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Re: 10,000 cals a day?????
« Reply #125 on: April 01, 2014, 02:23:53 PM »
I would lay off the Obese people really.

What happens then is, food manufactures decide to charge you more for less calories and eliminate options that were once great.  Gone are the good old days when you could King Size, Biggie Size or Super Size a fry and get a shit load.  Now I am forced to eat a "large" fry that is the size of a small fry in reality.  I weighed them last time and the grams equaled a small fry from 5 years ago and the price increased.

Lay off the fat people!  It hurts all of us in the long run!

Seriously mate, you need to get a job, you have way too much time on your hands.

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« Reply #126 on: April 01, 2014, 02:32:25 PM »
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« Reply #127 on: April 01, 2014, 03:08:12 PM »
10, 000 CALS A DAY???


WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO EAT THAT MUCH????


NO NEED TO EAT 5,000 CALS A DAY!!!


HELL......DORIAN ATE 5,500 IN THE OFFSEASON......AND AROUND 4,500 PRE CONTEST.


Mentzer ate far less calories!!!!

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« Reply #128 on: April 01, 2014, 03:11:55 PM »
10, 000 CALS A DAY???


WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO EAT THAT MUCH????


NO NEED TO EAT 5,000 CALS A DAY!!!


HELL......DORIAN ATE 5,500 IN THE OFFSEASON......AND AROUND 4,500 PRE CONTEST.


Mentzer ate far less calories!!!!

Yates was already big, when he started eating that much. That may be more of a maintenance thing for him. Mike Francois went on that super-high calorie diet for a couple of years, until he got to 265 (offseason) or 230 (contest). Then, he dropped to 4000 to 5000, to maintain or put on mass at a slower pace.

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« Reply #129 on: April 01, 2014, 03:13:59 PM »
bro.......yates never ate more than this......it is in his book!

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« Reply #130 on: April 01, 2014, 03:16:43 PM »
Yates was already big, when he started eating that much. That may be more of a maintenance thing for him. Mike Francois went on that super-high calorie diet for a couple of years, until he got to 265 (offseason) or 230 (contest). Then, he dropped to 4000 to 5000, to maintain or put on mass at a slower pace.
francois developed colitis.......also...... jim Quinn got quite big eating far less cals.....as did vince taylor......and robby robinson never came close to eating anywhere near 10,000 cals......robby probably ate no more than 3,500 cals a day.



you don't need 10,000 cals and 20-30 sets to grow!!!!

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« Reply #131 on: April 02, 2014, 12:07:37 AM »
Yates was already big, when he started eating that much. That may be more of a maintenance thing for him. Mike Francois went on that super-high calorie diet for a couple of years, until he got to 265 (offseason) or 230 (contest). Then, he dropped to 4000 to 5000, to maintain or put on mass at a slower pace.

You kep writing this claiming it to be fact, you have no idea if its true.
Vic Richards used to claim 30,000 cals a day, do you believe him?

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Re: 10,000 cals a day?????
« Reply #132 on: April 02, 2014, 03:50:49 AM »
I blame all of this bullshit on Weider and Vic Richards with that "30,000 calories a day" bullshit. Imagine what 30,000 cals looks like in chicken and rice. Fucking absurd.

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« Reply #133 on: April 02, 2014, 10:46:39 AM »
the only guy that might have eaten 10,000 cals a day would be greg kovacs.......maybe!!!!!!!!!!!!



other than that......most dudes probably eat 5000-6000 cals a day.


gaspari told me personally that he ate 4500 cals a day and then dropped down to 3500-3800 leading up to a show.


and that was back in 1996 when he made his return to the stage.


and he was at his heaviest back then......225 or so on stage.

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« Reply #134 on: April 02, 2014, 02:15:19 PM »
You kep writing this claiming it to be fact, you have no idea if its true.
Vic Richards used to claim 30,000 cals a day, do you believe him?

Richards clarified that statement when asked on a subsequent interview. He stated he ate that on one particular day, at a party or festival where there was a lot of fatty African food.

"First to clarify this statement: I have never said I consume 30,000 calories daily. My statement was taken out of context by a major magazine's quack editor who wanted to make a name for himself by creating a controversy. His original question was, 'What is the most calories you've ever consumed in a day?' I answered that I had once consumed close to 30,000 calories when I ate Carribean and African cuisine which can be extremely high in calories. I have never claimed to eat 30,000 calories on a daily basis."

http://www.trulyhuge.com/victor-richards.html

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« Reply #135 on: April 02, 2014, 02:19:28 PM »
francois developed colitis.......also...... jim Quinn got quite big eating far less cals.....as did vince taylor......and robby robinson never came close to eating anywhere near 10,000 cals......robby probably ate no more than 3,500 cals a day.



you don't need 10,000 cals and 20-30 sets to grow!!!!

