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Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« on: April 10, 2014, 02:44:57 AM »
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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2014, 03:58:12 AM »
in what way was he a warrior except for in fake wrestling?

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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2014, 04:06:51 AM »
it was real to me damn it!!!

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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2014, 04:08:10 AM »
it was real to me damn it!!!


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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2014, 04:14:16 AM »
in what way was he a warrior except for in fake wrestling?

He was a character. Just like a The Terminator or John Matrix in Commando or Rambo. He was a character created by Jim Hellwig. What was particularly famous about this character was that Jim Hellwig put so much of his life and passion into creating this character and making it believable and effective, like the physique he built up, the appearance and the intensity he brought to his performances. He even went as far as legally changing his name to "Warrior" just to protect his intellectual property.

The guy who "played" this character died. It would be like if the action star Arnold Schwarzenegger died and saying "in what way was he an action star other than in fake movies?".

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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2014, 04:17:36 AM »
He was a character. Just like a The Terminator or John Matrix in Commando or Rambo. He was a character created by Jim Hellwig. What was particularly famous about this character was that Jim Hellwig put so much of his life and passion into creating this character and making it believable and effective, like the physique he built up, the appearance and the intensity he brought to his performances. He even went as far as legally changing his name to "Warrior" just to protect his intellectual property.

The guy who "played" this character died. It would be like if the action star Arnold Schwarzenegger died and saying "in what way was he an action star other than in fake movies?".

wut?

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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2014, 04:20:54 AM »

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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2014, 04:34:25 AM »
He was a character. Just like a The Terminator or John Matrix in Commando or Rambo. He was a character created by Jim Hellwig. What was particularly famous about this character was that Jim Hellwig put so much of his life and passion into creating this character and making it believable and effective, like the physique he built up, the appearance and the intensity he brought to his performances. He even went as far as legally changing his name to "Warrior" just to protect his intellectual property.

The guy who "played" this character died. It would be like if the action star Arnold Schwarzenegger died and saying "in what way was he an action star other than in fake movies?".

lol little 300 post something getting a major meltdown from one simple line from me

apparently it was real to you damn it

lolololol


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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2014, 04:44:32 AM »
 ;D Having a meltdown is acceptable, as long as it's Ultimate Warrior style!



Nah, just messing I was such a big fan of wrestling when I was younger, still am today but don't watch it as much, I get all ultra defensive when people call it fake.



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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2014, 06:24:51 AM »
Go to Florida and call Haku a fake ass wrestler, then tell us what happened.

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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2014, 06:28:38 AM »
;D Having a meltdown is acceptable, as long as it's Ultimate Warrior style!



Nah, just messing I was such a big fan of wrestling when I was younger, still am today but don't watch it as much, I get all ultra defensive when people call it fake.



Why would you get defensive when other people point out the fact wrestling is fake? 
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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2014, 07:19:46 AM »
Why would you get defensive when other people point out the fact wrestling is fake? 

Because "fake" is the wrong word to use. Sure it's scripted and predetermined and two opponents might be the best of friends in real life. But it requires very high levels of athleticism and toughness. Those bumps wrestlers take are hard. They "learn" how to fall sure, but it is still a very real impact and most people don't realise this. It takes a lot of skill to pull of what they do. And when a guy suffers a dislocated elbow in a match or tears his quad muscle off the bone or a broken neck and still gets up and finishes the "script", it is harsh to say they are fakes when no other performers could continue under those circumstances.

The real irony of the situation is that anybody who calls wrestling fake to a wrestlers face gets the crap beaten out of them.


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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2014, 07:33:41 AM »
Because "fake" is the wrong word to use. Sure it's scripted and predetermined and two opponents might be the best of friends in real life. But it requires very high levels of athleticism and toughness. Those bumps wrestlers take are hard. They "learn" how to fall sure, but it is still a very real impact and most people don't realise this. It takes a lot of skill to pull of what they do. And when a guy suffers a dislocated elbow in a match or tears his quad muscle off the bone or a broken neck and still gets up and finishes the "script", it is harsh to say they are fakes when no other performers could continue under those circumstances.

The real irony of the situation is that anybody who calls wrestling fake to a wrestlers face gets the crap beaten out of them.


OK, I get what you are saying but it will still never garner much respect due to it's pre determined outcomes.  And other athletes push through injury all the time, it's not just wrestlers. And the injuries incurred in wrestling aren't deliberate, the other guy doesn't truly mean to hurt you (well most of the time), which is a lot different than facing off with a professional boxer or ufc fighter that if he gets a chance to snap your arm or knock you out he is going to take it.  

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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2014, 07:35:23 AM »
Go to Florida and call Haku a fake ass wrestler, then tell us what happened.




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Haku is legit tuff..

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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2014, 08:09:12 AM »
It's fake as in scripted. As in pretending to be a match!

It is the right word allright.

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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2014, 08:18:19 AM »
He was also closet case homophobe as well.  Well known in Atlanta during his BBing days as an escort for the schmoes. 

And who could forget that comic issue with the homo overtones where he basically raped Santa and forced him into bondage?

