Ya? Did you ever work out in Oxnard, CA? You know what, maybe it was Melvin Anthony I was talking too, you never know. It was this black guy and I went there because it was Thanksgiving '97('98? cannot remember) and my gym was closed. He said he had 22" arms and they sure looked it. He said he won the O.C. but he could have been speaking of '96 if it was '97, don't know.