Applying for a job you have no experience for

[James28]

That's what I've gone and done. And now got the interview 

It's for a divisional manager reporting directly to the MD. The only people I've ever 'managed' were sending the trainees to fetch my coffee. I've always been working directly with the clients on site or as part or with the developers.

Any of you ever done it? Took a stab at something and it came off?

[SF1900]

Yes.

I was new to the lifestyle of being a "schmoe." I did not know where to start, who to turn to, or what to do. However, I knew if I wanted to be the best schmoe, that I needed to take chances. I needed to take risks. I needed to put myself out there for the betterment of the bodybuilding industry. I did and it was fantastic. I am glad that I never looked back.

[James28]

Yes.

I was new to the lifestyle of being a "schmoe." I did not know where to start, who to turn to, or what to do. However, I knew if I wanted to be the best schmoe, that I needed to take chances. I needed to take risks. I needed to put myself out there for the betterment of the bodybuilding industry. I did and it was fantastic. I am glad that I never looked back.

Never had a doubt you could mate. You seem geared for this from Day 1 

[SF1900]

Never had a doubt you could mate. You seem geared for this from Day 1 

Thank you for your words of support and encouragement. I have always been able to count on you.

It's in my blood.

[Roger Bacon]

That's what I've gone and done. And now got the interview 

It's for a divisional manager reporting directly to the MD. The only people I've ever 'managed' were sending the trainees to fetch my coffee. I've always been working directly with the clients on site or as part or with the developers.

Any of you ever done it? Took a stab at something and it came off?

Done it twice, got the job twice...

[Princess L]

Focus on your skills.  Lots of things are applicable.

[James28]

I've just been sent through the interview details and persons that would be meeting with me. I'll spend the weekend researching each and everyone of these cocksuckers. I assume if I get past the first stage I'll be meeting with The Man himself. Need a bit of dirt on him. Nothing like dropping a pic of him sucking a dummy wearing a soiled diaper to even out the balance of power a bit 

[Mr Anabolic]

Not the same, but related...

Once in the mid 90's I knew I was being severely underpaid compared to others in my field.  I was essential to the department and a very hard worker... my manager knew this and valued my talent.  I decided to throw the dice and told him I got another job and was going to leave the company.  The very next day I received a 30% raise.  It was better than sex.  I found it bizarre that the manager never asked me for the other company's offer letter. 

[the trainer]

That's what I've gone and done. And now got the interview 

It's for a divisional manager reporting directly to the MD. The only people I've ever 'managed' were sending the trainees to fetch my coffee. I've always been working directly with the clients on site or as part or with the developers.

Any of you ever done it? Took a stab at something and it came off?

Just make sure you do your research so it sounds like you know what you are talking about when you are in the interview and lie your ass off.

[residue]

I've just been sent through the interview details and persons that would be meeting with me. I'll spend the weekend researching each and everyone of these cocksuckers. I assume if I get past the first stage I'll be meeting with The Man himself. Need a bit of dirt on him. Nothing like dropping a pic of him sucking a dummy wearing a soiled diaper to even out the balance of power a bit 

99% of management jobs have nothing to do with ability and everything to do with charm. google\twitter\facebook everyone you're being interviewed it find some of their interests and find a way to work it into the interview. if they wanted a skilled professional drone they would have hired an asian or an indian. It's all about showing you're not some mong that cant look anyone in the eye and belongs in a back room writing ledgers

[James28]

Awesome advice in here. With the charm part, think Sheldon Levine in Glengarry Glen Ross  . Just not as slimy.

I'll steer the conversation away from the specifics and into territories I know more about.

[Roger Bacon]

Yes.

I was new to the lifestyle of being a "schmoe." I did not know where to start, who to turn to, or what to do. However, I knew if I wanted to be the best schmoe, that I needed to take chances. I needed to take risks. I needed to put myself out there for the betterment of the bodybuilding industry. I did and it was fantastic. I am glad that I never looked back.

