Steroid Myths #1... all u gotta do is take more and you'll be a freak.

[ESFitness]

Shame you failed to address this point on your last visit ESF.

Never mind.

address what point?

what was your point?

you're making gains?

I hope so.

you want me to congratulate you? lol

my point, on the other hand,  is this.. people like you and no one, and many others here, many who give out steroid advice, tend to talk about things they have no experience in, and tend to promote myths and bro-science.

such as the "you're taking 6g, you must be a huge monster"... yet, you have no experience training anybody but yourself (and your very limited steroid experience), let alone knowledge of how steroids work.

you have the experience of a 15yr old kid who knows nothing about steroids other than what he's read in back-issues of MuscleMag Int'l or MuscleMedia2000.

if you had an iq or over 80, you'd get the analogy I would make of the people who used to say the world was flat and if you sailed off into the ocean, you'd fall off the earth.

... but that'd be a waste of time with you, and a few others here, as you'd surely fail to comprehend it.

[Simple Simon]

address what point?

what was your point?

you're making gains?

I hope so.

you want me to congratulate you? lol

my point, on the other hand,  is this.. people like you and no one, and many others here, many who give out steroid advice, tend to talk about things they have no experience in, and tend to promote myths and bro-science.

such as the "you're taking 6g, you must be a huge monster"... yet, you have no experience training anybody but yourself (and your very limited steroid experience), let alone knowledge of how steroids work.

you have the experience of a 15yr old kid who knows nothing about steroids other than what he's read in back-issues of MuscleMag Int'l or MuscleMedia2000.

if you had an iq or over 80, you'd get the analogy I would make of the people who used to say the world was flat and if you sailed off into the ocean, you'd fall off the earth.

... but that'd be a waste of time with you, and a few others here, as you'd surely fail to comprehend it.

You claim 4gms is the sweet spot", you use upwards of 4gms yet make less gains than people on 500mgs, why is that?

Why would anyone making good gains on 500mgs take 4gms?
Are you suggesting they would get x times more benefit from 4gms?

Its guys like you that are dangerous to young kids reading about steroid use.
I recommend no one take more than 250mgs a week of test for a first course, you on the other hand feel 4gms is perfectly acceptable.

Dumbass.

[ESFitness]

You claim 4gms is the sweet spot", you use upwards of 4gms yet make less gains than people on 500mgs, why is that?

Why would anyone making good gains on 500mgs take 4gms?
Are you suggesting they would get x times more benefit from 4gms?

Its guys like you that are dangerous to young kids reading about steroid use.
I recommend no one take more than 250mgs a week of test for a first course, you on the other hand feel 4gms is perfectly acceptable.

Dumbass.

how do you know I make less 'gains' than someone on 500mg? lol...

I can go up and down 30lbs in 4-6 weeks.. lol your "gains".

you speak of gains like every bodybuilder is continually making 'gains'.. lol.... you and your retarded logic. (which I assume is based off your experience.. which is lacking, obviously).... you mean if we train for 30years we'll all be 500lbs? lol... of like 'no one', and it's taken him 21years of training and tren to accomplish what most can accomplish in 12 months (a whopping 230lbs at 10% bf. lol) on a proper diet with the proper drugs.... lol "gains".

... you can recommend whatever you like.

[Simple Simon]

how do you know I make less 'gains' than someone on 500mg? lol...

I can go up and down 30lbs in 4-6 weeks.. lol your "gains".

you speak of gains like every bodybuilder is continually making 'gains'.. lol.... you and your retarded logic. (which I assume is based off your experience.. which is lacking, obviously).... you mean if we train for 30years we'll all be 500lbs? lol... of like 'no one', and it's taken him 21years of training and tren to accomplish what most can accomplish in 12 months (a whopping 230lbs at 10% bf. lol) on a proper diet with the proper drugs.... lol "gains".

... you can recommend whatever you like.

Thats whats known as bloat.   

Until we see your photo you have no standing in this thread.

You do make less gains than someone on 500mgs, I have to assume that because I know whats possible from 500mgs a week, I haven't seen what 6gms of gear can do.

You could show us all at some point if you have the courage to back up your words with evidence.

[ESFitness]

Thats whats known as bloat.   

Until we see your photo you have no standing in this thread.

You do make less gains than someone on 500mgs, I have to assume that because I know whats possible from 500mgs a week, I haven't seen what 6gms of gear can do.

You could show us all at some point if you have the courage to back up your words with evidence.

how old are you?

how long have you been training?

how long have you been using steroids?

how many people have you trained?

how many people have you 'coached' or helped prep for a show?

how many people have you 'coached' with steroids/drugs/peds?

i'll bet you a 3 month cycle that I can answer all these for you pretty fucking accurately.

