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Young and old: differences?
« on: April 05, 2014, 12:30:21 PM »
I have question to more experienced ( i mean 30+ years old ) Guys from here I think there is a lot of Freaks who are in Bodybuilding sport for 10+ years

Do You Guys see a lot of differences when You were 20-25 years old, and right now when You are 30+ years old? I mean differences in diet ( i.e if you was young you can eat more kcals than now and stay lean etc. ), training ( recovery time etc. ), respond to AAS ( less sides from high doses etc. )?

What's Your experiences? :-)

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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2014, 12:36:52 PM »
yes, you start shift into a more thoughtful decisive approach to things, rather than relying on young emotional reps and food porn

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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2014, 01:03:10 PM »
After 32-34 your body starts slowing down fast.
Strenght is the same or more but recovery times are way longer. Old injuries start to appear.
About food i have less apetite.
Body fat increased little and i don't respond to diet so fast.

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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2014, 01:04:20 PM »
After 32-34 your body starts slowing down fast.
Strenght is the same or more but recovery times are way longer. Old injuries start to appear.
About food i have less apetite.
Body fat increased little and i don't respond to diet so fast.


About sums it up
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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2014, 01:07:30 PM »
After 32-34 your body starts slowing down fast.
Strenght is the same or more but recovery times are way longer. Old injuries start to appear.
About food i have less apetite.
Body fat increased little and i don't respond to diet so fast.

The metabolism slowdown did not happen for me until I was in my 50's.

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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2014, 01:35:32 PM »
I have not been training for that long, but I am 30+. The one thing I can say that changed is my diet. When I first started, I was OBSESSED with my anabolic window, eating 6-8 meals per day and taking every supplement. Now I eat when I want and what I want. I still follow a good diet, but I dont care if I miss my "anabolic window"  ::) ::) I only take a protein shake and maybe creatine.
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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2014, 01:37:45 PM »
At 30 startin test took me back to being 19 again

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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2014, 01:39:12 PM »
I get easily irritated at young whipper snappers asking dumb questions.   ;D

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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2014, 01:41:24 PM »
I get easily irritated at young whipper snappers asking dumb questions.   ;D


Anabolichalo?  :D :D
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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2014, 01:45:36 PM »
I have not been training for that long, but I am 30+. The one thing I can say that changed is my diet. When I first started, I was OBSESSED with my anabolic window, eating 6-8 meals per day and taking every supplement. Now I eat when I want and what I want. I still follow a good diet, but I dont care if I miss my "anabolic window"  ::) ::) I only take a protein shake and maybe creatine.
LOL same here. I don't even do shakes at the moment. It may help my physique become a little better but I'm not gonna be in no damn competition so who gives a fuck.
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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2014, 01:49:56 PM »
After 32-34 your body starts slowing down fast.
Strenght is the same or more but recovery times are way longer. Old injuries start to appear.
About food i have less apetite.
Body fat increased little and i don't respond to diet so fast.
bullshit its all in what you eat and what you do
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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2014, 01:55:53 PM »
LOL same here. I don't even do shakes at the moment. It may help my physique become a little better but I'm not gonna be in no damn competition so who gives a fuck.


When we are young we have these delusions of ourselves. As I have gotten older, I just want to look good naked lol. I mean, I still follow a healthy diet and whatnot, but I maybe eat 2-3 solid meals a day and 1-2 protein shakes. I have not lost any size or anything. I must admit that Getbig changed my approach to dieting lol.  :-X :-X
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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2014, 01:56:19 PM »
After 32-34 your body starts slowing down fast.
Strenght is the same or more but recovery times are way longer. Old injuries start to appear.
About food i have less apetite.
Body fat increased little and i don't respond to diet so fast.

Yes... and no matter what young whippersnapper you tell, they always think they'll never experience any of these things.   ???

I got my second wind when I was in my late 30's (natty).  Was going strong until about 42, then injury after injury started to appear.  Now I'm 48, I cannot do heavy squats or heavy flat BB benching anymore.  Strength is decreasing gradually no matter how perfect my diet is.  I need to do cardio 4-5X/wk to keep my waist where I like it.  I never had to cardio when I was in my 20's and 30's.