That's the reason you often see the words, 'up to', next to that number.

You don't need that much; I don't need that much. But, others may, including people like Francois.


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« Reply #136 on: April 02, 2014, 02:20:44 PM »
That's the reason you often see the words, 'up to', next to that number.

You don't need that much; I don't need that much. But, others may, including people like Francois.


no my friend......no one needs that many cals per day.


lee haney certainly didn't!

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« Reply #137 on: April 02, 2014, 03:27:49 PM »
In the early 90's I bought a book 'High-Performance Bodybuilding' by John Parrillo which advocated eating upwards of 10,000 calories a day spread over 5-6 meals.  The food was supposed to be non-processed and clean.  i.e. chicken, fish, lean beef, veggies.  He also advocated using a lot of Medium Chain Triglyceride (MCT) on a daily basis. It was touted as a way to increase metabolism, muscle while losing bodyfat.   I was able to stick to eating 8-10,000 calories a day for about 3 weeks before I got sick of eating so much and so often.  It got to the point where just looking at a piece of skinless chicken on the end of my fork made me want to gag.  With the requirement to eat veggies at every meal along with protein and MCT oil, I was a farting machine.   My girlfriend at the time commented that I was farting so much from all the food that I smelled like a barnyard.   My lifts went up.  I got bigger.  But constantly walking around with a belly full of food was not fun.  Neither was the anxiety of preparing meals or the grocery bills for all the food.

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« Reply #138 on: April 02, 2014, 09:05:43 PM »
no my friend......no one needs that many cals per day.


lee haney certainly didn't!

You aren't Lee Haney; neither am I; and neither are people like Francois.

In the early 90's I bought a book 'High-Performance Bodybuilding' by John Parrillo which advocated eating upwards of 10,000 calories a day spread over 5-6 meals.  The food was supposed to be non-processed and clean.  i.e. chicken, fish, lean beef, veggies.  He also advocated using a lot of Medium Chain Triglyceride (MCT) on a daily basis. It was touted as a way to increase metabolism, muscle while losing bodyfat.   I was able to stick to eating 8-10,000 calories a day for about 3 weeks before I got sick of eating so much and so often.  It got to the point where just looking at a piece of skinless chicken on the end of my fork made me want to gag.  With the requirement to eat veggies at every meal along with protein and MCT oil, I was a farting machine.   My girlfriend at the time commented that I was farting so much from all the food that I smelled like a barnyard.   My lifts went up.  I got bigger.  But constantly walking around with a belly full of food was not fun.  Neither was the anxiety of preparing meals or the grocery bills for all the food.

I thought the MCTs were to help you get to 10,000 calories. MCTs were touted as fats that burn like carbs, 8.8 calories per gram, I believe.
I didn't intake that many calories years ago; but I know how you feel. With my shakes, I often felt my mug/shaker was bottomless. 4000 calories down; I'm feeling bloated; yet, I got 1500-2000 to go.

The irony was that, no matter how stuffed I was going to sleep, I was RAVENOUS when I woke up. Half the time, my growling stomach would wake me up before my alarm did. It felt as if I hadn't eaten in days.

I don't miss that part at all; but, it was worth it as I exceeded my size and strength goals.

John Parillo was the man who pushed these super high-calorie diets, along with intense training and fascia stretching for serious mass. Like other trainers and dietary gurus, some thought he was a genius while others deemed him nuts. Do you know about a guy named Greg Greenzalis? He's identified as the trainer (and Parillo disciple) who put Mike Francois on the diet that helped supersize him.

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Re: 10,000 cals a day?????
« Reply #139 on: April 02, 2014, 10:38:47 PM »
That's the reason you often see the words, 'up to', next to that number.

You don't need that much; I don't need that much. But, others may, including people like Francois.



So you heard of one bodybuilder who allegedly ate 10, 000 calories for months on end, and you believe him?  Has the thought that he may not have been truthful or accurate in his claims crossed your mind?   

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« Reply #140 on: April 03, 2014, 11:00:27 AM »
So you heard of one bodybuilder who allegedly ate 10, 000 calories for months on end, and you believe him?  Has the thought that he may not have been truthful or accurate in his claims crossed your mind?   

I've heard of way more than one bodybuilder eating that much. Mike Francois was simply one of my favorites. Reading about his (and other bodybuilders') diet is how I designed my own, back in college. It worked well for me, particularly in '96 (though I 'only' had to go to the 5000-calorie range).

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« Reply #141 on: April 03, 2014, 02:48:22 PM »
You aren't Lee Haney; neither am I; and neither are people like Francois.

