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« Reply #4500 on: November 12, 2017, 11:38:30 PM »

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« Reply #4501 on: November 12, 2017, 11:41:58 PM »

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« Reply #4502 on: November 12, 2017, 11:56:53 PM »

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Did Arnold extensively used Esiclene?
Most of the time his waist-delt differential was less than impressive, but contest time he came up with impressive delt caps and good width...
He said his delts were never strong point, but aside from sloped shoulders he had amazing shoulder width and fullness in contest time...
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« Reply #4503 on: November 13, 2017, 04:43:29 AM »

Did Arnold extensively used Esiclene?
Most of the time his waist-delt differential was less than impressive, but contest time he came up with impressive delt caps and good width...
He said his delts were never strong point, but aside from sloped shoulders he had amazing shoulder width and fullness in contest time...

Nope.  He simply took d-bol, primo (and probably parabolan) and trained like a maniac 3 months before the contest.  During this time, his transformations were incredible... like someone filled his muscles up with an air hose.
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« Reply #4504 on: November 13, 2017, 06:43:33 AM »

Did Arnold extensively used Esiclene?
Most of the time his waist-delt differential was less than impressive, but contest time he came up with impressive delt caps and good width...
He said his delts were never strong point, but aside from sloped shoulders he had amazing shoulder width and fullness in contest time...

Escilene wasn't around in the '70's, neither was GH, insulin or synthol.
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« Reply #4505 on: November 13, 2017, 07:16:50 AM »

Escilene wasn't around in the '70's, neither was GH, insulin or synthol.


Wrong -- GH was being used in the 50's ( pituitary ) & DNA from the late 70's
Insulin usage since the 1920's
Esicline - Formebolne - was know about in the 70's, it is a steroid

Correct - Synthol came in the mid 90's

Also I wouldn't be surprised if the use of inject-able silicone wasn't used
as Japanese women had been injecting it in to their breasts to enlarge them since
the 50's to please the liking of bigger breasts of the American service men.
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« Reply #4506 on: November 13, 2017, 07:19:03 AM »


Wrong -- GH was being used in the 50's ( pituitary ) & DNA from the late 70's
Insulin usage since the 1920's
Esicline - Formebolne - was know about in the 70's, it is a steroid

Correct - Synthol came in the mid 90's

Beat me to it...

Re insulin as a BBing drug, who was the first to coin it's usage?
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« Reply #4507 on: November 13, 2017, 07:26:17 AM »

Beat me to it...

Re insulin as a BBing drug, who was the first to coin it's usage?

Re insulin as a BBing drug, who was the first to coin it's usage?

Hmmm at a Guess Tim Belknap ?
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« Reply #4508 on: November 13, 2017, 07:29:40 AM »

Re insulin as a BBing drug, who was the first to coin it's usage?

Hmmm at a Guess Tim Belknap ?


Fair comment,

I did a google search and an enhanced athlete video came up.....end of that search!

Belkamp was 80's correct?  Duchaine popularised it though, yeah? 
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« Reply #4509 on: November 13, 2017, 07:34:00 AM »

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« Reply #4510 on: November 13, 2017, 08:05:58 AM »

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« Reply #4511 on: November 13, 2017, 10:14:25 AM »

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« Reply #4512 on: November 13, 2017, 10:29:37 AM »


Wrong -- GH was being used in the 50's ( pituitary ) & DNA from the late 70's
Insulin usage since the 1920's
Esicline - Formebolne - was know about in the 70's, it is a steroid

Correct - Synthol came in the mid 90's

Also I wouldn't be surprised if the use of inject-able silicone wasn't used
as Japanese women had been injecting it in to their breasts to enlarge them since
the 50's to please the liking of bigger breasts of the American service men.

I know it's hard for younger guys to comprehend but GH wasn't used for bodybuilding in the 70's and insulin was unheard of for making muscular gains. Almost all bodybuilders of the 70's that I knew never would even touch straight testosterone. The some of the commonly used drugs of the day and excuse my spelling was dianabol, Anadrol 50, Anavar, Winstrol, Winstrol V, Equipose, Deca, and plain Durablin. Never heard of anyone using growth hormone from cadavers in the 70's. It wasn't made synthetically till the 80's I believe. It was insanely expensive and also the possibility of being infected with disease.  Insulin and Growth was first being whispered about in the early 80's.

