I like big clits and I cannot lie... Roids for the girls?

[phreak]

Okay, maybe a penoris isn't necessarily what I'm looking for in a woman. Let alone my wife. But I would like some expert opinion on roid use for women. I have read quite a number of assumptions on other boards, and a lot of n=1 experiences, so I'm looking for even more of those.

Wife's goals:
- be stronger than most of the 18-y.o. boys at the gym (she's partly there already),
- look strong but very feminine,
- no injectables, she's been injected too many times in her life already (not roids),
- not be obese, but also not shredded. Tits and ass need to stay.

Some questions that pop up:
- what compounds? Only var, or are there other mild non-DHT ones that would be suitable? I have even seen anadrol suggested!
- what cycle length?
- take her monthly cycle into account or not?
- no PCT, but maybe plan a cycle so that it ends shortly after her period ends? (to avoid a double whammy of no roids AND increasing estrogen)

Who out there has a wife/girlfriend/fuck buddy that is having good results?

[Wez]

My wife does really well on 8 week cycles of 10mg Var and 1iu GH ed. No PCT necessary. Can't help you with the period stuff we are in our mid 50s. No sides on this except for a little acne. I highly recommend pharma Var. It's expensive but worth it. If you can find it another alternative would be oral Primo.

[phreak]

My wife does really well on 8 week cycles of 10mg Var and 1iu GH ed. No PCT necessary. Can't help you with the period stuff we are in our mid 50s. No sides on this except for a little acne. I highly recommend pharma Var. It's expensive but worth it. If you can find it another alternative would be oral Primo.

Interesting. How much of a difference does that 1 IU of GH make? And more importantly, for what goal is she taking it? Fat loss only?

[Wez]

Interesting. How much of a difference does that 1 IU of GH make? And more importantly, for what goal is she taking it? Fat loss only?

At our age it's quality of life. Skin is better, nails are harder, immune system is better, she sleeps better, gym recovery time is better also. At 1iu there is not much fat loss or muscle building. It is Serostim BTW. 

[galeniko]

man what is this shit no inectables.

you cant run orals forever.

now, stronger than skinnfat men, thats easy, will soon happen actualy.

if she dont want virilisation issues, steroids,all steroids are a no go.

i can guarantee you,that 2-3weeks of test 1 ampoula weekly will make her grow a moustache(slight), voice will deeppen(irreversible),possible hairloss,women do have androgen receptrs on their head too they just never have enough test and dht in the blood to make the hair fall out, .

and the clit will grow a monumental amount of size in that time.tripple in size.

now obviously test is very strong for women.

now ,what prals are out there, anavarmvery often winstrol, if its winstrol expect brutal virilisation and immediate hair thinning.

anadrol?just do not.

dbol.hellno.

winstrol?see above.

primo?rather no.

whats left oral turinabol maybe.

and again cant runt orals for long.

even 1 small shot deca or eq weekly will virilise her quite fast.

some say primo is good for women, hell fuck no its not.

believe me, all steroids will virilise women very quick.

heres what the smart women do.

hgh, efedrina and estrogen blocker.or inhibitor.and thats it.

ok maybe extremly lowd doses of eq, deca or anavar,they could get away with, can start and see if the sides happen and then go off.

but they tolerate extremly little before virilisation kicks in.

[Wez]

Hey Gal are you saying the East German swim team wasn't femimine?

[Wolfox]

There was this female bber Andrea/ NPC Chicka who use to post on mayhem and other boards her cycles including sides and stuff. I would google her and check out her info and recommendations for females who want to avoid as much virilization as possible.

[Nicademus]

i've always wondered how those female athletes stay so feminine/side free even though they take peds? Marion Jones, flo jo, denise lewis and all them. It isn't just the hebrews, some of the white chicks have the swole delts look but are still feminine looking as well.

The only sample balco cycle ever posted was dwain chambers which was thg twice a week and 100mg test once a week plus 4iu hgh everyday. It would interesting if the female cycles were ever released.

99% of those women had one compound in common.  Winstrol. 

[Wolfox]

99% of those women had one compound in common.  Winstrol. 

Yeah I'm looking at a list of doping cases and Winstrol is fairly common with women.


Dat dere winny hotness of Anastasiya Kapachinskaya

[Wolfox]

i've always wondered how those female athletes stay so feminine/side free even though they take peds? Marion Jones, flo jo, denise lewis and all them. It isn't just the hebrews, some of the white chicks have the swole delts look but are still feminine looking as well.