Keep on livin' boys... you'll see.

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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2014, 01:56:48 PM »
i just turned 57. things are the same for me. i live and breath to lift weights. i plan my day, my week, everything on the gym. my drive is unstoppable. of course there are problems at 57. i can do no legs at all, just walking on the treadmill or at the beach.
but my upper body is fine, lots of aches and pains, but nothing major. i just lifted 315 for three sets of ten on the bench last week. I'm still very strong, actually getting stronger as my diet is pretty good. is all of this drama on my body good for my long
term future? probally not, but what the fuck, we all have to go sometime. except i will be in a 3xxx shirt when i croak.

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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2014, 03:04:48 PM »
I have not been training for that long, but I am 30+. The one thing I can say that changed is my diet. When I first started, I was OBSESSED with my anabolic window, eating 6-8 meals per day and taking every supplement. Now I eat when I want and what I want. I still follow a good diet, but I dont care if I miss my "anabolic window"  ::) ::) I only take a protein shake and maybe creatine.


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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2014, 05:14:51 PM »
I began training with weights when I was 15 and am now 44. The only thing I've noticed is that sometimes I wake feeling a little stiff. That's it. My strength continues to increase and my intensity during training is as good as it's ever been.


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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2014, 05:20:18 PM »
I began training with weights when I was 15 and am now 44. The only thing I've noticed is that sometimes I wake feeling a little stiff. That's it. My strength continues to increase and my intensity during training is as good as it's ever been.


I can't see your strength continuing to increase throughout all those years. I too have been training consistently from age 13 to 47. I still look good, my strength no longer increases, if it did I would be benching 700#.

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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2014, 05:25:58 PM »
I can't see your strength continuing to increase throughout all those years. I too have been training consistently from age 13 to 47. I still look good, my strength no longer increases, if it did I would be benching 700#.

C'mon, man, I'm not saying I've gained strength consistently each and every month! Sometimes my efforts produce a leap in strength and sometimes it takes several months to ... essentially stay the same. BUT, as a general rule, I've always been building strength and power, in some capacity.

I compete in powerlifting now and then, and without doubt my persistent (and structured) strength training yields ever-increasing PRs/totals.

I have many goals and have both short-term and long-term markers. I fully expect to be at my very strongest in my 50s, barring catastrophic injury or, uh, death.

  

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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2014, 05:38:42 PM »
Getting bigger and stronger now then when I was younger. No aches or pains fortunately. Still love the rush of lifting. Train four days a week for at least 90 minutes each time, all weightlifting. The years of consistent training have paid off. Thick dense muscle is the result, something that doesn't happen in a year or two. Lifting is an addiction, a passion, a hobby, without it I would not be the person I am today. It benefits my mental state more so then my physical state.
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« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2014, 05:46:26 PM »
C'mon, man, I'm not saying I've gained strength consistently each and every month! Sometimes my efforts produce a leap in strength and sometimes it takes several months to ... essentially stay the same. BUT, as a general rule, I've always been building strength and power, in some capacity.

I compete in powerlifting now and then, and without doubt my persistent (and structured) strength training yields ever-increasing PRs/totals.

I have many goals and have both short-term and long-term markers. I fully expect to be at my very strongest in my 50s, barring catastrophic injury or, uh, death.

  I was messing with u. The young guys at the gym say I have old man strength. I still use our heaviest DB at our gym which are 100# but just do less reps, with slow controlled motions. I too have power lifted for many years. I just don't try to come close to maxing out anymore.  I competed in a bench for reps last year with your own body weight and won lifting it for 51 reps, but I won't do that again either because my shoulders hurt for about 6 months.

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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2014, 06:16:10 PM »
Yeah there's a difference...

For me I know more about what diet works for me and what workouts work for me...I get better results now with less time in the gym because I understand how my body responds to diet and particular exercises. So at 40+ I look as good now as I did in my 20's.

