What's the point of working your ass off your whole life?

[SF1900]

I know.. I dated a girl who works at Costco. she's about 10yrs older than me and has been working there for about 10years, and will probably never leave.

she lives at home in her parents house, pays them $300/month 'rent', relies on them to buy groceries and spends all her money on going out to eat and drink, then goes on vacations and trips to vegas every few months then she's broke.

needless to say I left her immature ass.

must be nice to be content with being somebody elses employee until you're 65yrs old.

if that was the life I wanted, I'd move to France and be a socialist.

That is odd. You can easily live on your own with a Costco salary. I mean, you will probably live with a roommate or 2, but better than living at home.

Then again, if her sole mission in life is to party, then living at home makes sense, since she saves a lot of money.

[Wolfox]

I know.. I dated a girl who works at Costco. she's about 10yrs older than me and has been working there for about 10years, and will probably never leave.

she lives at home in her parents house, pays them $300/month 'rent', relies on them to buy groceries and spends all her money on going out to eat and drink, then goes on vacations and trips to vegas every few months then she's broke.

needless to say I left her immature ass.

must be nice to be content with being somebody elses employee until you're 65yrs old.

if that was the life I wanted, I'd move to France and be a socialist.

She will probably inherit her parents house and live comfortably for the rest of her life.

[Wolfox]

I run a few businesses... one of which is a personal trainer & nutritionist (cpt/csn).. the others I don't go into.

I'm not a baller. I like nice things and recognize the value, or lack of value in things. (would you rather pay $800 for a gold invictia? or $800 for a stainless steel Oris?-type of stuff)

you just need to figure out what's important and what's not, and evaluate your priorties... not "you", but people in general.

most people think in terms of 'us and them'... what seperates 'you' from the 'rich' people? not a whole lot, once you figure it out. most people are afraid to take risks... they never sit down and figure out HOW they could afford the car/house/food/watch/tv/ect... they always wanted, instead they sit and daydream about how nice it'd be if they won the lottery.

get an idea and follow it through to the end. if it works, great, do it again... if it doesn't work, great, try something else.

there's a watch that has min/hour hands that say "remember, you will die"... so why do people wait and wait and wait to do what they could be doing today to live how they want to live? i'll never understand it.

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[kofo]

The work ants of the society are doing the work for rich and poor.

Taxes paid by work ants beeing used to pay the poor. The poor hate working, they like drifting around doing nothing and feel free.

The elite, the corporate guys and the politician hate traditional work they feel above work hours and morals. Sitting by the the desk for 8 hours straight they cant do it. They like moving around staying in 5 star hotels, chatting to people, going to meetings, "inspecting" franchises and divisions eating free fancy lunches. They dont think of it as work, cause it aint either. They love the high life, going charity dinners.

Work ants are the glue of society. They love to work. And have a strong working moral. They dont move around much, they travel the same route to work each day, shop at the same supermarket and eat at the same restaurant. It might not be exciting and joyful, but it is a low risk, comfortable life.

[phreak]

The work ants of the society are doing the work for rich and poor.

Taxes paid by work ants beeing used to pay the poor. The poor hate working, they like drifting around doing nothing and feel free.

The elite, the corporate guys and the politician hate traditional work they feel above work hours and morals. Sitting by the the desk for 8 hours straight they cant do it. They like moving around staying in 5 star hotels, chatting to people, going to meetings, "inspecting" franchises and divisions eating free fancy lunches. They dont think of it as work, cause it aint either. They love the high life, going charity dinners.

Work ants are the glue of society. They love to work. And have a strong working moral. They dont move around much, they travel the same route to work each day, shop at the same supermarket and eat at the same restaurant. It might not be exciting and joyful, but it is a low risk, comfortable life.

I'm really glad they exist. And equally glad I'm not no longer one of them. Because fuck working 40 hours per week. Hell, I'm on another new job, learning the ropes, and in bad weeks I sometimes hit close to 40 hours now. It pisses me off, I find 24-28 hours comfortable.

[smoothasf]

What do you do to work that little?


