First cycle stories

[Wolfox]

Share your first cycle experiences.

[Shockwave]

I got bloated as fuck and didn't retain shit.

I also didn't diet correctly, train correctly, or consistently enough.

 

[efanhowz]

i used 75mg/ml stealth prop that came in a satchet!
and i injected with a 22g!
also used winny and stopped bc of major debilitating migraines
oh the gold old days

[TEMPER]

You do not fucking "cycle" steroids...You take enough shit to shut you down once and 99% will NEVER regain 100% production again. This may not be 100% set in stone iron clad for every single person, but you have to have this mind set going in, because it is very very likely.

You do not "cycle" steroids, you start taking steroids > you make gains > you come off steroids > they disappear. Whatever you're left with you could have gotten naturally, because you're now off, and the natural levels you keep are maintaining whatever muscle you're carrying.

No one that is anyone in any strength / bb / fitness etc etc etc where juice is necessary ever comes off..EVER..They may take a damn break which usually entails 200mg+++ a week (aka TRTx3 the average man makes 10mg's a day of test..)  because their nuts are permanently fucked from the first month of their first blast...

Once your body feels a fucking GRAM of test in 1 WEEK it will NEVER produce 100% again, it's fucked.

TRT forever after. Sick of hearing this godamn word invented by 15 year olds "cycling" no one fucking comes off wake up..

[Wolfox]

You do not fucking "cycle" steroids...You take enough shit to shut you down once and 99% will NEVER regain 100% production again. This may not be 100% set in stone iron clad for every single person, but you have to have this mind set going in, because it is very very likely.

You do not "cycle" steroids, you start taking steroids > you make gains > you come off steroids > they disappear. Whatever you're left with you could have gotten naturally, because you're now off, and the natural levels you keep are maintaining whatever muscle you're carrying.

No one that is anyone in any strength / bb / fitness etc etc etc where juice is necessary ever comes off..EVER..They may take a damn break which usually entails 200mg+++ a week (aka TRTx3 the average man makes 10mg's a day of test..)  because their nuts are permanently fucked from the first month of their first blast...

Once your body feels a fucking GRAM of test in 1 WEEK it will NEVER produce 100% again, it's fucked.

TRT forever after. Sick of hearing this godamn word invented by 15 year olds "cycling" no one fucking comes off wake up..

Incorrect. Some of the strongest men and women in the world cycle steroids and go off.

As a matter of fact, the best athletes in the world cycle on and off.

They compete in the Olympics.

[oni]

Incorrect. Some of the strongest men and women in the world cycle steroids and go off.

As a matter of fact, the best athletes in the world cycle on and off.

They compete in the Olympics.

Like whom?

[Wolfox]

Like whom?

Pretty much anyone who wins a medal.

[oni]

Pretty much anyone who wins a medal.

like?

[whitewidow]

like?

ben johnson, Tim Montgomery, all Victor contes old track athletes, numerous baseball players, Pro Bodybuilders(yes some do taper off and go off cycle for a few months, not many though 10% maybe!), I somewhat believe in tapering off but I am starting to lean towards your either on or off and stay one or the other.Get your blood work done and as long as it is OK stay on at least a HRT dose of Test. I believe more in using HGH everyday forever. I think it depends on your goal in the end. But as for bodybuilding I think now you should just stay on all year for the rest of your life or till your bloodwork gets fucked up if it does at all.

I don"t think my method is a good way but I personally like to do blitz cycles and just use a great PCT and stick with your HGH during post cycle. I think 8-10 weeks can yield some great gains and you can still recover after a 8-10 week cycle, after 8-10 weeks you don't get shit for gains anyway, but if you want to get deep into gear your better off jumping in knowing you will be on it possibly for life.

[TEMPER]

ben johnson, Tim Montgomery, all Victor contes old track athletes, numerous baseball players, Pro Bodybuilders(yes some do taper off and go off cycle for a few months, not many though 10% maybe!), I somewhat believe in tapering off but I am starting to lean towards your either on or off and stay one or the other.Get your blood work done and as long as it is OK stay on at least a HRT dose of Test. I believe more in using HGH everyday forever. I think it depends on your goal in the end. But as for bodybuilding I think now you should just stay on all year for the rest of your life or till your bloodwork gets fucked up if it does at all.

I don"t think my method is a good way but I personally like to do blitz cycles and just use a great PCT and stick with your HGH during post cycle. I think 8-10 weeks can yield some great gains and you can still recover after a 8-10 week cycle, after 8-10 weeks you don't get shit for gains anyway, but if you want to get deep into gear your better off jumping in knowing you will be on it possibly for life.

Conte proclaimed that steroids actually slowed down track athletes, they made you big and strong, and slow. His big thing was that the weeks to a month or so after you come off everything, a track athlete will be at his or her peak fastest with the rebound effects and so on...He talks all about it on "The Joe Rogan Podcast" by slow he no doubt meant .03 of a second slower, but still, rofl...

Coming off shit to pass a drug test is not cycling. They immediately go right back on complete chemical warfare until they next have to take a test of some kind.

And I'm talking people who actually matter..Huge jacked strength athletes and bodybuilders...Not 180lb sprinters who gives a shit what they do, they run Winstrol etc..lol I'm talking actual steroid use (abuse) the likes of which make you huge and powerful..Men that are artificially carrying 220-400lbs year round. If they came off they would immediately begin shrinking down to nothing.