The flip side is old injuries come back, I'm a little slower and alot weaker than I was when I was younger. Part of that is mindset, less agression than in my youth. When I was younger I had more of a "fuck it, just do it" mentality....I would workout all the time back then even when my body needed rest and I could eat like shit and still look decent.

Back then I did stupid shit out of pride like trying to lift more than the other guys I was working out with. Now I do what feels good and avoid anyhting that is painful. Now I watch what I eat and because Im more  mature I can stick to that without needing to go out drinking or eating shit food. Now if I need rest I get rest instead of going to the gym anyway.

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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2014, 09:09:07 PM »
Yeah there's a difference...

For me I know more about what diet works for me and what workouts work for me...I get better results now with less time in the gym because I understand how my body responds to diet and particular exercises. So at 40+ I look as good now as I did in my 20's.

The flip side is old injuries come back, I'm a little slower and alot weaker than I was when I was younger. Part of that is mindset, less agression than in my youth. When I was younger I had more of a "fuck it, just do it" mentality....I would workout all the time back then even when my body needed rest and I could eat like shit and still look decent.

Back then I did stupid shit out of pride like trying to lift more than the other guys I was working out with. Now I do what feels good and avoid anyhting that is painful. Now I watch what I eat and because Im more  mature I can stick to that without needing to go out drinking or eating shit food. Now if I need rest I get rest instead of going to the gym anyway.
Good post. Same here. I am bigger than I was 20+ yrs old and only have to train 3 days a week instead of 6. Get to enjoy other things in life.

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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2014, 10:21:26 PM »
I've been at it for 26 years. I'm 44 now. You don't realise how indestructible you are when you're young and how easily you can bounce back. I've had a couple of bad injuries (ruptured disks) but otherwise it's the niggling little things that start to bug you - the tendonitis in the elbows or the sore knees that seem to reappear too soon.

I've always tried to lift heavy but have recently changed it up and am now doing more volume. I don't enjoy it as much but I think it's easier on my body. Falco is right - you train just as hard but the body doesn't respond as well as it used to.

The good thing is I care a hell of a lot less! If I miss a workout or two (or three or four), I don't care. If I only eat vegetables or bread for a few days, I don't care. I'd much rather be having fun kicking back or eating good food than worrying about what it's doing to my body.

I think from early to late 30's I was my biggest and strongest, but as I said, I don't really care so much anymore. I've even contemplated just stopping completely for awhile and doing something else. I would never have thought that way even 5 years ago.

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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2014, 10:55:24 PM »
Way more relaxed about it all now than when i was in my late teens / early twenties. No more hit the gym the morning after a night on the town to "sweat it out". The mere thought of that sends my heart into spasms. My old man did decided to do this in his sixties and ended up with atrial fibrilation.

I'm 35 now and enjoy my training more than ever. Mainly because I now know the truth about dieting and what works for my body. All the BS about shakes / 10 meals a day, makes you laugh thinking that all this "great advice" was coming from a bunch of socially inept narcassists who are juiced to the gills.

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Re: Young and old: differences?
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2014, 12:24:10 AM »
I have question to more experienced ( i mean 30+ years old ) Guys from here I think there is a lot of Freaks who are in Bodybuilding sport for 10+ years

Do You Guys see a lot of differences when You were 20-25 years old, and right now when You are 30+ years old? I mean differences in diet ( i.e if you was young you can eat more kcals than now and stay lean etc. ), training ( recovery time etc. ), respond to AAS ( less sides from high doses etc. )?

What's Your experiences? :-)

Yup. The muscle doesn't come as quickly as it it used to. I don't get the same pump as I did when I was in my 20's. Overall, I have less muscle mass than I did in my late teens/20's than I do today in my mid 30's and I lift the same amount more or less. Also, it's more difficult to see the same level of definition and cuts that I used to have. Just overall, it takes longer for my muscles to heal after a workout and my energy level is a bit down as well. I'd say you hit your peak in your late 20's and then it's down from there.