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It begins
« on: March 12, 2014, 03:38:04 AM »
Libtard democrats will try to downplay it but it is a terrible sign for them, which is great for America.

The democrat was hand picked, she defended crapcare, she defended immigration reform, she outspent the Republican opponent 3 to 1 on political ads, and she was running in a district won twice by the jokeinthewhitehouse.

The republican candidate was the worst possible selection for the GOP in that race. He is a lobbyist, he ran around with his much younger girlfriend while campaigning, he trailed by six points in the last poll, and still won in an evenly divided district.

You will now see democrats running away from crapcare and theworstpresidentofallti me.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20140312/DACFR78G0.html

CLEARWATER BEACH, Fla. (AP) - Republican David Jolly defeated Democrat Alex Sink on Tuesday in a Tampa-area House district where President Barack Obama's health care overhaul got its first test ahead of November's midterm elections and both sides spent millions auditioning national strategies.

With almost 100 percent of the vote counted, Jolly had 48.5 percent of the vote to Sink's 46.7 percent. Libertarian Lucas Overby had 4.8 percent. The election was to replace 42-year Republican Rep. CW Bill Young, who died in October of cancer, and the evenly divided district had been considered a toss-up.

The implications of the dueling messages for the midterm elections inspired both parties to call in star advocates like former President Bill Clinton and former vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan, in addition to blanketing the district with ads, calls and mailings. More than $11 million has been spent on the race, according to the Sunlight Foundation, a nonprofit group that tracks government information.


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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2014, 05:23:09 AM »
Before the libtards on this board claim that it was not an important race, I will point out that it was considered an important race as evidenced by the efforts of the DNC.

FLASHBACK:

http://www3.blogs.rollcall.com/rothenblog/the-race-democrats-cant-afford-to-lose/

It’s rare in politics that anything other than a presidential contest is viewed as a “must win” — but the special election in Florida’s 13th District falls into that category for Democrats.

A loss in the competitive March 11 contest would almost certainly be regarded by dispassionate observers as a sign that President Barack Obama could constitute an albatross around the neck of his party’s nominees in November. And that could make it more difficult for Democratic candidates, campaign committees and interest groups to raise money and energize the grass roots.

Fundamentally, the district, left vacant by the death of longtime Republican Rep. C.W. Bill Young, looks competitive but has a slight Democratic tinge. Barack Obama carried it 52 percent to 48 percent in 2008, but he had a more narrow victory four years later, when he won 50 percent to 49 percent.

But fundamentals are only a small part of the Democratic advantage in the district this year. Campaign-related factors should strongly benefit the Democrats, as well.

Alex Sink is certain to win the Democratic nomination in the Jan. 14 primary. Sink, whose late husband, Bill McBride, was the unsuccessful Democratic nominee for governor in 2002, was elected Florida’s chief financial officer in 2006.

Four years later, she was her party’s gubernatorial nominee. In that toxic political environment for Democrats, Sink lost to multimillionaire GOP businessman Rick Scott by a mere 61,550 votes out of more than 5.3 million cast – a margin of just more than 1 point. In that contest, Scott spent $73 million of his own money (including money from his wife’s revocable trust), according to the Orlando Sentinel. But Sink carried the 13th District by 2 points in that race.

Democrats have rallied behind Sink’s congressional bid so completely that 2012 Democratic nominee Jessica Ehrlich, who wanted to run in the special election, was forced out of the contest.

Money could be a significant problem for the GOP.

In her Dec. 25 online fundraising report, Sink showed total contributions of $1.43 million, with just more than $1 million in the bank. In his late December report, Jolly showed just under $142,000 on hand, while Peters reported less than $18,000 in the bank.

Given all of the advantages that Sink has — the district, her experience and proven electoral success, her money in the bank and her united party — and the problems the GOP nominee will face, shouldn’t the likely Democratic nominee be a clear favorite to win the special election, getting her party one seat closer to the majority in November?

The answer is “yes,” and if this seat had become open in 2006 or 2007, there is little doubt that Democrats would have been solid favorites to win.

On the other hand, since most nonpartisan handicappers and analysts have for years expected this seat to go Democratic when it became open, ...




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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2014, 05:29:28 AM »
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20140312/DACFR78G0.html


The implications of the dueling messages for the midterm elections inspired both parties to call in star advocates like former President Bill Clinton and former vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan, in addition to blanketing the district with ads, calls and mailings. More than $11 million has been spent on the race, according to the Sunlight Foundation, a nonprofit group that tracks government information.

Clinton recorded a phone call last week seeking local volunteers to help with Sink's campaign, and a half dozen House Democrats emailed fundraising appeals to their own supporters on her behalf. More than a third of Jolly's campaign contributions came from members of Congress.