The only sample balco cycle ever posted was dwain chambers which was thg twice a week and 100mg test once a week plus 4iu hgh everyday. It would interesting if the female cycles were ever released.

They aren't. Its just our views are skewed compared to people who don't lift. Most of us see fitness and figure chicks as hot ass but many people think it's rather masculine. I mean, traditionally feminine females weren't supposed to have abs and be at low bf levels.

[galeniko]

they not feminine, only on pics.

when you talk to them in person, you see the moustache outlines, you hear the voices, you notice th receeding hairlines, you see the huge skin pores in face, rough skin in general.

and well, if you happen to see them naked, i seen 3 of them, you will be disturbed.

it wouldnt be interesting to hear anything about aleged cycles, aproach them directly in the gym ,befriend them and then ask about the drug use.
if youre a schmoe-twink, they wont say a thing, if you look like on gear and admit yourself, they will talk freely.

ask them directly but nicely, dont listen to 3rd party gossip.dont be a gossiping girl.

[RRKore]

I nominate this for best thread title of the year.

[phreak]

Thanks for the feedback, all.

Sorry Gal: no injections. She's already had her share from highly acidic chemo injections, blunt Rediject needles, necrosis, etc.


I do like the idea of reducing estrogen instead of adding test. However, the question then is what the balance between estrogen and progesteron should be. Wouldn't want to induce permanent PMS! 


The woman posted above is good mass-wise, but a bit too shredded for her (and my) tastes.



And yes, she already is stronger than most boys in the gym, certainly in her lower body. And the shoulders are coming.

[galeniko]

well, since gh is injectable too(however its just subc its nothing compared to shooting steroids)that flies out of the window too.

whats left, anti estrogens, keep in mind nolvadex isnt an anti estrogen, arimidex is.

mens and stuff will get out of whack on that, almost 100% surely, but same happens when women become shredded.

hm, if you can get ahold of real anavars, a minimum dose trial would be ok i guess, the scary thing is the viriliastion stuff is irreversible, so anavar isnt a bad choice, its oral, if viril sides get too much can go off imediately(unlike a long injectable ester),and its mild.

should be mild on the hair too, in theroy.

while you can bet money on winstrol and rimo being bad on the hair, that one is sure no need to be scientist to figure this out.

so why not, bit anavar.efedrina if she has no heart issues herself and in family will be ok for dieting and workout boost,but id always stay away from medical metabolism boosters like those.

[galeniko]

wouldnt a girl be safest on testosterone and a shitload of finasteride?

within 2 weeks will be half male

[dexitrim]

Okay, maybe a penoris isn't necessarily what I'm looking for in a woman. Let alone my wife. But I would like some expert opinion on roid use for women. I have read quite a number of assumptions on other boards, and a lot of n=1 experiences, so I'm looking for even more of those.

Wife's goals:
- be stronger than most of the 18-y.o. boys at the gym (she's partly there already),
- look strong but very feminine,
- no injectables, she's been injected too many times in her life already (not roids),
- not be obese, but also not shredded. Tits and ass need to stay.

Some questions that pop up:
- what compounds? Only var, or are there other mild non-DHT ones that would be suitable? I have even seen anadrol suggested!
- what cycle length?
- take her monthly cycle into account or not?
- no PCT, but maybe plan a cycle so that it ends shortly after her period ends? (to avoid a double whammy of no roids AND increasing estrogen)

Who out there has a wife/girlfriend/fuck buddy that is having good results?