I went to Aruba last year and those locals have it nailed.  There was a guy there with a fishing boat, couldn't have cost more than 3grand tops.  He spent the day in the beautiful Sun while us tourists paid him 20dollars a time to be pulled on one of them blow up sofa things for 15 minutes.
I asked him if he ever got bored and enjoyed the job because it seemed amazing to me, he had his two kids on the boat who would either be fishing in between rides, snorkeling or taking pictures for tourists (free).

He said I live on a beautiful island the weather is perfect, I get to spend the day with my children and I do it making others happy.  My friend I don't lie when I say this is paradise. 

[Wolfox]

I'm really glad they exist. And equally glad I'm not no longer one of them. Because fuck working 40 hours per week. Hell, I'm on another new job, learning the ropes, and in bad weeks I sometimes hit close to 40 hours now. It pisses me off, I find 24-28 hours comfortable.

What do you do now for work?

[sososue]

What do you do to work that little?


I went to Aruba last year and those locals have it nailed.  There was a guy there with a fishing boat, couldn't have cost more than 3grand tops.  He spent the day in the beautiful Sun while us tourists paid him 20dollars a time to be pulled on one of them blow up sofa things for 15 minutes.
I asked him if he ever got bored and enjoyed the job because it seemed amazing to me, he had his two kids on the boat who would either be fishing in between rides, snorkeling or taking pictures for tourists (free).

He said I live on a beautiful island the weather is perfect, I get to spend the day with my children and I do it making others happy.  My friend I don't lie when I say this is paradise. 

A fishing boat that goes fast enough to pull a dinghy?
Are you sure it isnt a speed boat?

[smoothasf]

It looked like a fishing boat to me, I'll have to dig out a picture, it was a very small boat, could have been a tall speed boat, kinda missing the message though.

[sososue]

It looked like a fishing boat to me, I'll have to dig out a picture, it was a very small boat, could have been a tall speed boat, kinda missing the message though.

Im a stickler for detail.
A fishing boat tends to dawdle along, not fast enough to really exite the average tourist on an inflatable.

[phreak]

What do you do to work that little?

Understand things, i.e. Quality Assurance. It's something I happen to be good at. Not by study, just a natural aptitude for simplifying workflows and procedures, and then selling people on the idea of doing something new. In fact I'd say the second part is harder, as you are working against ingrained procedures and a 'but we've always done it like this!'-mentality.

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My philosophy is always to work smarter, not harder. Which is why I choose not to pick up too many projects at once. I do a few very well, and within the deadline. My predecessor did dozens simultaneously, worked her ass off every long day, had an incredible depth of knowledge on virtually anything within the company -- and never finished anything. Guess which approach is more appreciated by the people that pay the salaries...

I went to Aruba last year and those locals have it nailed.  There was a guy there with a fishing boat, couldn't have cost more than 3grand tops.  He spent the day in the beautiful Sun while us tourists paid him 20dollars a time to be pulled on one of them blow up sofa things for 15 minutes.
I asked him if he ever got bored and enjoyed the job because it seemed amazing to me, he had his two kids on the boat who would either be fishing in between rides, snorkeling or taking pictures for tourists (free).

He said I live on a beautiful island the weather is perfect, I get to spend the day with my children and I do it making others happy.  My friend I don't lie when I say this is paradise.  

Definitely. I have recently seriously considered becoming a forester. I love the outdoors, I spend a lot of free time there anyway. So if I could get paid enough (not a lot, just enough) then I'd seriously consider it. The trappings of wealth really hold no attraction for me. Funny thing: almost everyone, including in this topic, talks about bigger houses like it is a logical result of earning more. But my current house is smaller than my first apartment, and my next house will most likely be smaller still. I can only be in one place at any given moment, so why buy a house where I need GPS to find the bathroom? Give me one practical and nice combined living room/kitchen over a palace any day.



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Not saying hard work will kill anyone. Yes, I worked 60 hours per week packing boxes, loading and unloading trailers, moving washing machines and fridges, those jobs. But when you have other skills besides 'being strong', why not use them effectively? Now I make three times what I did then, and in half the hours.

[ESFitness]

whole lotta socialists here.

I'm not surprised.

[Tapeworm]

why buy a house where I need GPS to find the bathroom? Give me one practical and nice combined living room/kitchen over a palace any day.

