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Re: Vince Taylor, good training style to emulate
« Reply #50 on: April 01, 2014, 12:14:49 PM »
Good post, imo... I train exactly like this, especially for arms, calves, shoulders and upper legs, always between 10-20 reps, squeezing and doing slow negative, best form possible... For back and chest i usually do 1 or 2 heavy exercises with few reps for a start... Being natural, this kind of training worked great for me, both strenght and size increased, i'm probably a good volume responder, who knows...

You guys who train in higher rep/strict form fashion - do you maintain the same weight across all of your sets, or do you reduce it as you go on, so as to keep the reps within that range?

Reason I ask is that I've tried the lighter, higher rep stuff on a few occasions, using a weight where I get maybe 16 or 17 reps first set, rest a minute or so, try again and maybe only get 11 or 12 reps, then rest and a final set where I'm lucky to hit 8 or 10.

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Re: Vince Taylor, good training style to emulate
« Reply #51 on: April 01, 2014, 01:03:47 PM »
Why not a happy medium?

Work up to two heavy 6 rep sets, then drop back to two 10-12 rep sets.

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Re: Vince Taylor, good training style to emulate
« Reply #52 on: April 01, 2014, 03:45:14 PM »
Vince Taylor has quite a resume...


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Re: Vince Taylor, good training style to emulate
« Reply #53 on: April 01, 2014, 03:51:25 PM »
Vince Taylor has quite a resume...

2007 Arnold Classic, 10th
2007 Australian Pro, 3rd
2006 Mr. Olympia - 11th
2006 Australian Pro - 3rd
2002 Masters Olympia - 2nd
2001 Masters Olympia - 1st
2000 Masters Olympia - 1st
1999 Masters Olympia - IFBB, 1st
1999 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 6th
1998 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 3rd
1998 Arnold Classic - IFBB, Masters, 1st
1998 Masters Arnold - IFBB, Winner
1997 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 5th
1997 Grand Prix Czech Republic - IFBB, 7th
1997 Grand Prix England - IFBB, 7th
1997 Grand Prix Finland - IFBB, 6th
1997 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 9th
1997 Grand Prix Hungary - IFBB, 9th
1997 Grand Prix Russia - IFBB, 6th
1997 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 8th
1997 Olympia - Masters - IFBB, Overall Winner
1997 Mr. Olympia - Masters - IFBB, Masters 40+, 1st
1996 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 4th
1996 Grand Prix Czech Republic - IFBB, 4th
1996 Grand Prix England - IFBB, 6th
1996 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 6th
1996 Grand Prix Russia - IFBB, 3rd
1996 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 6th
1996 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 7th
1996 Grand Prix Switzerland - IFBB, 5th
1996 Mr. Olympia - Masters - IFBB, Winner
1996 San Jose Pro Invitational - IFBB, 3rd
1995 Grand Prix England - IFBB, Winner
1995 Grand Prix France - IFBB, Winner
1995 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 2nd
1995 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 6th
1995 Grand Prix Russia - IFBB, 2nd
1995 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 2nd
1995 Grand Prix Ukraine - IFBB, Winner
1995 Houston Pro Invitational - IFBB, 2nd
1995 Niagara Falls Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
1995 Night of Champions - IFBB, 2nd
1995 Mr. Olympia - IFBB, 5th
1994 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 2nd
1994 Grand Prix France - IFBB, 2nd
1994 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 2nd
1994 Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
1993 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 3rd
1993 Grand Prix France - IFBB, 2nd
1993 Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 2nd
1993 Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 3rd
1993 San Jose Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
1992 Arnold Classic - IFBB, Winner
1992 Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
1992 Mr. Olympia - IFBB, 6th
1992 Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
1991 Arnold Classic - IFBB, 3rd
1991 Grand Prix Denmark - IFBB, Winner
1991 Grand Prix England - IFBB, 2nd
1991 Grand Prix Finland - IFBB, Winner
1991 Grand Prix Italy - IFBB, Winner
1991 Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, Winner
1991 Grand Prix Switzerland - IFBB, Winner
1991 Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 5th
1991 Mr. Olympia - IFBB, 3rd
1991 Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
1989 Grand Prix England - IFBB, 2nd
1989 Grand Prix Finland - IFBB, 2nd
1989 Grand Prix Holland - IFBB, 4th
1989 Night of Champions - IFBB, Winner
1989 Mr. Olympia - IFBB, 3rd
1988 Nationals - NPC, Overall Winner
1988 Nationals - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 1st
1987 Mr America - AAU, Medium, 1st
1987 Nationals - NPC, Light-HeavyWeight, 4th
1983 Mr. Berlin Heavy Weight - 1st

It was said that the Master's Olympia was created to help give Lou Ferrigno a Olympia title, but Robby Robinson won...and then later in Vince Taylor kept on winning until Don Youngblood beat him. And Don died...
And I think the Masters O eventually petered out as well.

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Re: Vince Taylor, good training style to emulate
« Reply #54 on: April 01, 2014, 04:02:42 PM »
You guys who train in higher rep/strict form fashion - do you maintain the same weight across all of your sets, or do you reduce it as you go on, so as to keep the reps within that range?

Reason I ask is that I've tried the lighter, higher rep stuff on a few occasions, using a weight where I get maybe 16 or 17 reps first set, rest a minute or so, try again and maybe only get 11 or 12 reps, then rest and a final set where I'm lucky to hit 8 or 10.
Yes, usually i start with the most weight, decreasing until final set... I also try to vary a bit, maybe doing the first set lighter and the second heavier, rarely i also do what you wrote, keeping the same weight for all sets, obviously decreasing with reps... As i said, this kind of volume training works great for me and i use it on arms, shoulders, calves and upper legs... Obviously i never do my max possible with those bodyparts, around 60-70% of max weight... The only bodyparts that i train really heavy with few reps are pecs and back, first and sometimes second excercise, and first exercise only for shoulders...

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Re: Vince Taylor, good training style to emulate
« Reply #55 on: April 01, 2014, 04:12:33 PM »
Compound movements yes, but not 6-8 range. That's not enough work for the muscles in order to stimulate muscular growth. More like 10-15 reps a set, squeezing and holding the muscle in its contracted position for about half a second each rep.

Think about it - you do say 4 exercises per body part for 3 sets of 15 reps (on average for the sake of argument) - that a total of 180 reps per body part. Half a second squeeze each rep means the muscle is in it's contracted position (time under tension) for a total of 90 seconds. Add to that the negative part of the rep which is where the muscle gets torn down and you've got yourself a proper workout where the muscles have suffered significant stimulation in order to grow back bigger (with diet and sleep of course, plus drugs if you decide to go that way).

6-8 reps in a set simply won't cut it. You'll probably get stronger that way, but not bigger.

100% agreed... except for the squeezing part... Keeping the reps fluent and just going to failure in a normal fashion within the hypertrophy rep range of 10-15 reps is the way to go.

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Re: Vince Taylor, good training style to emulate
« Reply #56 on: April 01, 2014, 04:31:30 PM »
100% agreed... except for the squeezing part... Keeping the reps fluent and just going to failure in a normal fashion within the hypertrophy rep range of 10-15 reps is the way to go.
I think mixing both the fluent reps and the second-half second squeezing can be a good combination...