[anabolichalo]

You do not fucking "cycle" steroids...You take enough shit to shut you down once and 99% will NEVER regain 100% production again. This may not be 100% set in stone iron clad for every single person, but you have to have this mind set going in, because it is very very likely.

You do not "cycle" steroids, you start taking steroids > you make gains > you come off steroids > they disappear. Whatever you're left with you could have gotten naturally, because you're now off, and the natural levels you keep are maintaining whatever muscle you're carrying.

No one that is anyone in any strength / bb / fitness etc etc etc where juice is necessary ever comes off..EVER..They may take a damn break which usually entails 200mg+++ a week (aka TRTx3 the average man makes 10mg's a day of test..)  because their nuts are permanently fucked from the first month of their first blast...

Once your body feels a fucking GRAM of test in 1 WEEK it will NEVER produce 100% again, it's fucked.

TRT forever after. Sick of hearing this godamn word invented by 15 year olds "cycling" no one fucking comes off wake up..

so as long as u stay under a gram you can recover 100%?

[Mad-scientist]

My first cycle I got ripped off for my PCT and ended up using tribulus. I also tried to extend my cycle and get some D-bol tren and sus and got ripped off for that to. I ran my entire cycle using nolvadex because I thought it worked like a AI. It was fun to be big and enjoy it for a little while. But PCT with just triubulus was brutal.

[Wolfox]

My first cycle I got ripped off for my PCT and ended up using tribulus. I also tried to extend my cycle and get some D-bol tren and sus and got ripped off for that to. I ran my entire cycle using nolvadex because I thought it worked like a AI. It was fun to be big and enjoy it for a little while. But PCT with just triubulus was brutal.

Yeah during the PH era it pissed me off when companies peddled trib as pct.

[Mad-scientist]

lol same here it probably knocked my testosterone levels in half at the age of 19

[spiro]

First time I used tribulus it was the really good kind it came in a blue box. I was shut down hard from my first cycle. I ran Clomid and nolva for my pct. I felt absolutely miserable. I was crying and very emotional from the Clomid. It was one of the worst couple months of my life. I couldn't get hard this is before I tried all the research cialis that is out there. Well I was so desperate feeling I went to gnc and got the tribulus. I was amazed a few hours after I dosed it I started feeling way better. It worked awesome for about 6 weeks. I was just as horny as I was on cycle and blowing huge loads. It helped me maitain some weight to. I was losing it fast after doing all that Clomid and nolva. The effects kind of wore off though. If you get good trib it can be a great addition to pct.

My recommendation for guy coming of use 25mg of Clomid this smaller dose is still effective without all the miserable sides. Also do some research and get yourself a good natty test booster. I would also have something like igf-1 lr3 to help with pumps and fullness.

[galeniko]

You do not fucking "cycle" steroids...You take enough shit to shut you down once and 99% will NEVER regain 100% production again. This may not be 100% set in stone iron clad for every single person, but you have to have this mind set going in, because it is very very likely.

You do not "cycle" steroids, you start taking steroids > you make gains > you come off steroids > they disappear. Whatever you're left with you could have gotten naturally, because you're now off, and the natural levels you keep are maintaining whatever muscle you're carrying.

No one that is anyone in any strength / bb / fitness etc etc etc where juice is necessary ever comes off..EVER..They may take a damn break which usually entails 200mg+++ a week (aka TRTx3 the average man makes 10mg's a day of test..)  because their nuts are permanently fucked from the first month of their first blast...

Once your body feels a fucking GRAM of test in 1 WEEK it will NEVER produce 100% again, it's fucked.

TRT forever after. Sick of hearing this godamn word invented by 15 year olds "cycling" no one fucking comes off wake up..

relax, when i was 20 aged a gramm was my baseline, went off entirel cold turkey no pct, all good after few months, no full recovery, but good enough, on the lower end of whats normal.

besides, ofc theres ppl who go off, they even go off training.

namely one competitor who competed at the arnolds recently, he doesnt even train,let alone juice.

and uhm a 3times amateur world champ, he don t even touch a weight 6mth of the year.

these i know for fact 100%.

and uhm levrone, didnt he do the same.

but yeah full recovery never happens and the gains you can kiss good bye obviously

[Dago_Joe]

relax, when i was 20 aged a gramm was my baseline, went off entirel cold turkey no pct, all good after few months, no full recovery, but good enough, on the lower end of whats normal.

besides, ofc theres ppl who go off, they even go off training.

namely one competitor who competed at the arnolds recently, he doesnt even train,let alone juice.

and uhm a 3times amateur world champ, he don t even touch a weight 6mth of the year.

these i know for fact 100%.

and uhm levrone, didnt he do the same.

but yeah full recovery never happens and the gains you can kiss good bye obviously

This.  Levrone was well know for not training for months and months and definitely not blasting gear. Lee Haney was rumored to do this too.  Those two guys basically competed in the Olympia only and had huge sponsorship so no need to do millions of guest posings.  The 70's bodybuilders also did this same routine.  Trained and juiced only in the months leading up to the Olympia or the Universe shows.