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Mike Mentzer - Was he really 225 lbs in 1980?
« on: March 19, 2014, 12:31:38 PM »
Was he really 225 lbs in 1980 ?











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Re: Mike Mentzer
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2014, 12:37:44 PM »
Arnold 228?   



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Re: Mike Mentzer
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2014, 12:38:42 PM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2014, 01:00:53 PM »
mentzer was probably closer to 215.....

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Re: Mike Mentzer
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2014, 01:08:31 PM »
I seem to remember some reports having him around #210ish.

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Re: Mike Mentzer
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2014, 01:32:19 PM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2014, 01:36:10 PM »
He was 210 in 79.  He was 206 in 76 when he won the America.

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Re: Mike Mentzer
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2014, 01:41:21 PM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2014, 02:20:20 PM »
I think his amphetamine use increased after he stopped competing, which lead to his speed-psychosis years later.

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Re: Mike Mentzer
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2014, 02:28:47 PM »
Was Mentzer still sane at this time? Or did he lose his sanity later on in life?

I read it was in the lead up to the 80 Olympia that he started to lose it. Training, dieting, running a gym starting a magazine or some other kind of business venture. He was only getting a few hours of sleep and relied more and more on meth to keep of the hectic schedule. Then within a year his dad? died, his magazine failed and he came in 5th.

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Re: Mike Mentzer
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2014, 02:41:03 PM »
I read it was in the lead up to the 80 Olympia that he started to lose it. Training, dieting, running a gym starting a magazine or some other kind of business venture. He was only getting a few hours of sleep and relied more and more on meth to keep of the hectic schedule. Then within a year his dad? died, his magazine failed and he came in 5th.

Pretty sure you can just say it was the drugs. Take amphetamines to cope with workload initially. Soon the amphetamines take priority over everything, you drop the workload and become unreliable. Then the drug use clouds your ability to deal with situations and cope with setbacks. Total dependence.

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Re: Mike Mentzer
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2014, 02:53:01 PM »
Arnold never had the density of Mike Mentzer


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Re: Mike Mentzer
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Re: Mike Mentzer
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Re: Mike Mentzer
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2014, 03:02:56 PM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer
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Re: Mike Mentzer
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2014, 03:04:12 PM »
Arnold never had the density of Mike Mentzer


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Re: Mike Mentzer
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2014, 03:05:11 PM »
Looking back over my training I think the biggest mistake I made was training to failure all the time. I would read everything I could on Arthur Jones, Darden and Mentzer.

 Every set would take me close to death. It's a stupid way to train leading to burn out. Imagine if you were a runner and you mapped out a 3 mile course. Would every single training day would you try to beat your previous time?  If you were a beginner that could be an accepted protocol but for an experience lifter it's nuts.  

For almost 40 years I kept a training journal. I found working out like a lunatic without drugs I would burn out in 3 to 4 weeks needing a week off. Don't get me wrong I made good progress but taking every set to failure trying to get one more rep or another pound on the bar takes a toll.

In the past I would watch guys train that didn't use a low set HIT routine and terminating their sets prior to true positive failure thinking they didn't have a work ethic. Now I realize training to failure is a tool and it shouldn't be the only method used. I think think sets should so something like this.4 sets of 10. The first 3 should be hard but not killer. The last could be failure. So first set you might be able to get 15 but you stop at 10. Second maybe you could get 13 but stop at 10. The third maybe 11 but you stop at 10. Your last set you fail at 9 reps. This gets all the muscle fibers. If you do one set to failure you are not getting all the muscle fibers.

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Re: Mike Mentzer
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Re: Mike Mentzer
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2014, 03:08:50 PM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer
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