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lol, q to the religious
« on: March 19, 2014, 11:56:53 AM »
why doesnt the bible adress dinosaurs?

 ;D ;D

i mean, do you deny dinosaurs?

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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2014, 11:58:38 AM »
why doesnt the bible adress dinosaurs?

 ;D ;D

i mean, do you deny dinosaurs?



They think the world is 6000 years old so Dinosaurs couldn't exist in their timeline.  Try to argue with them and they get mad at you

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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2014, 12:02:13 PM »
The dinosaurs roamed the planet with Adam and Eve. Died out during the flood since they weren't allowed onboard the Ark.

I thought this was common knowledge. ;D

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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2014, 12:03:00 PM »
there are snakes in the bible

epic religious contradictions
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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2014, 12:04:29 PM »
there are snakes in the bible

epic religious contradictions

i know nothing about religion
so i dont know why this is a contradiction

also--do they really think the world is 6000 years old? REALLY? what in the fuck?

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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2014, 12:09:55 PM »
Job chapter 41 Verse 1: Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook?  Verse 31:  He maketh the deep to boil like a pot.

could be a dino talked about here.
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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2014, 12:14:42 PM »
i know nothing about religion
so i dont know why this is a contradiction

also--do they really think the world is 6000 years old? REALLY? what in the fuck?

snakes are directly decended from dinos
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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2014, 12:55:54 PM »
i know nothing about religion
so i dont know why this is a contradiction

also--do they really think the world is 6000 years old? REALLY? what in the fuck?
to be fair, not all think that, i think its only an extremist usa fringe branch who think so.

You ask that question in a condescending and arrogant tone as if you are proving a point.  The only point you're proving is that you are ignorant regarding the issue.

The word "dinosaur" wasn't invented until 1841.  The King James Bible was translated in 1611.  So you will not find the word "dinosaur" in the Bible. 

You will find references to dinosaurs in the Bible under different terms though.  For example, one type of dinosaur is called "behemoth".


Job 40
[15] Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
[16] Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
[17] He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
[18] His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
[19] He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.
[20] Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
[21] He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
[22] The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.
[23] Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.
[24] He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.

Leviathan would be another one mentioned. 



first off, you could argue they were called dragons etc, but all the above is way too vague to be a dinosaur.

besides that, are you SERIOUSLY hahha claiming that humans lived with dinosaurs?oh lord ;D

are you cliaming theres evodence that dinos were around when those bible passages were written?

and you expect a non condescending tone?

its so weird, bible doesnt adress how dinosaurs were made was there an adma nad eve dino too?

you can defend the indefensible
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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2014, 01:01:46 PM »
oh

zekiel 29:3
...speak, and say, Thus says the Lord GOD: "Behold, I am against you, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lies in the midst of his streams, that says, 'My Nile is my own; I made it for myself.'


so they must have co existed i guess ;D

and the dinos aparently could even speak :o

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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2014, 01:03:42 PM »
to be fair, not all think that, i think its only an extremist usa fringe branch who think so.
first off, you could argue they were called dragons etc, but all the above is way too vague to be a dinosaur.

besides that, are you SERIOUSLY hahha claiming that humans lived with dinosaurs?oh lord ;D

are you cliaming theres evodence that dinos were around when those bible passages were written?

and you expect a non condescending tone?

its so weird, bible doesnt adress how dinosaurs were made was there an adma nad eve dino too?

you can defend the indefensible

good point.
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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2014, 02:01:41 PM »
oh

zekiel 29:3
...speak, and say, Thus says the Lord GOD: "Behold, I am against you, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lies in the midst of his streams, that says, 'My Nile is my own; I made it for myself.'


so they must have co existed i guess ;D

and the dinos aparently could even speak :o



Don't forget the snake in adam and eve could speak as well.  hahaha.  People devout their lives to these fairytales.  so sad.

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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2014, 02:07:16 PM »
why doesnt the bible adress dinosaurs?

 ;D ;D

i mean, do you deny dinosaurs?



Only idiots make fun of things that they dont know.

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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2014, 02:12:04 PM »
That depends on how you interpret the following passages on "Behemoth" and "Leviathan":

Job 40:15-24

15 “Take a look at Behemoth,
    which I made, just as I made you.
    It eats grass like an ox.
16 See its powerful loins
    and the muscles of its belly.
17 Its tail is as strong as a cedar.
    The sinews of its thighs are knit tightly together.
18 Its bones are tubes of bronze.
    Its limbs are bars of iron.
19 It is a prime example of God’s handiwork,
    and only its Creator can threaten it.
20 The mountains offer it their best food,
    where all the wild animals play.
21 It lies under the lotus plants,
    hidden by the reeds in the marsh.
22 The lotus plants give it shade
    among the willows beside the stream.
23 It is not disturbed by the raging river,
    not concerned when the swelling Jordan rushes around it.
24 No one can catch it off guard
    or put a ring in its nose and lead it away.


