Niners

[Dos Equis]

Well they are done.  Some big decisions to make this offseason.  I think they will pay Purdy, but much less than he would have made had he won the Super Bowl and not regressed a bit this year. 

I think Deebo is probably out. 

[Beefjake]

Cleveland is where NFL careers go to die.  But I cannot rag on them when it has been 29 years since my boys won the Super Bowl.

Oh yes, Dallas had one after you guys!
But you’ve had lots, way lot, more after than couple of one and dones so it isn’t talked about in the same way.

[Dos Equis]

Oh yes, Dallas had one after you guys!
But you’ve had lots, way lot, more after than couple of one and dones so it isn’t talked about in the same way.

Yeah we've got the rich history and all that like the Steelers and Cowboys, but it has been way too long.  Being a sports fanatic is a real emotional roller coaster.  And when all of your teams are losing it makes life less enjoyable.  lol

[Beefjake]

Down year for Niners.

What do you think will happen with Purdy.
Stats say he is your Franchise QB and should get paid as such… But, is he?
Is he really worth, whats the going rate, $55-60M a year?

[Earl1972]

Down year for Niners.

What do you think will happen with Purdy.
Stats say he is your Franchise QB and should get paid as such… But, is he?
Is he really worth, whats the going rate, $55-60M a year?

he is not a franchise quarterback, he only excelled in previous years because of all the talent that surrounded him

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[Humble Narcissist]

he is not a franchise quarterback, he only excelled in previous years because of all the talent that surrounded him

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There should be a line of free agent QB's who would love to have that job with that roster and coaching staff.

[Beefjake]

he is not a franchise quarterback, he only excelled in previous years because of all the talent that surrounded him
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Kind of like Dak Prescott. Great situation, good line, receivers and running game.
When those started to fade… well, he is good and glimpses of great. Not stellar.

Brock needs to settle with decent salary so they can keep talent around him.

Then again thats also the problem with FA qb. How much can 49ers pay?

[IroNat]

Purdy will get offered $40 million over 3 years with $20 million guaranteed.

If he's smart he will take it and stay with the 49ers and Shanahan.

[Dos Equis]

Down year for Niners.

What do you think will happen with Purdy.
Stats say he is your Franchise QB and should get paid as such… But, is he?
Is he really worth, whats the going rate, $55-60M a year?

I think he will probably get right around $50M a year. 

Glad this season is over.  Lotta work to do in the offseason.  They already have the talent on the roster to win the Super Bowl in 2026, with help on the O and D lines.  Assuming everyone is healthy.

[Earl1972]

Kind of like Dak Prescott. Great situation, good line, receivers and running game.
When those started to fade… well, he is good and glimpses of great. Not stellar.

Brock needs to settle with decent salary so they can keep talent around him.

Then again thats also the problem with FA qb. How much can 49ers pay?

didn't dak lead the league in touchdown passes last year?  he's much more talented than brock and the cowboys roster during his career was never close to the 49ers, they had a pro bowl player at every position last year

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[Beefjake]

didn't dak lead the league in touchdown passes last year?  he's much more talented than brock and the cowboys roster during his career was never close to the 49ers, they had a pro bowl player at every position last year
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Might be? He certainly isn’t bad. It’s just… doesn’t seem cool and collected, always in a rush.
Anyway some of those stats are because they were always losing and had to catch up.

Roster was good in his first year. Zeke was fresh and O-line hadn’t faded yet. Was Dez still there. Amari Cooper and then that one who went to Raiders…(Gallop)? Little white slot guy too.

[Dos Equis]

didn't dak lead the league in touchdown passes last year?  he's much more talented than brock and the cowboys roster during his career was never close to the 49ers, they had a pro bowl player at every position last year

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Dak has never been to the NFC Championship game or the Super Bowl, nor has he been a play or two away from winning the Super Bowl.  Not much of a comparison. 

