Im Fat Thats No Secret

[Roger Bacon]

I made this last week for the second time.  Bourbon Banana Crisp.  Bananas drenched in brown sugar and Whiskey with a walnut and oat topping.

What kind of whiskey?

Do you drink at all TA?

[BigRo]

These people are steeped in Bro Science and roids, what do you expect?  They really have no clue what the Natural body building world does.  Its pretty amusing actually.  Of course they will just claim that the top naturals, eating whatever they want are juicing. 

Their bro-science sickens me.

your know it all attitude sickens me, I have competed successfully naturally and enhanced, I would look far from my best just making up a certain amount of calories with whatever tickled my tastebuds, Fucking gay diet like you.

[Skorp1o]

TA's diet protocol spits in the face of the low GI approach, I take long breaks off gear, 6 months at a time and longer, so my conclusion is based on normal unassisted hormonal levels. When I eat reasonable and keep my GI stable by avoiding sugars and fruits and sticking with brown rice and the like with low fat and clean proteins, I maintain very well my bf stays sub 10% and my shape keeps in comparison to when I was at my peak in cycle (bare in mind I'm a low dose pusher 1ml test+1ml mast once a week is my protocol)

However, usually around 3 months later I slip up and start indulging, although my calory intake is even lower as Im eating less frequently, I lose muscle definition and the waist line starts to look like shit.

The above happens and has been a yearly occurence in my life for the past 15 years....based on this, I do not believe a calorie is a calorie. I could eat 3000cals a day derived from brown rice and grilled chicken, for 3 months and be leaner and bigger than if I ate 2400cals derived from bananas, whiskey and coated sugar with deep fried cat fish and french fries.

I'm not trying to be disrespcetful here, I just strongly disagree with that theory and I think many who might follow it will end up dissapointed and wasting their time. Not only that, it is not a healthy recommendation...low fat, controleld GI is far healthier.

[bigmc]

how about josh follows the Adonis principles

and knooger does the no one galeniko diet

as they are roughly the same weight

it would be a good comparison

[Wolfox]

TA's diet protocol spits in the face of the low GI approach, I take long breaks off gear, 6 months at a time and longer, so my conclusion is based on normal unassisted hormonal levels. When I eat reasonable and keep my GI stable by avoiding sugars and fruits and sticking with brown rice and the like with low fat and clean proteins, I maintain very well my bf stays sub 10% and my shape keeps in comparison to when I was at my peak in cycle (bare in mind I'm a low dose pusher 1ml test+1ml mast once a week is my protocol)

However, usually around 3 months later I slip up and start indulging, although my calory intake is even lower as Im eating less frequently, I lose muscle definition and the waist line starts to look like shit.

The above happens and has been a yearly occurence in my life for the past 15 years....based on this, I do not believe a calorie is a calorie. I could eat 3000cals a day derived from brown rice and grilled chicken, for 3 months and be leaner and bigger than if I ate 2400cals derived from bananas, whiskey and coated sugar with deep fried cat fish and french fries.

I'm not trying to be disrespcetful here, I just strongly disagree with that theory and I think many who might follow it will end up dissapointed and wasting their time. Not only that, it is not a healthy recommendation...low fat, controleld GI is far healthier.

Dude, GI? Seriously bro? The validity of the GI has been bitch slapped and put down for like 10 years now. It was all the crazy back in the days tho. Then its real world application was called into question.

[Skorp1o]

Dude, GI? Seriously bro? The validity of the GI has been bitch slapped and put down for like 10 years now.

<----Look at me....and now look at you, do you see where I'm coming from?

You're saying its a good a good idea to slap a chocolate cake after you ate a bolognese....well that explains why we never saw a shirltess picture of yourself then doesn't it?

[Wolfox]

<----Look at me....and now look at you, do you see where I'm coming from?

You're saying its a good a good idea to slap a chocolate cake after you ate a bolognese....well that explains why we never saw a shirltess picture of yourself then doesn't it?

Are you sure you wanna go there? Because if that's the best you could do with 15 years of working out and steroids ill just be nice and say im not impressed.

Regardless of any of that, your GI theory is bullshit. That's just a fact. And that's what matters most.

Just curious, are you still on the waxy maize craze too?

[dr.chimps]

Hey, fatboy. Do this and I'll throw a C-note at my local humane society in your name.      

[bigmc]

<----Look at me....and now look at you, do you see where I'm coming from?

You're saying its a good a good idea to slap a chocolate cake after you ate a bolognese....well that explains why we never saw a shirltess picture of yourself then doesn't it?

just ignore him

he is an expert on everything

but his results equal nothing

[Skorp1o]

Are you sure you wanna go there? Because if that's the best you could do with 15 years of working out and steroids ill just be nice and say in not impressed.

Regardless of any of that, your GI theory is bullshit. That's just a fact. And that's what matters most.

Just curious, are you still on the waxy maize craze too?

My goal is to stay in shape year in year out and hit sub 7% and stay within a healthy body weight. Not to get as big as I can handle

Low AAS usage with long breaks,BP and bloods confirm all is in perfect order...I'm in the game for the long run...to be lean and healthy in my 50's...you're saying that i should be big & impressive by now does not tie in with my goals.

My GI theory works for me, I don't like spiking up my sugar levels daily and then crashing. Perhaps you look like shit because your theories don't work, mine deliver what I am expecting.

[Skorp1o]

just ignore him

he is an expert on everything

but his results equal nothing

Yes, I'm done discussing nonsense with him.