Job 41
The Lord’s Challenge Continues
41 “Can you catch Leviathan with a hook
    or put a noose around its jaw?
2 Can you tie it with a rope through the nose
    or pierce its jaw with a spike?
3 Will it beg you for mercy
    or implore you for pity?
4 Will it agree to work for you,
    to be your slave for life?
5 Can you make it a pet like a bird,
    or give it to your little girls to play with?
6 Will merchants try to buy it
    to sell it in their shops?
7 Will its hide be hurt by spears
    or its head by a harpoon?
8 If you lay a hand on it,
    you will certainly remember the battle that follows.
    You won’t try that again!
9 No, it is useless to try to capture it.
    The hunter who attempts it will be knocked down.
10 And since no one dares to disturb it,
    who then can stand up to me?
11 Who has given me anything that I need to pay back?
    Everything under heaven is mine.

12 “I want to emphasize Leviathan’s limbs
    and its enormous strength and graceful form.
13 Who can strip off its hide,
    and who can penetrate its double layer of armor?
14 Who could pry open its jaws?
    For its teeth are terrible!
15 Its scales are like rows of shields
    tightly sealed together.
16 They are so close together
    that no air can get between them.
17 Each scale sticks tight to the next.
    They interlock and cannot be penetrated.

18 “When it sneezes, it flashes light!
    Its eyes are like the red of dawn.
19 Lightning leaps from its mouth;
    flames of fire flash out.
20 Smoke streams from its nostrils
    like steam from a pot heated over burning rushes.
21 Its breath would kindle coals,
    for flames shoot from its mouth.

22 “The tremendous strength in Leviathan’s neck
    strikes terror wherever it goes.
23 Its flesh is hard and firm
    and cannot be penetrated.
24 Its heart is hard as rock,
    hard as a millstone.
25 When it rises, the mighty are afraid,
    gripped by terror.
26 No sword can stop it,
    no spear, dart, or javelin.
27 Iron is nothing but straw to that creature,
    and bronze is like rotten wood.
28 Arrows cannot make it flee.
    Stones shot from a sling are like bits of grass.
29 Clubs are like a blade of grass,
    and it laughs at the swish of javelins.
30 Its belly is covered with scales as sharp as glass.
    It plows up the ground as it drags through the mud.

31 “Leviathan makes the water boil with its commotion.
    It stirs the depths like a pot of ointment.
32 The water glistens in its wake,
    making the sea look white.
33 Nothing on earth is its equal,
    no other creature so fearless.
34 Of all the creatures, it is the proudest.
    It is the king of beasts.”


Most young earth creationists refer to these passages as speaking of dinosaurs while most old earth creationists speak of these passages as referring to elephants/hippos and large crocodiles.

I side with old earth creationism so I believe the days of creations were not 24-hours days, but were long ages and the dinosaurs were created, lived and became extinct before the creation of man.

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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2014, 02:19:26 PM »
I side with old earth creationism so I believe the days of creations were not 24-hours days, but were long ages and the dinosaurs were created, lived and became extinct before the creation of man.


SO how does thing creation malarkey work? Does God whisper a few words and they all appeared, fully formed?

Genuinely interested.
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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2014, 02:22:40 PM »
I side with old earth creationism so I believe the days of creations were not 24-hours days, but were long ages and the dinosaurs were created, lived and became extinct before the creation of man.


It lies under lotus plants and hides in the reeds in the marsh?  Wasn't the bible written in the middle east, jerusalem area?  Not sure what marshes they had there.  not sure what dinosaur would be hidden behind reeds in a marsh

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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2014, 02:23:08 PM »
SO how does thing creation malarkey work? Does God whisper a few words and they all appeared, fully formed?

Genuinely interested.

Genuinely interested in malarkey?  Somethin tells me you aren't LOL.

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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2014, 02:25:30 PM »
It lies under lotus plants and hides in the reeds in the marsh?  Wasn't the bible written in the middle east, jerusalem area?  Not sure what marshes they had there.  not sure what dinosaur would be hidden behind reeds in a marsh

I don't believe those passage refer to dinosaurs.

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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2014, 02:29:08 PM »
Genuinely interested in malarkey?  Somethin tells me you aren't LOL.

Did God whisper a few words and they all appeared from thin air?
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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2014, 02:29:19 PM »
Genuinely interested in malarkey?  Somethin tells me you aren't LOL.

stop swerving the question you are better than that

god did not create the earth in a week
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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2014, 02:30:24 PM »
I side with old earth creationism so I believe the days of creations were not 24-hours days, but were long ages and the dinosaurs were created, lived and became extinct before the creation of man.


But If God's "day" meant ages, how does the earth's vegetation, created on day 3, thrive for so long without sunlight (day 4)?

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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2014, 02:30:47 PM »
apart from some questionable bones in museums, what evidence have you actually seen of dinasors ::)

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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2014, 02:33:10 PM »
apart from some questionable bones in museums, what evidence have you actually seen of dinasors ::)

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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2014, 02:36:17 PM »
hey man of steel

I looked it up for myself and multiple sources say the bible says the earth is 6000 years old

how the fuck do you believe the garbage from that book

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« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2014, 02:38:07 PM »
Hey MoS, still waiting to find out how this 'creation' story happens. Is it a bit like Titanfall where the Titans, or Dinosaurs, drop from the sky?

But for real dude, I am actually curious. Do they appear from nowhere?
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Re: lol, q to the religious
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2014, 02:59:06 PM »
Would be really interesting to track down our real origins. Truth lies probably between the common ideas. The bible's version seems outlandish - but who knows. The world is way crazier than even the most hardened loon could imagine... so there's hope for a surprise.
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