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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2014, 08:20:17 AM »
UW had the coolest face paint ever.  
UW had some of the best, headscratching interviews ever.  
UW was a former bb.
UW had one of the best physiques in the history of wrasslin.  
UW wrassled the Von Erichs.  
UW was powerful.  
UW trained until he puked or passed out.  
UW received the biggest pops in the history of wrasslin.  
UW had some of the best entrance music of all time.  
UW had one of the best entrances of all time.
UW loved his fans.
UW rarely broke character.
UW was once the Dingo Warrior.
UW was born Jim Helwig and changed his named to Warrior.
UW was inducted into the WWE HoF.
UW had his final appearance on the biggest wrasslin program in history on RAW.
UW is an icon in the wrasslin business.
UW had some of the coolest in ring attire in the history of wrasslin.
UW was probably slightly insane.
UW could shake the ring ropes better than anyone in wrasslin history.
UW died doing what he loved.

If you weren't a wrasslin fan in the 80s/90s you still knew who Hulk Hogan and the Ultimate Warrior were.  

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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2014, 08:21:18 AM »
Go to Florida and call Haku a fake ass wrestler, then tell us what happened.

Haha  ;D

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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2014, 08:27:07 AM »
OK, I get what you are saying but it will still never garner much respect due to it's pre determined outcomes.  And other athletes push through injury all the time, it's not just wrestlers. And the injuries incurred in wrestling aren't deliberate, the other guy doesn't truly mean to hurt you (well most of the time), which is a lot different than facing off with a professional boxer or ufc fighter that if he gets a chance to snap your arm or knock you out he is going to take it.  




Plenty of people respect professional wrestling. It's not an easy thing to do. It takes a very specific mindset and determination to want to be a professional wrestler. I respect the hell out of what these guys do in the ring. It's not a sport, it's professional entertainment. But make no mistake, the physicallity of pro wrestling is among the highest of any pro legit sport.


I'm not ashamed to admit that pro wrestling is a guilty pleasure for me at my age. To each his own.

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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2014, 08:28:10 AM »
Because "fake" is the wrong word to use. Sure it's scripted and predetermined and two opponents might be the best of friends in real life. But it requires very high levels of athleticism and toughness. Those bumps wrestlers take are hard. They "learn" how to fall sure, but it is still a very real impact and most people don't realise this. It takes a lot of skill to pull of what they do. And when a guy suffers a dislocated elbow in a match or tears his quad muscle off the bone or a broken neck and still gets up and finishes the "script", it is harsh to say they are fakes when no other performers could continue under those circumstances.

The real irony of the situation is that anybody who calls wrestling fake to a wrestlers face gets the crap beaten out of them.


100pct,,there main thing is to 'sell'the crowd and suspend the imagination for short time that what there seeing is perceived real,or nobody would cheer if they knew better.out come is irrelevant.

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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2014, 08:35:43 AM »

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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2014, 08:39:32 AM »

dr d I think didn't pull back nor cup the slap,stossel sued or claimed he was visciously attacked and not on script..hearing loss..how  about when Hogan dropped richard belzer on his talk show he fell back and cracked head open and visible bleed ing down his suit,,

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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2014, 08:47:33 AM »

Plenty of people respect professional wrestling. It's not an easy thing to do. It takes a very specific mindset and determination to want to be a professional wrestler. I respect the hell out of what these guys do in the ring. It's not a sport, it's professional entertainment. But make no mistake, the physicallity of pro wrestling is among the highest of any pro legit sport.


I'm not ashamed to admit that pro wrestling is a guilty pleasure for me at my age. To each his own.
I loved wrestling as a kid, even seen Andre the Giant at Festival Hall in Melbourne, but I did grow out of it.  I don't know if I respect such men, no different than football players.  You have to question the mindset of men who smash their bodies and deliberately fuck themselves up for entertaining the moronic masses.   I always just thought they had no self respect and no self esteem, like they believed they didn't matter enough to have a healthy body and mind to last them their lifetime.  It's almost like they allow themselves to be beat up to confirm their worthlessness, their unworthiness to live a decent healthy life.  It's a bizarre thing to sacrifice your health and wellbeing to entertain morons.
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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2014, 08:50:44 AM »
OK, I get what you are saying but it will still never garner much respect due to it's pre determined outcomes.  And other athletes push through injury all the time, it's not just wrestlers. And the injuries incurred in wrestling aren't deliberate, the other guy doesn't truly mean to hurt you (well most of the time), which is a lot different than facing off with a professional boxer or ufc fighter that if he gets a chance to snap your arm or knock you out he is going to take it.  



It garners respect among people who are fans of wrestling. Its mostly dismissed by other sports fans though. Heres the thing - it is respected by many top level MMA fighters. They understand how tough pro-wrestlers really are. Now, I'm not saying that a pro wrestler could beat an MMA guy in a UFC sanctioned fight but I still think using the word fake is not right. Fake to me makes me think of something being phony or not real. But look at this clip as an example, I just can not call this "fake".


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Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2014, 08:51:20 AM »
people who cant make it in a combination of

*bodybuilding
*fighting sports
*acting


they end up in "wrestling"