[Kim Jong Bob]

your know it all attitude sickens me, I have competed successfully naturally and enhanced, I would look far from my best just making up a certain amount of calories with whatever tickled my tastebuds, Fucking gay diet like you.

you forgot to write no homo after "i have competed naturally"

[bigmc]

you forgot to write no homo after "i have competed naturally"

haha

[O.Z.]

how about josh follows the Adonis principles

and knooger does the no one galeniko diet

as they are roughly the same weight

it would be a good comparison

There is no comparison. Low calories keto diet brings the best results in shortest period of time. Very tough mentally but worthwhile.

[Skorp1o]

There is no comparison. Low calories keto diet brings the best results in shortest period of time. Very tough mentally but worthwhile.

^ This

No contest

[visualizeperfection]

Are you sure you wanna go there? Because if that's the best you could do with 15 years of working out and steroids ill just be nice and say im not impressed.

Regardless of any of that, your GI theory is bullshit. That's just a fact. And that's what matters most.

Just curious, are you still on the waxy maize craze too?

Its a lot more than what the food does directly.

Insulin and blood sure manipulation due to high GI carbs can be diet enders. Lower GI carbs keep you full for longer, also beneficial for dieting.

Not even trying to stir the pot or create drama, but in all honestly Wolfox, have you EVER dieted or been at least moderately lean??

And im not even talking Gal lean (I already know the answer to that) I mean under 12% or so with a full set of abs.

[chaos]

Skorp1o > the armless wonder.

[Knooger]

Knooger, can you do this for the first 3 weeks, (Prep Phase)?

WEEKS 1 – 3 (Prep Phase)


 
Monday – Chest & Triceps

 

    Incline Barbell Press 4 sets x 15,12,10,8

    Barbell Flat Bench 4 sets x 12,10,8,8

    Incline Dumbbell Fly 4 sets x 10

    Chest Dips (body weight) 4 sets x 15 reps

    Standing French Press 4 sets x 12 reps

    Dumbbell Kickbacks 3 sets x 10 reps

 
Tuesday – Back & Biceps

 

    Deadlift 4 sets x 20,15,12,10

    Pull-Ups 4 sets x 12 reps

    Single Arm Dumbbell Row 4 sets x 10 reps

    Underhand Barbell Row 4 sets x 12,10,8,8

    Incline Dumbbell Curl 3 sets x 10 reps

    Preacher Curl 3 sets x 10 reps

 
Wednesday – Legs & Calves

 

    Squats 4 sets x 15,12,10,8

    Walking Lunges 3 x 10 steps (each way)

    Leg Press 4 sets x 12,10,8,8

    Standing Leg Curls (machine) 4 sets x 12 reps

    Seated Calf Raise 5 sets x 15 reps

 
Thursday – Shoulders & Trapezius

 

    Overhead Press 4 sets x 15,12,10,8

    Upright Row 4 sets x 12,10,8,8

    Dumbbell Lateral Raise 4 x 10 reps

    Face Pulls (rope) 4 sets x 12 reps

    Barbell Shrugs 5 sets x 12 reps

Will do, I'll make modifications where I have to.

[wes]

Adam,here`s a few things you may want to consider regarding your workout routine brother:

1.-There`s no way that these guys are gonna` be able to do chinups or dips.............not for those kind of reps anyway.

2.- Also,that`s a lot of volume......I`d start with less sets and reps personally as these guys are clearly not in shape and will be ultra-sore as well as in danger of injury,then build up total volume as their conditioning improves.

3.- IMO,it would be better for them to work one bodypart over a 6 day period with one day of rest.......this way they are burning calories each day other than their one rest day,thus resulting in more calories burned per week.

4.-I`d finish off with the cardio of their choice and based on their fitness level,I`d keep it low intensity until they achieve better conditioning.

Just some thoughts,I`m not trying to be an interfering prick. 

[ismoseppo]

Hey, fatboy. Do this and I'll throw a C-note at my local humane society in your name.      

Lol..Fatboy....good deal.   

[bigmc]

Adam,here`s a few things you may want to consider regarding your workout routine brother:

1.-There`s no way that these guys are gonna` be able to do chinups or dips.............not for those kind of reps anyway.

2.- Also,that`s a lot of volume......I`d start with less sets and reps personally as these guys are clearly not in shape and will be ultra-sore as well as in danger of injury,then build up total volume as their conditioning improves.

3.- IMO,it would be better for them to work one bodypart over a 6 day period with one day of rest.......this way they are burning calories each day other than their one rest day,thus resulting in more calories burned per week.

4.-I`d finish off with the cardio of their choice and based on their fitness level,I`d keep it low intensity until they achieve better conditioning.

Just some thoughts,I`m not trying to be an interfering prick. 

ta is full of shit

his routine is bullshit

his diet is bull shit

he hasn't been in shape for 6 years

[wes]

Its a lot more than what the food does directly.

Insulin and blood sure manipulation due to high GI carbs can be diet enders. Lower GI carbs keep you full for longer, also beneficial for dieting.

Not even trying to stir the pot or create drama, but in all honestly Wolfox, have you EVER dieted or been at least moderately lean??

And im not even talking Gal lean (I already know the answer to that) I mean under 12% or so with a full set of abs.

Fuck the GI,it is of no consequence at all.....think in terms of simple and complex carbs.

The GI of any carb is nullified dramatically when combined with protein and/or fat.

[wes]

ta is full of shit

his routine is bullshit

his diet is bull shit

he hasn't been in shape for 6 years

C`mon,his current pics look great. 

[bigmc]

C`mon,his current pics look great. 

they are all at least 6 years old

he posted that routine to make it look like he trains hardcore

someone seen him from here a while ago he is tiny

he is trolling

[Simple Simon]

ta is full of shit

his routine is bullshit

his diet is bull shit

he hasn't been in shape for 6 years

this

Guys an asshole, he's never really been in shape.