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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2014, 05:30:10 AM »
W/o the libertarian in the race it would have even been worse. 

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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2014, 07:34:26 AM »
What...come on gents, you dems know this was bad. The guy got outspent and he ran on guns and Obamacare.
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2014, 07:55:34 AM »
Before the libtards on this board claim that it was not an important race, I will point out that it was considered an important race as evidenced by the efforts of the DNC.

FLASHBACK:

http://www3.blogs.rollcall.com/rothenblog/the-race-democrats-cant-afford-to-lose/

It’s rare in politics that anything other than a presidential contest is viewed as a “must win” — but the special election in Florida’s 13th District falls into that category for Democrats.

A loss in the competitive March 11 contest would almost certainly be regarded by dispassionate observers as a sign that President Barack Obama could constitute an albatross around the neck of his party’s nominees in November. And that could make it more difficult for Democratic candidates, campaign committees and interest groups to raise money and energize the grass roots.

Fundamentally, the district, left vacant by the death of longtime Republican Rep. C.W. Bill Young, looks competitive but has a slight Democratic tinge. Barack Obama carried it 52 percent to 48 percent in 2008, but he had a more narrow victory four years later, when he won 50 percent to 49 percent.

But fundamentals are only a small part of the Democratic advantage in the district this year. Campaign-related factors should strongly benefit the Democrats, as well.

Alex Sink is certain to win the Democratic nomination in the Jan. 14 primary. Sink, whose late husband, Bill McBride, was the unsuccessful Democratic nominee for governor in 2002, was elected Florida’s chief financial officer in 2006.

Four years later, she was her party’s gubernatorial nominee. In that toxic political environment for Democrats, Sink lost to multimillionaire GOP businessman Rick Scott by a mere 61,550 votes out of more than 5.3 million cast – a margin of just more than 1 point. In that contest, Scott spent $73 million of his own money (including money from his wife’s revocable trust), according to the Orlando Sentinel. But Sink carried the 13th District by 2 points in that race.

Democrats have rallied behind Sink’s congressional bid so completely that 2012 Democratic nominee Jessica Ehrlich, who wanted to run in the special election, was forced out of the contest.

Money could be a significant problem for the GOP.

In her Dec. 25 online fundraising report, Sink showed total contributions of $1.43 million, with just more than $1 million in the bank. In his late December report, Jolly showed just under $142,000 on hand, while Peters reported less than $18,000 in the bank.

Given all of the advantages that Sink has — the district, her experience and proven electoral success, her money in the bank and her united party — and the problems the GOP nominee will face, shouldn’t the likely Democratic nominee be a clear favorite to win the special election, getting her party one seat closer to the majority in November?

The answer is “yes,” and if this seat had become open in 2006 or 2007, there is little doubt that Democrats would have been solid favorites to win.

On the other hand, since most nonpartisan handicappers and analysts have for years expected this seat to go Democratic when it became open, ...





The libs on here will ask you to define "important" as they might have got it the first time. Because you know they won't answer.

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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2014, 08:11:46 AM »
And it will end several years from now with mass bayonettings in the streets ;D

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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2014, 08:15:12 AM »
And it will end several years from now with mass bayonettings in the streets ;D



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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2014, 08:49:33 AM »
W/o the libertarian in the race it would have even been worse. 

That is the only that they can make races look close or even steal them.

By planting a third candidate who claims to be libertarian or independent they will try to split the vote. That is what happened in Virginia.


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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2014, 08:59:08 AM »
The libs on here will ask you to define "important" as they might have got it the first time. Because you know they won't answer.

So, uh, landslide comin'?  lol

It's too early to predict anything accurately. 

This loss may be significant or it may not be.  We'll see.

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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2014, 09:01:43 AM »
That is the only that they can make races look close or even steal them.

By planting a third candidate who claims to be libertarian or independent they will try to split the vote. That is what happened in Virginia.



If not for that virginia 3rd party plant the repub would have actually won there too, against all odds

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« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2014, 11:01:00 AM »
If not for that virginia 3rd party plant the repub would have actually won there too, against all odds

He would have

But when this truth is mentioned, the libtards' collective head explodes. They actually believe that crapcare didn't make a difference in the race being so close.

They are in for a rude awakening this November. Crapcare is not going to get better. They are not meeting the goals even when they delay the mandates and everyone can see they are fudging the numbers of enrollees.

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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2014, 11:16:02 AM »
what matters now is that repubs become complacent and comfy now, since they will obviously win everything in '14 an '16 based upon this.

