Steroid Myths #1... all u gotta do is take more and you'll be a freak.

[ESFitness]

I can see how some people may still believe this.. guys who are new to steroids or who've never used steroids.

it doesn't matter HOW MUCH steroids you take; if you don't take in enough kcals you're not gonna be a 'freak' size-wise.

at best, the increased dose (be it 2g, 4g, 6g, even 8 or 10g) will give a different "look/quality" to your physique. meaning you'll be leaner, harder, more vascular, more separated, more grainy, but you're not gonna be 290 at 6ft, or 270 at 5'9" if your nutrition isn't spot on.. or even close to being spot on.

if you're using 3-6g/wk and you're only taking in 2-2.5k kcals and maybe 150g protein, you're not gonna be a freak.

what's so hard to understand about that?

more steroids does not equal more muscle, in the absence of adequate kcals... as well as the proper pro/carb/fat amounts for YOUR BODY. each body is different, and each body changes.

[jude2]

That is not a myth here. The guys here are all gurus. We all have a 5'7 200# bloated dude in our guys who take 6-8 grams and they are already maxed out.

[Shockwave]

I thought this was common sense/common knowledge.

juice+excess calories = build muscle

juice+caloric surplus = lose fat retain muscle

[Wolfox]

Halo will continue eating plain chicken and rice being shredded and then complain about not making gains and needing to up the dosage. 

[njflex]

Halo will continue eating plain chicken and rice being shredded and then complain about not making gains and needing to up the dosage. 

he should be happy with that..he's not competing,,

[The True Adonis]

I don`t know anything about what steroid users can get away with or need, but lifetime naturals can continue to gain muscle in a caloric deficit.

[Cal_Lifter]

This post is kinda ironic in that you in particular preach taking higher dose cycles relative to other members. For example, there was a recent post where you stated 4 grams a week seemed normal for a first cycle.

Granted...I know the focus of this thread is on food intake.

[no one]

I don`t know anything about what steroid users can get away with or need, but lifetime naturals can continue to gain muscle in a caloric deficit.

I've called this ESFitness guy out so many times w his bullshit I don't even bother anymore

'your nutrition has to be spot on' 'eat big to get big' blah blah blah.

it's this simple in the chemical world when taking anabolics-  take in enough protein to grow. nobody needs 400grams a day I don't care what the fuck your taking. take in enough fats or carbs for fuel.

that's it.

and I totally agree you can grow in a deficit. this guy has no fucking clue what he's talking about.

[Antonio fella]

It makes sense and good post by OP...

2-3-4-...-6g of gear - appetite also will be higher thus eating more won't be a problemo

[ESFitness]

This post is kinda ironic in that you in particular preach taking higher dose cycles relative to other members. For example, there was a recent post where you stated 4 grams a week seemed normal for a first cycle.

Granted...I know the focus of this thread is on food intake.

I didn't say 'normal'. I said it was acceptable.. I also said there probably isn't much need to go over 4g. 4g is acceptable for every cycle.

grow on 4g, diet on 4g.. the only difference is the diet.

[ESFitness]

I've called this ESFitness guy out so many times w his bullshit I don't even bother anymore

'your nutrition has to be spot on' 'eat big to get big' blah blah blah.

it's this simple in the chemical world when taking anabolics-  take in enough protein to grow. nobody needs 400grams a day I don't care what the fuck your taking. take in enough fats or carbs for fuel.

that's it.

and I totally agree you can grow in a deficit. this guy has no fucking clue what he's talking about.

lol.. typical getbig loser response.... putting words in my mouth/attributing quotes to me.

you really are a fucking moron.

you expect somebody who's a natural 180lbs, to maintain 270lbs while eating 2000 kcals a day just because of how much steroids/ped's he takes?

for somebody who's considered "knowledgeable" on here, you're a fucking moron.

[Wolfox]

This post is kinda ironic in that you in particular preach taking higher dose cycles relative to other members. For example, there was a recent post where you stated 4 grams a week seemed normal for a first cycle.

Granted...I know the focus of this thread is on food intake.

Is S. His**a on roids?

[LiftEaTsLeEpRePeAt]

Where can these roids be purchased?

cosco

[visualizeperfection]

Where can these roids be purchased?

http://legalsteroids.com/

thats my source.


they ship without a prescription!!

[no one]

lol.. typical getbig loser response.... putting words in my mouth/attributing quotes to me.

you really are a fucking moron.

you expect somebody who's a natural 180lbs, to maintain 270lbs while eating 2000 kcals a day just because of how much steroids/ped's he takes?

for somebody who's considered "knowledgeable" on here, you're a fucking moron.

my pics are on here, tuffstuff, where's yours?

that's what I thought. keep playing the big wheel, sunshine.

unlike you I can back up the advice I give.

[ESFitness]

my pics are on here, tuffstuff, where's yours?

that's what I thought. keep playing the big wheel, sunshine.

unlike you I back up the advice I give.

explain to me how, exactly, you 'back up' the advice you give.

[no one]

explain to me how, exactly, you 'back up' the advice you give.

sure np.

see, I say 'I do this and this and this' when when I called called out for bullshit I post a pic.

you on the other hand regale the board with fanciful posts about your long time massive 4g a week anabolics/ insulin usage.

you must be an absolute BEAST bro. c'mon lets see what 4g a week cycles gets us, cupcake.

[visualizeperfection]

I have no beef with No One.

If its the dude Im thinking of, his physique shits on mine.

Having said that, does a positive thing ever come from you? I know its cool to talk shit and break people off, but thats all you do ffs.

I can see you sitting at a bar by yourself, just welling up with anger and rage at all the "lesser people" that youre surrounded with.

[Wolfox]

my pics are on here, tuffstuff, where's yours?

that's what I thought. keep playing the big wheel, sunshine.

unlike you I can back up the advice I give.

This you?

[no one]

I have no beef with No One.

If its the dude Im thinking of, his physique shits on mine.

Having said that, does a positive thing ever come from you? I know its cool to talk shit and break people off, but thats all you do ffs.

I can see you sitting at a bar by yourself, just welling up with anger and rage at all the "lesser people" that youre surrounded with.

lol bang on.

[Wolfox]

This you?

[LiftEaTsLeEpRePeAt]

This you?

lol  even I look better then that shit bag

[visualizeperfection]

lol bang on.

lol.

sounds like a happy life.

 

[Wolfox]

sure np.

see, I say 'I do this and this and this' when when I called called out for bullshit I post a pic.

you on the other hand regale the board with fanciful posts about your long time massive 4g a week anabolics/ insulin usage.

you must be an absolute BEAST bro. c'mon lets see what 4g a week cycles gets us, cupcake.

[no one]

c'mon star.

4g cycles and 6000 cal a day you must be a human dinosaur walking.

fuck bro you must be a MONSTER!