Pretty much.  I rent a 4 bed 2 bath which would be empty if not for a rack in one room and a multi in another.  Meanwhile the 450sqf garage is jam packed to the ceiling with tools and materials.

Next one will be something like 800sqf of living space and 4000+sqf of workshop.  What do you do in living space besides eat, sleep, and put your feet up?

I always figured big houses are for people with children who basically want to escape from their children.

[calfzilla]

This is why I find those tiny houses fascinating.

[kofo]

whole lotta socialists here.

I'm not surprised.

Rule no 1: If you dont understand or cant argue, play socialist card.

[phreak]

Rule no 1: If you dont understand or cant argue, play socialist card.

Are you saying that someone who deals drugs because he cannot get a real job maybe isn't one to comment?

[phreak]

Pretty much.  I rent a 4 bed 2 bath which would be empty if not for a rack in one room and a multi in another.  Meanwhile the 450sqf garage is jam packed to the ceiling with tools and materials.

Next one will be something like 800sqf of living space and 4000+sqf of workshop.  What do you do in living space besides eat, sleep, and put your feet up?

I always figured big houses are for people with children who basically want to escape from their children.

Something like that, yes. Only one bedroom would suffice for me, the wife and I are not having kids anyway. But a big-ass barn is certainly in the plans. I train mostly with dumbbells now anyway, but the wife is a machine lifter.

Also, part of the barn would be an actual stable for a few cows. Going to raise (and eat!) Dexters.

[phreak]

This is why I find those tiny houses fascinating.

Me too! I spend a lot -- too much -- time in hotels. So I make it a point to try as many different ones as possible. I really like the smaller hotel rooms that border on Japanese capsule hotels. The Citizen M at Amsterdam Airport is really nice. The service is so-so, but the room is cute. When in Japan I actually have never stayed in a real capsule hotel.  Will fix that next time -- if I can get my colleagues to join me.

[dustin]

Definitely. I have recently seriously considered becoming a forester. I love the outdoors, I spend a lot of free time there anyway. So if I could get paid enough (not a lot, just enough) then I'd seriously consider it. The trappings of wealth really hold no attraction for me. Funny thing: almost everyone, including in this topic, talks about bigger houses like it is a logical result of earning more. But my current house is smaller than my first apartment, and my next house will most likely be smaller still. I can only be in one place at any given moment, so why buy a house where I need GPS to find the bathroom? Give me one practical and nice combined living room/kitchen over a palace any day.

I think the home really depends on the situation. When my wife and I moved in together, her parents bought a new home and had a really nice basement suite so we lived there and helped with the mortgage. If it was just her and I, I would love to live in a small and cozy place that size again. Maybe a bigger kitchen because we enjoy cooking so much, but it doesn't have to be too large. But now that we have a kid as well as students, I want a huge home. One with rooms and crannies that I never go in for years and can go explore in. The plan is to buy a humongous house next time around, and then when the kids move out we'll probably get something super tiny to retire in. I'd love to have a mansion with so many rooms and shit that you could go exploring in it.

I like having a home too because it gives me something to do. Even a brand new home, I'm walking around the place and seeing small tasks to do on the weekend. It's fun and you learn to become handy. But when I'm older, I'm sure the novelty will wear off and I'll just want a quiet, quaint place to relax with a nice porch and backyard. As long as the property is big, the home doesn't have to be. Somewhere with enough space to stretch but not so much that you need to spend half the time maintaining and stuff. Landscaping is relaxing so I hope to get a place really far on the edge of town where everyone can fuck off and leave us alone. I have lots of family that work in construction so my resting home will probably be something I build with my own hands. That's the plan at least. Buy a plot of land and build something where I won't have to worry about cheap contractors cutting corners on.

[phreak]

I think the home really depends on the situation. When my wife and I moved in together, her parents bought a new home and had a really nice basement suite so we lived there and helped with the mortgage. If it was just her and I, I would love to live in a small and cozy place that size again. Maybe a bigger kitchen because we enjoy cooking so much, but it doesn't have to be too large. But now that we have a kid as well as students, I want a huge home. One with rooms and crannies that I never go in for years and can go explore in. The plan is to buy a humongous house next time around, and then when the kids move out we'll probably get something super tiny to retire in. I'd love to have a mansion with so many rooms and shit that you could go exploring in it.