I remember the "Landslide" threads after the 1st Romney debate.
I remember the "BLOWOUT!" after Mccain, up by 4 points, added a starry-eyed maverick to his ticket.
I remember "Brown 41" when Scott Brown's election ensured Obamacare would never pass.

This is a good win, but really, the victory parades already?   Repubs won by less than 2 points, with a "legalize it!" hippie stealing 5% of the vote? 

And the election took place smack dab in the middle of spring break in Tampa, where everyone under 50 in the service industry (almost all of them dems) is working 80 hours this week.   

Hold this election in November - 8 weeks before Christmas when everyone's broke, it's colder so fewer old people bother, and remove the 5% pothead spoiler from the equation... Do you think the repub still wins this particular race?

Enjoy the win, but stop dancing... Spring break + pothead vote gave the win to the repub here.

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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2014, 11:26:47 AM »
Another spring break effect.... A large chunk of college kids are registered to vote on Campus, so they can vote in Nov mid and prez elections.  

And...

80% of the 250,000 college kids in FL are home on spring break this week.   There were almost 100,000 grad + undergrad + staff from USF Tampa alone, that were on break... drum roll please.... March 10-15th ;)

So if they're not DRUNK or IN OHIO or AWAY from their polling stations, I'm sure they remembered to vote lol...


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« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2014, 01:58:41 PM »
More wishful thinking by libtards.

Democrats are going to get hammered for supporting the worst legislation ever written.

They will try to avoid it, but those that voted for it will have to defend it and they will look bad doing it, since the law is a failure. No one can prove otherwise. It is a proven fact that it has failed.

Of course Republicans will not win every race. There are too many idiots in this country with leftard leanings for that to happen. But, don't be surprised if the GOP wins the Senate AND strengthens its hold in the House.

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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2014, 02:13:36 PM »
More wishful thinking by libtards

You really don't think Spring Break in Tampa (tourist & college town) hurt Dems at all?

Maybe you can say it hurt less than the 1.8% margin of victory, and we can argue that... but AT ALL?

How about a 3rd party Nader to hand it to the Repubs?  I mean, dude got 5%...   Really?   Doesn't affect things at all?

you ignored my specific points and responded with broad paint strokes about the future of elections.  I was focused specifically upon why Repubs may have had a unique advantage here in this one race.

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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2014, 02:53:45 PM »
You really don't think Spring Break in Tampa (tourist & college town) hurt Dems at all?


Do you really believe that college age students, young people, make an effort to vote in the midterm elections?

Most voters tend to be older and white for midterm elections.

You also make the mistake of thinking that young people have that same old enthusiasm they had in 2008 for the Dems. Why would they vote for a party that wants them to OVERPAY for health insurance, who have destroyed the job market and whose leader, the jokeinthewhitehouse, is not what they expected?

The polish has worn off the Dem turd.

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« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2014, 02:59:22 PM »
Do you really believe that college age students, young people, make an effort to vote in the midterm elections?

Most voters tend to be older and white for midterm elections.

You also make the mistake of thinking that young people have that same old enthusiasm they had in 2008 for the Dems. Why would they vote for a party that wants them to OVERPAY for health insurance, who have destroyed the job market and whose leader, the jokeinthewhitehouse, is not what they expected?

The polish has worn off the Dem turd.

I didn't make any of those assumptions.  I suggested the fact they're on spring break may have impacted it.  And without a doubt, at least ONE college student didn't vote because of spring break travel or work or party or whatever, an impediment which won't be there next time.  It'd be silly to argue there was NO impact.

Now, you can say the combined impact of 100,000 USF people being on break
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Service industry HUGE jump due to visitors to tampa
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A pothead treehugging 3rd party siphoneing 5% of vote

had an effect which was less than 1.8% margin of victory by the Repub, and if youre making that argument, I'm cool there.   I just have to think the 3rd party alone would be enough of a monkey wrench to keep us from calling this the pre-eminent sign of things to come.

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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2014, 03:10:54 PM »
had an effect which was less than 1.8% margin of victory by the Repub, and if youre making that argument, I'm cool there.   I just have to think the 3rd party alone would be enough of a monkey wrench to keep us from calling this the pre-eminent sign of things to come.

The third party, planted by the Democrats, had a greater effect on the elections than Spring training. Yes. I believe that and that is my argument, since historically most young people DO NOT TEND TO VOTE IN DROVES IN MIDTERM ELECTIONS.

A 1.8% victory is still great. Why? That GOP candidate was supposed to lose.

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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2014, 03:20:25 PM »
A 1.8% victory is still great. Why? That GOP candidate was supposed to lose.

He lives in Florida.  Some would argue that he still lost.  :)