[Earl1972]

Dak has never been to the NFC Championship game or the Super Bowl, nor has he been a play or two away from winning the Super Bowl.  Not much of a comparison.

are you giving brock the credit for those title game appearances instead of the loaded roster he played on?  not to mention the 49ers went to those games with jimmy garrappolo while the cowboys haven't been there since 1995

brock isn't in dak's class, and the league will agree with me when nobody pays him the same as dak

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[Earl1972]

Might be? He certainly isn’t bad. It’s just… doesn’t seem cool and collected, always in a rush.
Anyway some of those stats are because they were always losing and had to catch up.

Roster was good in his first year. Zeke was fresh and O-line hadn’t faded yet. Was Dez still there. Amari Cooper and then that one who went to Raiders…(Gallop)? Little white slot guy too.

passing yards are the stat that gets inflated because you are losing and need to catch up, not touchdowns

that's why roethlisberger's passing yard stats are inflated

is it dak's fault the roster has been bad?  their roster has been bad for most of the last 30 years

i'm not a big fan of dak but he absolutely is better than brock

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[Humble Narcissist]

passing yards are the stat that gets inflated because you are losing and need to catch up, not touchdowns

that's why roethlisberger's passing yard stats are inflated

is it dak's fault the roster has been bad?  their roster has been bad for most of the last 30 years

i'm not a big fan of dak but he absolutely is better than brock

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The Cowboys roster is not bad.

[Dos Equis]

are you giving brock the credit for those title game appearances instead of the loaded roster he played on?  not to mention the 49ers went to those games with jimmy garrappolo while the cowboys haven't been there since 1995

brock isn't in dak's class, and the league will agree with me when nobody pays him the same as dak

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I'm comparing what both accomplished.  It's not close.

I've watched them both play.  I don't watch every Cowboys game, but I have watched every game Purdy stated or played in.  He's the real deal.  Yes the pieces around him matter, but that is true of every QB.  It's not like Dak was playing with scrubs.

He definitely didn't play as well this season, but the team was cursed.  The amount of injuries and dysfunction were crazy.   

If you don't think the Niners are going to pay Purdy then you haven't been following the local SF scene.  He' going to get paid. 

[Earl1972]

The Cowboys roster is not bad.

it is nowhere near on the level of 2023 49ers, the cowboys haven't had a roster like that since 1995

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[Earl1972]

I'm comparing what both accomplished.  It's not close.

I've watched them both play.  I don't watch every Cowboys game, but I have watched every game Purdy stated or played in.  He's the real deal.  Yes the pieces around him matter, but that is true of every QB.  It's not like Dak was playing with scrubs.

He definitely didn't play as well this season, but the team was cursed.  The amount of injuries and dysfunction were crazy.   

If you don't think the Niners are going to pay Purdy then you haven't been following the local SF scene.  He' going to get paid.

you are talking about team accomplishments, purdy had a pro bowl player at every position, his team accomplishments are the same as jimmy garoppalo

so the team had problems and he faltered, and you still think he's the real deal?  i never said they won't pay him, i'm saying they shouldn't

you can't pay and maintain all those stars in a salary cap league, purdy will look more and more like mr. irrelevant, their super bowl window has closed

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[Dos Equis]

you are talking about team accomplishments, purdy had a pro bowl player at every position, his team accomplishments are the same as jimmy garoppalo

so the team had problems and he faltered, and you still think he's the real deal?  i never said they won't pay him, i'm saying they shouldn't

you can't pay and maintain all those stars in a salary cap league, purdy will look more and more like mr. irrelevant, their super bowl window has closed

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No they were not just team accomplishments.  It was Purdy making plays.  Being accurate.  Processing.  Protecting the ball.  He and Jimmy G do not belong in the same sentence.  He is miles ahead of Jimmy G. 

Yes I think he's the real deal because I'm looking at his entire body of work.  He has been one of the best QBs in the NFL the past three years and he has the stats, wins, and game film to prove it. 