I thought the MCTs were to help you get to 10,000 calories. MCTs were touted as fats that burn like carbs, 8.8 calories per gram, I believe.
I didn't intake that many calories years ago; but I know how you feel. With my shakes, I often felt my mug/shaker was bottomless. 4000 calories down; I'm feeling bloated; yet, I got 1500-2000 to go.

The irony was that, no matter how stuffed I was going to sleep, I was RAVENOUS when I woke up. Half the time, my growling stomach would wake me up before my alarm did. It felt as if I hadn't eaten in days.

I don't miss that part at all; but, it was worth it as I exceeded my size and strength goals.

John Parillo was the man who pushed these super high-calorie diets, along with intense training and fascia stretching for serious mass. Like other trainers and dietary gurus, some thought he was a genius while others deemed him nuts. Do you know about a guy named Greg Greenzalis? He's identified as the trainer (and Parillo disciple) who put Mike Francois on the diet that helped supersize him.
dude.....I don't care if you are genetically gifted or not.......hard gainer or not......no one needs that many cals.......all you are doing is fucking up your stomach.

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Re: 10,000 cals a day?????
« Reply #142 on: April 03, 2014, 02:55:06 PM »
Each servings of russian bear 5000 weight gainer contains 5000 calories  391 grams of carbs and 184 grams of protein so just have two servings daily and you will hit your goal.

http://www.gnc.com/pwr/product-reviews/Other/VITAL-PRODUCTS/p/3744570-Vitol-Russian-Bear-5000-Ice-Cream-Chocolate.html

Serving Size5Scoops(approx. 635gm)
Servings Per Container~3
Calories   2600   
Protein   184GM   
Carbohydrates   391GM   
Medium Chain Triglycerides (MCT)   46GM   
Fat   0GM

Notice that a 4lb tub only yields 3 servings.  You could take the $10-$12 that each serving costs and get better calories from real food.

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Re: 10,000 cals a day?????
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Last Updated: Nov 22, 2011 | By Amanda White

During the 2008 Summer Olympics, American swimming star Michael Phelps shared his typical Olympic diet. While it’s astounding to hear this total and realize how much food he’s really eating, it’s important to consider how many calories he was burning daily as well as his age and athletic ability.
Calories Eaten

In an interview with NBC Sports, Phelps said he ate approximately 12,000 calories per day during the 2008 Summer Olympics. This included a breakfast of three fried egg sandwiches, a five-egg omelet, three pieces of French toast, three pancakes and grits. Lunch was typically a pound of pasta and two sandwiches. For dinner, he would eat an entire large pizza and a pound of pasta.

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Last Updated: Nov 22, 2011 | By Amanda White

During the 2008 Summer Olympics, American swimming star Michael Phelps shared his typical Olympic diet. While it’s astounding to hear this total and realize how much food he’s really eating, it’s important to consider how many calories he was burning daily as well as his age and athletic ability.
Calories Eaten

In an interview with NBC Sports, Phelps said he ate approximately 12,000 calories per day during the 2008 Summer Olympics. This included a breakfast of three fried egg sandwiches, a five-egg omelet, three pieces of French toast, three pancakes and grits. Lunch was typically a pound of pasta and two sandwiches. For dinner, he would eat an entire large pizza and a pound of pasta.

Michael Phelps actually big frame at 6'4 and I'm sure he exerts alot of energy in the pool but damn, 12k calories??

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« Reply #145 on: April 03, 2014, 04:00:17 PM »
phelps is a fantastic swimmer......world class all the way......but he doesn't eat 12,000 cals.

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« Reply #146 on: April 03, 2014, 04:12:10 PM »


i wouldnt doubt phelps actually ate 12k cals on some non training days, but unless you have had 10k cals worth of food in your body repetitively you'd understand how hard it is do any kind of activity, let alone train as an olympic calibre athlete.

fuck i couldnt even bend over comfortably to put my shoes on- and this guy is eating more and breaking world records in practice? gimme a break. lol
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« Reply #147 on: April 03, 2014, 04:13:50 PM »
Maybe Phelps drank olive oil.

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« Reply #148 on: April 03, 2014, 06:41:13 PM »

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« Reply #149 on: April 03, 2014, 08:07:22 PM »
Serving Size5Scoops(approx. 635gm)
Servings Per Container~3
Calories   2600   
Protein   184GM   
Carbohydrates   391GM   
Medium Chain Triglycerides (MCT)   46GM   
Fat   0GM

Notice that a 4lb tub only yields 3 servings.  You could take the $10-$12 that each serving costs and get better calories from real food.

I believe the one "serving" was supposed to be taken throughout the day. 2600 calories divided into 3-4 portions is about 620 to 870 calories a shot, yielding 42 - 61 grams of protein a drink. That sounds far more reasonable.