One of things about the drugs of today is that they are being made on the black market. Who really knows what in those vials made with counterfeit labels, inserts and boxes?  Could be contaminated and the formula changing from batch to batch.
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« Reply #4513 on: November 13, 2017, 11:24:31 AM »

People only talk about the 1981 Olympia robbery ....


but this Franco version (prior leg injury) would've prevented Zane from winning the following years






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« Reply #4514 on: November 13, 2017, 01:55:20 PM »

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« Reply #4515 on: November 13, 2017, 08:23:22 PM »

I know it's hard for younger guys to comprehend but GH wasn't used for bodybuilding in the 70's and insulin was unheard of for making muscular gains. Almost all bodybuilders of the 70's that I knew never would even touch straight testosterone. The some of the commonly used drugs of the day and excuse my spelling was dianabol, Anadrol 50, Anavar, Winstrol, Winstrol V, Equipose, Deca, and plain Durablin. Never heard of anyone using growth hormone from cadavers in the 70's. It wasn't made synthetically till the 80's I believe. It was insanely expensive and also the possibility of being infected with disease.  Insulin and Growth was first being whispered about in the early 80's.

One of things about the drugs of today is that they are being made on the black market. Who really knows what in those vials made with counterfeit labels, inserts and boxes?  Could be contaminated and the formula changing from batch to batch.


QFT. People are so jaded now that it's impossible to believe that actual weight training and diet, along with the right genetics, can produce a great physique. I'm sure Arnold today would be accused of using synthol on his bicep to get that incredible peak. Many insist that he even had pec implants when you can clearly see that his pecs were always a strong point even in his teens. And calf implants? Even today calf implants don't look even remotely as real as Arnold's real calves (that have shrunk in size with age and no training. Of course, the retort is that he had them removed. Yeah, sure he did).

And even assuming those exotic products were around that doesn't mean it was in common use. Availability, cost, along with the knowledge and desire to use those products just weren't there at the time. OT is right that even Test wasn't used by most bbers at the time let alone being the "base" of all cycles as considered today though it was widely available. When I asked Dr. Walzak at the time about Test he told that the whole point of anabolic steroids was to be a refinement of testosterone where the anabolic properties are enhanced and the androgenic (meant at the time to refer to the male sexual characteristics) were minimized. He believed at the time, as did most, that it wasn't as effective and had more side effects.

I'm sure some, if not a lot, of bbers at the time used Test but it was usually because it was cheaper and available rather than considered more effective but I never knew any that did. And people were pretty open about their use if you were a familiar face and they readily admitted to using Deca and dbol which were the bread and butter at the time but I never heard Test mentioned.
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« Reply #4516 on: November 13, 2017, 09:45:18 PM »

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« Reply #4517 on: November 13, 2017, 10:44:07 PM »

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« Reply #4518 on: November 13, 2017, 10:44:40 PM »

Fair comment,

I did a google search and an enhanced athlete video came up.....end of that search!

Belkamp was 80's correct?  Duchaine popularised it though, yeah? 

Belknap was a diabetic - from memory he was the 1st combine his insulin usage to help build his physique

Dan was way ahead of his time.
Very often his ideas were copied or slightly modified by others & then claimed as their own ideas.
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« Reply #4519 on: November 14, 2017, 02:22:21 PM »

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« Reply #4520 on: November 15, 2017, 08:55:00 AM »

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« Reply #4521 on: November 18, 2017, 08:26:10 AM »

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« Reply #4522 on: November 18, 2017, 08:38:16 PM »

is this pic altered?
AS looks "short" (like his entire image was shrunk just a bit)



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« Reply #4523 on: November 18, 2017, 11:33:24 PM »

is this pic altered?
AS looks "short" (like his entire image was shrunk just a bit)

it's good for me, Reg is also a tall guy


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« Reply #4524 on: November 19, 2017, 10:48:30 AM »

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