The type of conditioning I'd like to get into

[Cleanest Natural]

This ripped, regardless of size

[SmallPole]

thanks for the info

[The True Adonis]

[THE ARS]

What is that thing?

[The True Adonis]

What is that thing?

Its a box with wires that allows you to connect to people across the world.  But nevermind that now.

[_aj_]

This ripped, regardless of size

Patty Beckman. "Natural" champ. LOL.

[njflex]

Patty Beckman. "Natural" champ. LOL.

adonis will tell u how naturals get ripped and look better ripped than user's..

[mass243]

Looks fokin' awesome. I would be pleased with the size too.

But long hair gives homo look. Should cut it a bit.

[Cleanest Natural]

I don't see why people accuse her of not being natural

[the trainer]

This ripped, regardless of size

You dont have the genes to do it, you have to starve yourself of carbs just to look like an average ripped dude.

[THE ARS]

Gross.

OP, if that's your goal you just need  some implants, a nice tuck job, a close shave and change your name.

Good luck.


Tom

[galeniko]

a man will not hold on to such for even 1whole day lol

for this, must have the genetics and be a woman actually.they have less deposits in back,shoulders and thin skin.

i know i couldnt make it,theres no way on earth.

[Cleanest Natural]

a man will not hold on to such for even 1whole day lol

for this, must have the genetics and be a woman actually.they have less deposits in back,shoulders and thin skin.

i know i couldnt make it,theres no way on earth.

Very few men or women manage this low a bodyfat level, I'd give it a shot. I think it takes a lot of suffering.

[jr]

I think some of these women have an eating disorder such as anorexia or bulemia, but the muscle mass disguises this fact.

[Simple Simon]

I think some of these women have an eating disorder such as anorexia or bulemia, but the muscle mass disguises this fact.

Yep, no doubt about it.

[C-BuZz]

I think some of these women have a good eating drug protocol such as Testosterone &/or Tren. Also the muscle mass confirms this fact.

I agree man.

[hazbin]

ripped

[galeniko]

Very few men or women manage this low a bodyfat level, I'd give it a shot. I think it takes a lot of suffering.

its not even a bodyfat level issue ,man, can believe me.

its a skin thickness and subcutane water question.

we have 1 woman in the gym, she comes close to that,when she trains her back, i cant believe the details in her shoulder and upper back,its incredible and i have seen hamdi shredded irl, he doesnt come close realy.

however that womans legs are way softer than the shoulder and back.

this dryness can forget about it,at this point every genetic factor must be dead on, its not even the drugs.

she the woman in your pics is dryier than andreas munzer ever was in his shoulders.

[Nails]

Ripped , she wont live past tonight 

[Cleanest Natural]

its not even a bodyfat level issue ,man, can believe me.

its a skin thickness and subcutane water question.

we have 1 woman in the gym, she comes close to that,when she trains her back, i cant believe the details in her shoulder and upper back,its incredible and i have seen hamdi shredded irl, he doesnt come close realy.

however that womans legs are way softer than the shoulder and back.

this dryness can forget about it,at this point every genetic factor must be dead on, its not even the drugs.

she the woman in your pics is dryier than andreas munzer ever was in his shoulders.

I agree, you have to have a genetic predisposition for this like the natural guy who is german and ripped to the bone.

[galeniko]

I agree, you have to have a genetic predisposition for this like the natural guy who is german and ripped to the bone.

yeah i know one guy whos similiar, when he work rear delts, holy fucking shit, the details that pop out, realy,im a fattie compared to him.

not even sure if the guy tries

seen too many who did all drugs and diuretics int he world and starving to the death but never got so dry.

you know these thin ppl who dont work out and have bit stomach fat,but shockingly lean arms?that is it,these are those who can do it.

[galeniko]

I think some of these women have an eating disorder such as anorexia or bulemia, but the muscle mass disguises this fact.

everybody who gets totaly peeled, this means pretty much al competitors,will be classed by medicine with an eating disorder.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I can't even begin to imagine how miserable that diet process would be

[nasum]

Very few men or women manage this low a bodyfat level, I'd give it a shot. I think it takes a lot of suffering.

It does, I tried it and could barely get below 9-8%. I need to ahem man up (like this woman). I'm going to prepare myself mentally and give it another go this summer.

Seriously it does explain why galeniko is always so pissed. It is literally an endurance test to see how much hunger you can take.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

It does, I tried it and could barely get below 9-8%. I need to ahem man up (like this woman). I'm going to prepare myself mentally and give it another go this summer.

Seriously it does explain why galeniko is always so pissed. It is literally an endurance test to see how much hunger you can take.

Exactly. I lasted 9 months on a diet like that and it still was too much food since I didn't get THAT lean. I was natural at the time and the suffering became too unbearable so I started taking steroids.