The Niners keep whomever they want.  It's all monopoly money.  They will pay him $50 or $60M a year, but it will be front or back loaded, bonuses, restructuring, etc. like they always do. 

You initially said this:

brock isn't in dak's class, and the league will agree with me when nobody pays him the same as dak

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If you are now saying the Niners will pay him, then ok.

[Humble Narcissist]

it is nowhere near on the level of 2023 49ers, the cowboys haven't had a roster like that since 1995

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True, but I wasn't comparing them.

[Earl1972]

No they were not just team accomplishments.  It was Purdy making plays.  Being accurate.  Processing.  Protecting the ball.  He and Jimmy G do not belong in the same sentence.  He is miles ahead of Jimmy G. 

Yes I think he's the real deal because I'm looking at his entire body of work.  He has been one of the best QBs in the NFL the past three years and he has the stats, wins, and game film to prove it. 

The Niners keep whomever they want.  It's all monopoly money.  They will pay him $50 or $60M a year, but it will be front or back loaded, bonuses, restructuring, etc. like they always do. 

You initially said this:

If you are now saying the Niners will pay him, then ok.

but you complain about dak simply because he doesn't have the same playoff success, while jimmy G did

if you watched him play you would see he has major limitations compared to the leagues best

a salary cap league is not monopoly money like baseball, you can't pay a quarterbacks 50m a year and expect to still have a pro bowler at every other position because they want to be paid what they are worth too, so those stats and wins will be far less going forward

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[Humble Narcissist]

but you complain about dak simply because he doesn't have the same playoff success, while jimmy G did

if you watched him play you would see he has major limitations compared to the leagues best

a salary cap league is not monopoly money like baseball, you can't pay a quarterbacks 50m a year and expect to still have a pro bowler at every other position because they want to be paid what they are worth too, so those stats and wins will be far less going forward

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If I owned a team I would draft a QB in the 1st or 2nd round every two years. After their 1st contract is up after 4 years let them go plus the backup is always a quality guy. Use all that extra cash for the rest of the roster.

[Dos Equis]

but you complain about dak simply because he doesn't have the same playoff success, while jimmy G did

if you watched him play you would see he has major limitations compared to the leagues best

a salary cap league is not monopoly money like baseball, you can't pay a quarterbacks 50m a year and expect to still have a pro bowler at every other position because they want to be paid what they are worth too, so those stats and wins will be far less going forward

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I'm not complaining about Dak.  I just responded to your contention that Dak is far superior to Purdy.  I disagree with that assessment.  Use whatever metric you want (stats, wins, game film, etc.) and it's pretty difficult to support your viewpoint.  And keep in mind Purdy was a play or two away from winning the Super Bowl, something Dak has never done.  Based on the limited number of times I've watched Dak play, what I see is a very good QB who does not deliver in the clutch.  I have no hate for the man, other than the fact he is a Dallas Cowboy. 

I watch every year how the Niners manipulate the salary cap to keep whomever they want.  They already have Pro Bowl and All Pro players all over the place and only one of them (Purdy) is on a rookie contract.  They are going to lose some players, but I'm honestly not worried about the salary cap.   

[Humble Narcissist]

I'm not complaining about Dak.  I just responded to your contention that Dak is far superior to Purdy.  I disagree with that assessment.  Use whatever metric you want (stats, wins, game film, etc.) and it's pretty difficult to support your viewpoint.  And keep in mind Purdy was a play or two away from winning the Super Bowl, something Dak has never done.  Based on the limited number of times I've watched Dak play, what I see is a very good QB who does not deliver in the clutch.  I have no hate for the man, other than the fact he is a Dallas Cowboy. 

I watch every year how the Niners manipulate the salary cap to keep whomever they want.  They already have Pro Bowl and All Pro players all over the place and only one of them (Purdy) is on a rookie contract.  They are going to lose some players, but I'm honestly not worried about the salary cap.

They do a masterful job with the cap.

[Dos Equis]

They do a masterful job with the cap.

They really do.