Yes!!!! lol

[calfzilla]

Feel free to lie and exaggerate at interviews; it's not like they're going to check anyway. And if they do so what, you don't get the job.

A friend of mine tells me about this guy she works with who does this all the time and is always getting high paid jobs he's not qualified for. He loses them sometimes but is able to get them. 

[James28]

Didn't the ex CEO of Yahoo get caught without having a degree? They never check. I've got my references primed and ready and would only accept email requests which they'll email to me so I can respond back on their behalf.

I'm getting this job. Tired of kicking around with nobodies and middle management.

[SF1900]

Didn't the ex CEO of Yahoo get caught without having a degree? They never check. I've got my references primed and ready and would only accept email requests which they'll email to me so I can respond back on their behalf.

I'm getting this job. Tired of kicking around with nobodies and middle management.

Use Johnny Falcon as a reference.

[haider]

Feel free to lie and exaggerate at interviews; it's not like they're going to check anyway. And if they do so what, you don't get the job.

A friend of mine tells me about this guy she works with who does this all the time and is always getting high paid jobs he's not qualified for. He loses them sometimes but is able to get them. 

I don't understand applying for jobs you are under qualified for. that's just asking for trouble, whether it's more stress or just plain being incompetent at it. Or perhaps some people are just good at looking like they get shit done..

[Rosicrucian]

Done it twice, got the job twice...

Hey RB, alex here...

No doubts, you've got that winner confident vibe (no homo).

I would say 80% of one's "score" when it comes to qualifying for xyz is confidence, plain and simple. The other 20% is execution. I've applied that rule myself to new hires and been quite successful.

Step 1: dominate the environment in an approachable way. Marking your territory with urine comes to mind but won't last more than 18hrs or so.
Step 2: Establish relationship. If you're inheriting an existing team, size out the players and approach them based on their interest and motivation factors.
Step 3: Establish confidence. Show your team that not only you can execute but that you're the buffer as well and are "there for them". This is pretty universal, applies to code douche all the way to strip club management.
Step 4: emphasis on victory. Remind the team of the "victories" and accomplishments. Share the good news and make them feel like they're part of it.

[King Shizzo]

99% of management jobs have nothing to do with ability and everything to do with charm. google\twitter\facebook everyone you're being interviewed it find some of their interests and find a way to work it into the interview. if they wanted a skilled professional drone they would have hired an asian or an indian. It's all about showing you're not some mong that cant look anyone in the eye and belongs in a back room writing ledgers

100% correct. It's all about shaking hands and kissing babies.

[Rosicrucian]

100% correct. It's all about shaking hands and kissing babies.

mmm no it's not. You drunk again chief of Grappa?

[King Shizzo]

mmm no it's not. You drunk again chief of Grappa?

Depends on the field and the position. Upper management is always politics.

[Rosicrucian]

Depends on the field and the position. Upper management is always politics.

Always... but I doubt "James28" is rolling into "C" level shit here.. most likely food supplies are involved. No offence James.

[King Shizzo]

Always... but I doubt "James28" is rolling into "C" level shit here.. most likely food supplies are involved. No offence James.

James is all the way "C" class. Mercedes C class. 

[Rosicrucian]

James is all the way "C" class. Mercedes C class.  

Comeback options were:

• "James is all the way "C" class. Cauckomania class.  "
• "James is all the way "C" class. Cuntomania class.  "

You went with an offbase unfunny remark chief, 80's dated FFS. Just spending some time here trying to show you the ropes to wittiness.

 I believe in you.

[James28]

Sick advice in this thread . No food involved though.

I got this.

And Haider. As was said elsewhere. If you need someone to do actual work, get a Paki or Indian and stick them in the back room.

[King Shizzo]

Comeback options were:

• "James is all the way "C" class. Cauckomania class.  "
• "James is all the way "C" class. Cuntomania class.  "

You went with an offbase unfunny remark chief, 80's dated FFS. Just spending some time here trying to show your the ropes to wittiness.

 I believe in you.

I have much to learn.