[anabolichalo]

someone who cant post a picture to back up his stories probably looks like shit

[Simple Simon]

someone who cant post a picture to back up his stories probably looks like shit

I have just had a skim through his old posts
He claimed 7% bf last July.

This guy must be nothing short of awesome.

[phreak]

someone who cant post a picture to back up his stories probably looks like shit

Of course not! Anyone making ridiculous claims should be assumed to be bigger than Coleman.

[ESFitness]

I have just had a skim through his old posts
He claimed 7% bf last July.

This guy must be nothing short of awesome.

yep... and spent the majority of a year at 5-6%.

at about 10% now.

so what?

keep skimming buddy, you might learn something.

[ESFitness]

someone who cant post a picture to back up his stories probably looks like shit

haha... coming from you.

'back up my stories'? to whom? exactly? you? who exactly are "you"? ... any of "you"?

[Cleanest Natural]

I don`t know anything about what steroid users can get away with or need, but lifetime naturals can continue to gain muscle in a caloric deficit.

you are one persistent troll

[Simple Simon]

you are one persistent troll

Hows the diet going Sev?

[phreak]

haha... coming from you.

'back up my stories'? to whom? exactly? you? who exactly are "you"? ... any of "you"?

At least we're not drug dealing criminals, so we've got that going for us.

[ESFitness]

At least we're not drug dealing criminals, so we've got that going for us.

I assume you get your testosterone cypionate straight from the local Walgreens, then. eh?

[Simple Simon]

how old are you?
48
how long have you been training?
28 years
how long have you been using steroids?
on and off 26 years
how many people have you trained?
I have helped many, they do their own training.
how many people have you 'coached' or helped prep for a show?
I have advised many, coaching is an over used term.
how many people have you 'coached' with steroids/drugs/peds?
I dont spend much time Googling about steroids so I dont advise people about combinations of drugs, I just advise on what I have done and let people make up their own minds.
i'll bet you a 3 month cycle that I can answer all these for you pretty fucking accurately.

How close were you?

[Wolfox]

At least we're not drug dealing criminals, so we've got that going for us.

Do you think steroids should be illegal?

[phreak]

I assume you get your testosterone cypionate straight from the local Walgreens, then. eh?

Hey, dealing drugs is dealing drugs. I don't deal, I buy. That is legal where I live, wouldn't even get fined for it. Great to have freedom.

[phreak]

Do you think steroids should be illegal?

No, certainly not. I'm pro legalization of everything. Roids, recreational drugs, euthanasia, ... everything. But if it is against the law, then you are a criminal. Take political action to make it legal, but don't perform a criminal act and expect to be praised for it.

[ESFitness]

How close where you?

28 years training and 26years using steroids... and you're still making better "gains" than me? lol wow buddy... you must be like 600lbs! why don't you get on stage?? at 48, you're surely a shoe-in for Masters Olympia.. I'm sure if Mr Manion & Dr Santonja see you, they'll surely fast-track you for your pro card.

let alone, you're 48 on an internet message board acting like a 15 yr old pot head. lol... pretty fucking embarrassing. $9 says you watch Bevis and Butthead reruns at least 4x a week.

[ESFitness]

No, certainly not. I'm pro legalization of everything. Roids, recreational drugs, euthanasia, ... everything. But if it is against the law, then you are a criminal. Take political action to make it legal, but don't perform a criminal act and expect to be praised for it.

it's legal where you are, yet you're acting like a bitch and complaining that I do it? lol

and who's expecting to be 'praised'? lol

you people... i'll never understand how people like you get through life acting like such little bitches.

[Simple Simon]

28 years training and 26years using steroids... and you're still making better "gains" than me? lol wow buddy... you must be like 600lbs! why don't you get on stage?? at 48, you're surely a shoe-in for Masters Olympia.. I'm sure if Mr Manion & Dr Santonja see you, they'll surely fast-track you for your pro card.

let alone, you're 48 on an internet message board acting like a 15 yr old pot head. lol... pretty fucking embarrassing. $9 says you watch Bevis and Butthead reruns at least 4x a week.

Read it again dummy, it says on and off.
I didn't touch anything from 96 to 2011.

I do get onstage, I cometed from 1988-96, I also competed last year.
When did you get onstage?

Im more a family guy man that Beavis and Butthead.

[anabolichalo]

haha... coming from you.

'back up my stories'? to whom? exactly? you? who exactly are "you"? ... any of "you"?

i have posted dozens of pictures  

[ESFitness]

i have posted dozens of pictures  

did I ask if you had?

[Wolfox]

Hey, dealing drugs is dealing drugs. I don't deal, I buy. That is legal where I live, wouldn't even get fined for it. Great to have freedom.

Don't get cocky now. The US is still #1 when it comes to freedom.

[anabolichalo]

did I ask if you had?

why are you constantly littering getbig with your socalled expertise if you are not willing to back it up with some evidence


is this some sort of mental disorder