My 46 yo wife started using gear about a 1 1/2 years.  She started out on Var (sciroxx) at 10mg/day, and went as high as 20mg/day.  Ran that about 10-12 weeks.  No sides whatsoever.  Added about 15lbs while leaning her out.  Nice fullness and strength.  Loved it.  Took 6-8 weeks off.  Tried out Winny tabs (March) at 15mg/day.  Ran that about 12 weeks.  Increased sex drive, vascularity, some shedding, and achy joints.  Not as much fullness as the var gave her.  She didn't like it.  Her period stopped, though.  Took a few weeks off, and started Primo E at 100mg/wk.  Primo E gave her similar results as Var, but at the 4 week mark, her clit blew up, so I backed her down to 50mg/wk.  Ran the Primo E for 16 weeks total.  Voice started cracking and getting raspy towards the end.  She took a couple of weeks off, and started Var again (Kalpa).  Ran that for a couple of months at 15-20mg/day, but added in Epistane at 10mg/day for a few weeks at the end.  Got really good pumps, and expected results from Var.  Ran out of Var, so we tried Tbol (Kalpa) at 15mg/day for a few weeks until she started getting oily skin and breaking out.  Dropped the Tbol and Epistane.  Voice started getting pretty raspy, too.  For August, tried NPP (TSM) at 30mg/e3d along with some Test Prop at 20mg.  Nothing noteworthy.  Began prepping for her first Physique comp starting Sept with Var 20mg/day and Primo tabs 25mg/day (both TSM).  For October, added Proviron at 25mg/day the first two weeks, then switched to Winny at 25mg/day (TSM) for the final two week before her competition, which she won.  She took most of Nov, Dec, and Jan off.  She's currently running 40-50mg/wk Primo E (Chavo) and 60mg/wk Deca (Tek Labs).  From our experience, Var is the way to go at 10-20mg/day.  No sides, strength increase, delts pop, burns fat, turns heads.  Her voice got a little better when she took this last break, but it's still a little harsh.  Clit went back to normal.  No problems with body hair.  She really hasn't had a period since running the Winstrol solo.  She had some spotting during this last break, but not a full-blown period.  Hope that gives some insight.

[galeniko]

how so?

isnt it the DHT which is the androgen?

which is inhibited by finasteride?

dont know what but seen it happening.

women will turn into men on test so fast you wont believe it.

read the post above mine, they get virilisation sifdes from laughable doses on childplay weakest gear.

tey also get great muscle results though,better than men imo.

and test is simply the sledgehammer for them.

btw tits shrink to nothing very quick.

and they get 10times increased libido.

finasteride blocks dht but not all testosterone

[Overload]

10mg of Var is really the highest dose without any bad or permanent sides.

I know a lot of girls who have used low doses of Var off and on for years with very few issues.

Everyone is different though so you never know.

[galeniko]

galeniko

i think, i want to reduce test to 250

so that i hope the finasteride and the hair stands a better chance at survival


 

never worry bro, i mean dont do stupid things like running mast when you want to keep hair, but incase it falls out anyway, the transplant.

another guy i know did it,he had almost not a hair left on his top of head,now it loks really good.

you know the deal, more gear is just more glycogen retention in msucle more or less, you can forever run 250 and keep your look which is pretty much perfect for the girls.

and maybe add gh thats safest for hair.but yeah with the quality and prices these days, transplant is definite best last resort.

[galeniko]

yeah i think i'm gonna go 250 for sometime

who knows maybe i can even improve my arms somewhat

ys you can, higher dose will merely giv emore overall size,and make the strong bodyparts unproportionaly bigger than the weaknesses,see centipedi chest for example.

to create the illusion of huge arms, just overly concentrate on arms, whenever they not sore,train them and skip whatever was scheduled.

arms are the only part where nobody sane would mind if theyre unproportionaly big(except the synthol "arms")

think, 250might not be enough to support overall growth of everything, but its enough for the relatively small arm muscles.

that,lol, btw,i s eactly my training regiment

i literaly dont give a fuck about any other group, well,legs i care somewaht.

[BikiniSlut]

Why doesn't she just start on a low dose of anavar?

[galeniko]

Why doesn't she just start on a low dose of anavar?

shes smart to throughoutly inform herself before doing any" just start and then see".

if a guy wants to jmp on monster cycle, cool, not much damage can be done short term, but women, believe it, women from 2 ampoulas of test will be 50% man within forthnight.

girls love arms

yeah abs arms lean face thats it.

[steamboatwillie]

Before I was married I dated a figure girl for a couple years.  She was naturally very small (like 5'2 105) so she tried everything to put on size.  I know she worked her way up to 25mg var and 100mg primo (she would only use human grade gear).  She hated winstrol...made her hair shed a lot.  She used 10mg, 15mg, and 20mg per week of watson cyp....which gave her the best size gains, but it did a number on her skin so she had to stop it.  She loved clen and eca prior to shows, but she leaned out easily.

[Nicademus]

And then she saw your receding hairline and snapped out of it.

[Nicademus]

Then lock it down, knock it up, and ruin her for the next dude.