how much is to much test while dieting

[20inch calves]

Test conversion to estrogen is the enemy while dieting. I read top amatuers and pros dieting on 3 grams plus..can u get shredded on say 1-2 grams a wk

[ProudVirgin69]

Test conversion to estrogen is the enemy while dieting. I read top amatuers and pros dieting on 3 grams plus..can u get shredded on say 1-2 grams a wk

They run that much test, but they'll cut it out 1-2 weeks before they get on stage.

So yes, you can get very lean on lots of test but probably not dry

[lilhawk1]

You can get shredded on anything.  It's all in your diet.  A lot of the water retention from test is due to excess calories and sodium, not just estrogen.

[Overload]

I've been on 1500mg  of Test and around 8% bodyfat.

It's all in your diet.

[Ace]

I've been on 1500mg  of Test and around 8% bodyfat.

It's all in your diet.

so is this "dry" and "wet" compounds stuff nonsense in your opinion?

[visualizeperfection]

so is this "dry" and "wet" compounds stuff nonsense in your opinion?

no.

shitty diet can contribute to even more water and bloof, but there are drier drugs and wetter drugs.

no diet in the world can you keep you dry on drol.

[Jizmo]

water retention =/= bodyfat

[20inch calves]

Don't u think it's harder to see the changes .. the strirstions are blurred. To me its harder to tell ymthat I m losing

[sway]

no.

shitty diet can contribute to even more water and bloof, but there are drier drugs and wetter drugs.

no diet in the world can you keep you dry on drol.

You can diet and get ripped on any kind if gear, Anadrol included. It's the diet that matters. In fact nearly every top amateur here in Vegas or Cali I know uses Drol to diet on.

[galeniko]

anadrol is one which will give a bit water retention no matter what

but yeah can get lean, will just hold water, then you take the test out and become dry within 7-20days,depending on the ester.

if one uses what is way too much for their muscle mass to support,the estrogen will be too high and hinder the last bit fatloss.

if one uses proper doses, all good, just take th etest out and will be drier by the day.

when the diet is good, all steroids will be having the "cutting" effect, maybe barring dbol and drol somewhat, the main difference is a cheat meal will have more catastrophic aestetic effect after a cheat meal.
on mast you stay tight after cheat meal, on test you baloon up much more.

and well, estrogen inhibitor will help greatly with high test doses.but rather better to run low dose test with tren or the such.

[visualizeperfection]

You can diet and get ripped on any kind if gear, Anadrol included. It's the diet that matters. In fact nearly every top amateur here in Vegas or Cali I know uses Drol to diet on.

I didnt say you cant diet on it.

you best believe they cut that shit a few weeks out from any show.

All I said is you will get watery regardless of diet.

[visualizeperfection]

anadrol is one which will give a bit water retention no matter what

but yeah can get lean, will just hold water, then you take the test out and become dry within 7-20days,depending on the ester.

if one uses what is way too much for their muscle mass to support,the estrogen will be too high and hinder the last bit fatloss.

if one uses proper doses, all good, just take th etest out and will be drier by the day.

when the diet is good, all steroids will be having the "cutting" effect, maybe barring dbol and drol somewhat, the main difference is a cheat meal will have more catastrophic aestetic effect after a cheat meal.
on mast you stay tight after cheat meal, on test you baloon up much more.

and well, estrogen inhibitor will help greatly with high test doses.but rather better to run low dose test with tren or the such.

I dont like AI, never taken one for an extended period. Fucks my skin up, my mood up, my dick up, etc.

us low dose guys can go no ai as long as the food is not of toilet quality.

cardio is good to get rid of water too I think, almost as usefull as it is for fat loss

[lilhawk1]

I didnt say you cant diet on it.

you best believe they cut that shit a few weeks out from any show.

All I said is you will get watery regardless of diet.

Anadrol is used very effectively to carb up with right up till show.  Nothing will give fullness and roundness like drol.

[galeniko]

Anadrol is used very effectively to carb up with right up till show.  Nothing will give fullness and roundness like drol.

says who?

[lilhawk1]

Anyone that competes at a high level is using drol to fill out before the show.  Nothing will blow you up faster.  Any water is dealt with by the use of a diuretic.  50-200 mg per day.

[visualizeperfection]

Anyone that competes at a high level is using drol to fill out before the show.  Nothing will blow you up faster.  Any water is dealt with by the use of a diuretic.  50-200 mg per day.

Hmm never heard of that.

[Altair]

Anadrol is used very effectively to carb up with right up till show.  Nothing will give fullness and roundness like drol.

Exactly, Anadrol is fantastic for keeping you full and tight while dieting as long as your lean enough.

[visualizeperfection]

Exactly, Anadrol is fantastic for keeping you full and tight while dieting as long as your lean enough.

dieting in general? why not, sure.

but a few weeks out?

thats where im confused.

[galeniko]

Anyone that competes at a high level is using drol to fill out before the show.  Nothing will blow you up faster.  Any water is dealt with by the use of a diuretic.  50-200 mg per day.

stop the bs, frend just competed at 280lbs and he used halotestin for that.

"anyone"

[ESFitness]

drol is great precontest/pre photoshoot/pre-whatever you need to be in shape for.

'offseason' = dbol

'showtime' = drol

[ProudVirgin69]

says who?

I've heard that from a couple different people, too.  Zero personal experience with it though

[Fuzzy Nuts]

stop the bs, frend just competed at 280lbs and he used halotestin for that.

"anyone"

Agree. People I have known to compete used halo and var, maybe winny.

[mazrim]

Drol is used before a show by many.

[ESFitness]

no.

shitty diet can contribute to even more water and bloof, but there are drier drugs and wetter drugs.

no diet in the world can you keep you dry on drol.

I dunno... I don't get much water at all on drol.

I fill up "from the inside".. mucle fills up and is nice a full with little or no water subq.

dbol will have my soft and watery though.

test, deca, and dbol will have me looking almost fat at 8%.. but pull the deca and dbol and replace with tren and drol for 2 weeks and I'm looking lean and hard at 7%

[visualizeperfection]

I dunno... I don't get much water at all on drol.

I fill up "from the inside".. mucle fills up and is nice a full with little or no water subq.

dbol will have my soft and watery though.

test, deca, and dbol will have me looking almost fat at 8%.. but pull the deca and dbol and replace with tren and drol for 2 weeks and I'm looking lean and hard at 7%

even with all the chicken nuggets?