I like having a home too because it gives me something to do. Even a brand new home, I'm walking around the place and seeing small tasks to do on the weekend. It's fun and you learn to become handy. But when I'm older, I'm sure the novelty will wear off and I'll just want a quiet, quaint place to relax with a nice porch and backyard. As long as the property is big, the home doesn't have to be. Somewhere with enough space to stretch but not so much that you need to spend half the time maintaining and stuff. Landscaping is relaxing so I hope to get a place really far on the edge of town where everyone can fuck off and leave us alone. I have lots of family that work in construction so my resting home will probably be something I build with my own hands. That's the plan at least. Buy a plot of land and build something where I won't have to worry about cheap contractors cutting corners on.

Apart from having a huge mansion temporarily I agree with this 100%. That is what I'm workin towards: building our home with my own hands. I'll let a contractor pour the foundation, but after that it's all me. Maybe it will end up a bit out of kilter, but everything will be where I want it to be. And yes, a large piece of property surrounding it. Small plot of vegetables, an orchard, somewhere for the cows to graze, and somewhere for me to hunt ducks and geese.

[ESFitness]

Rule no 1: If you dont understand or cant argue, play socialist card.

oh I understand you're lazy and want to justify your situation.

"detest what you cannot have" is an easy cop-out.

[Tedim]

Guys huge = must be on gear

Guys rich = must have (stolen, inherited, married insert one) the money

Guys wife is gorgeous = guy must be rich (see previous)

LOL

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[loco]

No, not the case at all. Get a wife who is similarly driven, and make money.  Then, invest this money, and make more money.  I could not have what I have without me and my wife as a team.  I know it sounds gay, but it really works for us.  We do what we want in our spare time, and don't really have to think about anything before we buy it.  We pretty much do hat we want.  Before, when I was single, I didn't really have the same goals.  It was going out, drinking, chasing pussy, and doing the occasional cocaine, lol.  I know that might sound like fun, but I can honestly tell you, that having an end goal, with a partner, is something that is really cool.  You just have to find that person who compliments you and drives you to be better.

Egg-xactly, marry well and marry once, but get a vasectomy before any "accidents."  Best financial advice ever.

[dustin]

Apart from having a huge mansion temporarily I agree with this 100%. That is what I'm workin towards: building our home with my own hands. I'll let a contractor pour the foundation, but after that it's all me. Maybe it will end up a bit out of kilter, but everything will be where I want it to be. And yes, a large piece of property surrounding it. Small plot of vegetables, an orchard, somewhere for the cows to graze, and somewhere for me to hunt ducks and geese.

I've got a huge yard that I need to do something with, but I have old growth and I'm not sure if I want to fall those trees or not. It's a struggle. Last summer though I flipped a few pallets upside down and filled them with herbs. I made a few small vegetable plots, but underestimated my rambunctious dogs and they kind of tore it up. But little veggie gardens are awesome. Even the little planters pots with tomatoes we had were incredibly rewarding to pick, clean off and toss into a salad.

That's part of the reason why I want a smaller home when I'm older. Smaller home is completely fine, just needs a large kitchen and very large property. I'll be planning on spending a lot of time in the yard and look forward to it. Looking forward to this summer too. My yard is my sanctuary, weather permitting.

[no one]

What do you do to work that little?


I went to Aruba last year and those locals have it nailed.  There was a guy there with a fishing boat, couldn't have cost more than 3grand tops.  He spent the day in the beautiful Sun while us tourists paid him 20dollars a time to be pulled on one of them blow up sofa things for 15 minutes.
I asked him if he ever got bored and enjoyed the job because it seemed amazing to me, he had his two kids on the boat who would either be fishing in between rides, snorkeling or taking pictures for tourists (free).

He said I live on a beautiful island the weather is perfect, I get to spend the day with my children and I do it making others happy.  My friend I don't lie when I say this is paradise. 

why dont you go then?

im sure you could afford a 3k boat to pull tourists around in.

i always hear people say 'oh i wish i could go live in the caribbean'. lol go then! but they dont. they stayed glued to an existence they dont want out of fear of the unknown.

you need to find peace in yourself before you can truly appreciate paradise. when you have this, paradise is where ever you choose to be, not a place you need to go.