Team Putin and Sanctions on Russia

[Gonuclear]

it is also against international law to steal a coubtry of its territory- but kosovo , falkland are ""special cases"" because us and their western pupies told u so. Crimea is more legit than iraq , afganistan , kosovo elections because nobody was killed. Deal with it

Falklands belongs to the UK, going back to the 17th century and Argentina invaded illegally in 1982.  And which Kosovo elections are you referring to? 

You have a point about Iraq and Afghanistan, but the best analogy to Putin's action is Hitler's Anschluss policy in Europe.  He annexed Austria in 1938.  No one died then, either.  There was even a referendum and 97% voted for Hitler.  After it became obvious that they had better do so via the presence of Nazi troops.  Very similar in every respect.  Which is why the Europeans, slow to react to anything, reacted to Putin very strongly and quickly.

[Gonuclear]

Russia only produces/export gas & petrol only, not much else is made there.
Persian & Libyan petrol would replace Putins oil.

That's right.

But Putin thinks he only needs China and its allies' markets for his petrochemicals.  But China is a shaky partner, not much better than the US in terms of Russia paranoia.  He really needs the Europeans, and he has badly scared them by aping Hitler in the late thirties.  And for what? To annex a region he dominates anyway.

[manuelsonn]

Falklands belongs to the UK, going back to the 17th century and Argentina invaded illegally in 1982.  And which Kosovo elections are you referring to? 

You have a point about Iraq and Afghanistan, but the best analogy to Putin's action is Hitler's Anschluss policy in Europe.  He annexed Austria in 1938.  No one died then, either.  There was even a referendum and 97% voted for Hitler.  After it became obvious that they had better do so via the presence of Nazi troops.  Very similar in every respect.  Which is why the Europeans, slow to react to anything, reacted to Putin very strongly and quickly.

no, kosovo its the precedent for crimmea (Kosovan independence referendum, 1991)- that referendum was recognized by western puppets and amurica afeter 8 yers-  you dont need to make the same mistake twice ,so , after fascism in ukraine overtrow a legitimate  governement and ban the use of foreign language it was a clear necesity to choose a right path for an autonomus region- by vote =democracy in full efect

[manuelsonn]

UE sees that the only americun interest here is to destroy UE and RUssia economy by supporting a ilegimitate regime in ukraine - thats the only yanks purpose, UE will have to continue partership with russia if doesnt want anoter  crisisis , and amuriana will have to go back to kill another suveran states in his pursuit of killing and theft

[muscleman-2013]

GONUCLEAR - zionist at heart, don't trust a word he utters.

[Gonuclear]

no, kosovo its the precedent for crimmea (Kosovan independence referendum, 1991)- that referendum was recognized by western puppets and amurica afeter 8 yers-  you dont need to make the same mistake twice ,so , after fascism in ukraine overtrow a legitimate  governement and ban the use of foreign language it was a clear necesity to choose a right path for an autonomus region- by vote =democracy in full efect

The 1991 referendum was recognized only by Albania.  What brought in Europe and the US was ethnic cleansing.  Yes, Clinton should have included Russia in determining policy, given their ties to the Serbs.  But otherwise the situations are not similar.  Putin's Kremlin speech just makes the case for revenge, and "revenge" against the West is not exactly in the best interests of Russia.

[Gonuclear]

UE sees that the only americun interest here is to destroy UE and RUssia economy by supporting a ilegimitate regime in ukraine - thats the only yanks purpose, UE will have to continue partership with russia if doesnt want anoter  crisisis , and amuriana will have to go back to kill another suveran states in his pursuit of killing and theft

No, the Europeans see their own interests and those interests do not include the Soviet Union getting rebuilt by a revival of Hitler's annexation policies.

I know Putin is very popular at home.  Let's see how popular he stays when the economy starts to suffer.

[muscleman-2013]

and "revenge" against the West is not exactly in the best interests of Russia.

NOR is it in the best interests of the usa.

[Gonuclear]

GONUCLEAR - zionist at heart, don't trust a word he utters.

I happen not to be a Zionist, but Israel is actually with Putin on this, just so you know. 

And the Zionists worldwide are delighted because it is a distraction from the Palestinian occupation.

[Tapeworm]

Hitler's annexation policies.

 

Didn't the people who live there vote overwhelmingly in favor of joining Russia?

[Gonuclear]

Didn't the people who live there vote overwhelmingly in favor of joining Russia?

If Bangor, Maine (which has a large French Canadian contingent) voted to join Canada, that would not give Canada the right to annex that city.

If you don't agree with that, then Putin is your guy.

By the way the people in Austria "voted overwhelmingly" to become part of Germany in 1938.

[Kwon_2]

[manuelsonn]

The americana should than russia forr reinstauring  democracy with vote, not with bombing of a suveran country,and start killing the crap of ukrainians fascist who overtrownd a legitimate president. Even moreif americnuts were consecvents in their foreign policy they should start also a bombing campaignagaist ukraine to recognise the legitimity of suverain crimeea,like they did with kosovo

[manuelsonn]

I happen not to be a Zionist, but Israel is actually with Putin on this, just so you know. 

And the Zionists worldwide are delighted because it is a distraction from the Palestinian occupation.

ok,whats your opinionon kosovo?

[_bruce_]

Russia has the better cards.

[Tapeworm]

If Bangor, Maine (which has a large French Canadian contingent) voted to join Canada, that would not give Canada the right to annex that city.

If you don't agree with that, then Putin is your guy.

By the way the people in Austria "voted overwhelmingly" to become part of Germany in 1938.

If the people of the south voted overwhelmingly to remain the same nation they had always been and not adopt a distant capital's new laws which would bring certain ruin upon them, do they not have a right to self-determination?

If you don't think so then Lincoln is your guy!

Btw, the people of the colonies 'voted overwhelmingly' to tell King George to go peel a spud.

[anabolichalo]

shit you americanos better do something

[mass243]

Falklands belongs to the UK, going back to the 17th century and Argentina invaded illegally in 1982.  And which Kosovo elections are you referring to?  

Mr. GayNuclear,

Please study some history. Crimea has belonged to Russia since Catherine the Great of Russia conquered it back in 1783.

[SuperTed]

Putin with Alexey. Two great Russians.

[Kwon_2]

[Kwon_2]

[StreetSoldier4U]

If Bangor, Maine (which has a large French Canadian contingent) voted to join Canada, that would not give Canada the right to annex that city.

If you don't agree with that, then Putin is your guy.

By the way the people in Austria "voted overwhelmingly" to become part of Germany in 1938.

The difference is the cultural ties between the Crimea and Russia is deeper and goes back much further.

[Parker]

Russia has the better cards.

It's all in how you play your hand...

[BIG AL MCKECHNIE]

Just been watching BBC politics show which featured John McCain and ambassador Vladimir Chizhov.

Vladimir is told that McCain is concerned that other former Soviet countries could be targeted next such as the Baltic states.
The ambassador is funny, joking that McCain should be more worried about Russia deciding to take back Alaska 

These Russians just don't give a fuck about threats from the pussified USA these days.

[Pray_4_War]

Just because I think Obama is a tool doesn't mean I'm gonna cozy up to this Dickface. 

Fuck Obama

Fuck Putin