm people down.

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2014, 01:10:34 PM »
Last I heard, US was ready to offer 1 billion.... that's like a fart in desert for a country of 40 million and empty accounts.

U.S. Promises $1 Billion for Ukraine

http://world.time.com/2014/03/04/ukraine-united-states-aid-john-kerry/



Their standing debt to Gazprom alone at the moment is 1,55 billion dollars. Gazprom demands it to be paid now.

Now, Gazprom is considering raising prices on March 1 unless Ukraine pays $1.55 billion for owed fuel costs.


http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-wants-ukraine-to-pay-fuel-debt-2014-3

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2014, 01:12:47 PM »
Marcel Bergsma needs to guest pose in Ukraine to calm people down.
Yes,and I`d love to meet him one day also.

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2014, 01:16:16 PM »
to present a financial aid package to the interim government, which needs as much as $15 billion in the coming years to stay afloat.

What fuckin right do they have to send money to anyone without approval from Congress or the electorate, American freedom is dead.....just hammer in the last nail and get it over with.

I don't understand why this doesn't ever come up for discussion.  We aren't in good financial shape but we are still hemorrhaging money bribing our enemies and supporting our allies.  Billions of dollars.  What the fuck?  

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2014, 01:17:39 PM »
I guess I can finally relax now that Kerry is on the scene.

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2014, 01:20:02 PM »
What fuckin right do they have to send money to anyone without approval from Congress or the electorate

I think everyone is sick and tired of the US getting involved in the entire world's affairs.

Our economy is struggling, yet instead of infusing some of those billions of dollars into our own economy, we are giving it away.

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2014, 01:21:58 PM »
Last I heard, US was ready to offer 1 billion.... that's like a fart in desert for a country of 40 million and empty accounts.

U.S. Promises $1 Billion for Ukraine

http://world.time.com/2014/03/04/ukraine-united-states-aid-john-kerry/



Their standing debt to Gazprom alone at the moment is 1,55 billion dollars. Gazprom demands it to be paid now.

Now, Gazprom is considering raising prices on March 1 unless Ukraine pays $1.55 billion for owed fuel costs.


http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-wants-ukraine-to-pay-fuel-debt-2014-3


I wonder what would happen if Ukraine shut down/tampered with the pipelines running through their country?

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2014, 01:26:00 PM »
I wonder what would happen if Ukraine shut down/tampered with the pipelines running through their country?

Europe would be without gas and pissed. Although the new lines like Nord stream go directly to places like Germany.
That's why Ukraine doesn't have possibility to do that. Plus Ukraine most likely gets some sort of payment for being transit country and seeing how they can't afford to lose a single ruble, dollar or euro, it's in their interests to keep it flowing.

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2014, 01:28:44 PM »
Why can't the USA promise money to it's own citizens?

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2014, 02:34:00 PM »
Mr. Kerry in Kiev today.
He has a wig, right? Not saying it'a a bad thing. I will buy one if I loose my hair (no gay).



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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2014, 02:44:41 PM »
Mr. Kerry in Kiev today.
He has a wig, right? Not saying it'a a bad thing. I will buy one if I loose my hair (no gay).



Alot of old tires out there.

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2014, 02:49:10 PM »
Alot of old tires out there.

Yes, Those are summer tires. They are waiting for spring. Many Ukrainians don't have garages where they could store them.

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2014, 03:00:39 PM »
Why can't the USA promise money to it's own citizens?
We have to work for it as Marty Champion says.

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2014, 03:02:12 PM »
We have to work for it as Marty Champion says.

Some of us do to pay for the others who don't.

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2014, 03:03:56 PM »
Why can't the USA promise money to it's own citizens?
Well they do that in the form of social services...go say your back hurts and you too can get SSD...
But, doing it in the form of aid, hahaha, that's free money, and you know you can't stop the hand outs there...it's like feeding bears.

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2014, 03:04:37 PM »
Kerry has the longest fucking face I've ever seen, he has more of a horse face than Sara Jessica Parker.  He looks like that dude Rocky on the movie mask.

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2014, 03:24:06 PM »
I think everyone is sick and tired of the US getting involved in the entire world's affairs.

Our economy is struggling, yet instead of infusing some of those billions of dollars into our own economy, we are giving it away.

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This is why most of the World hates us.

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2014, 06:40:57 PM »
I think everyone is sick and tired of the US getting involved in the entire world's affairs.

Our economy is struggling, yet instead of infusing some of those billions of dollars into our own economy, we are giving it away.

"1"

Yup.  Home is where the heart is.  It's where our coffers should be too.  The world "hates" us?  Stop feeding them.  Stop protecting them.  Stop kowtowing to foreign leaders and interests.

Secretary of State Herman Munster is an animated dermoid.   

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2014, 06:52:25 PM »
Yeah, I hear that Herman Munster looking mofo wants to give away the US tax payers money...  >:(

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2014, 11:48:57 PM »
to present a financial aid package to the interim government, which needs as much as $15 billion in the coming years to stay afloat.

What fuckin right do they have to send money to anyone without approval from Congress or the electorate, American freedom is dead.....just hammer in the last nail and get it over with.

Not only that - an unelected government to boot!

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2014, 02:55:47 AM »

Ukrainian 'government',
If I was a banker, I wouldn't give them a free pencil...

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2014, 03:16:32 AM »
Yup.  Home is where the heart is.  It's where our coffers should be too.  The world "hates" us?  Stop feeding them.  Stop protecting them.  Stop kowtowing to foreign leaders and interests.

  

More like, stop invading, bombing and droning them. 

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Re: Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev, Ukraine
« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2014, 05:30:40 PM »
More like, stop invading, bombing and droning them. 

Riiiiight.  Not since WWII have we been allowed to fight a war.  Probably the only reason we could really carpet bomb the Germans is that liberals hate Caucasians.  They still do.

Except themselves of course.

So yes, stop feeding the world.  Stop saving the world.  Stop helping the world.   Hate 'em back.