Natural Bodybuilders Vs. Steroid Users (FOR THE KIDS)

[Oliver Klaushof]

If you are about to take steroids you crazy young people think it out carefully. Be aware that you can screw up your body's natural ability to produce testosterone for the rest of your life. If the idea of taking testosterone supplementation with a prescription for the rest of your life is bad enough, consider how small your nuts will shrink  

Honestly I think there are three reasons guys lift weights:

-They want to attract females.
-They want to intimidate other guys.
-To create envy in other guys.(vanity)

What else could it be?

Chances are you aren't gonna make any money doing it.
If you're using steroids it damn sure isn't healthy.

It's so primitive isn't it. It's cave man shit.  

Well I started getting into it a year or so ago because I'm somewhat vain haha. I like to be the best I can be in all aspects of my life - and I want people to see that. Chicks too!! Chicks dig a guy with a good body no matter what they might tell you.
(They like an above average cock too, but that's another board  )

But just like women don't want a life partner with a 12" cock, most of them don't want a guy(the real lookers) with a musculature like Ronnie Coleman or Jay Cutler. That's too extreme. They want a man with a fashion model physique and a handsome face. (and a above average cock too) When women see a bloated steroid abuser they see a guy that's insecure. A man who's self-worth is completely tied to his body image. Besides, bloated steroid users with back acne and red faces are a dime a dozen in any "hardcore gym"  

Now when a woman sees a guy with a fitness build or a body like Steeve Reeves they see a well rounded person - a potential mate  

The point of this rant is - 99.9% of the population have nothing to gain from bodybuilding with steroids and everything to gain from natural bodybuilding. Hard work pays off. It's all about delayed gratification!

[24KT]

I never thought I'd see the day when mansonvier and I actually agreed,
...but on this issue, I couldn't agree with him more.

Kiddies... JUST SAY NO! ...to steroids, squirrel nuts and man-boobies! 

[Oliver Klaushof]

I never thought I'd see the day when mansonvier and I actually agreed,
...but on this issue, I couldn't agree with him more.

You and most women like above average cocks, but not of the 12" variety?

[Borracho]

If anyone bodybuilds mainly to get women I guarantee they won't last long.  You have to do this for yourself because this is a selfish lifestyle. You think that most women or anyone for that matter will understand when you have to go eat for the 5th time at 3 o clock in the afternoon, when you have to go train, when you have to go tanning, etc?

I admit that when I started training 4 years ago it was only to look better for the girls. Shortly after that I realized that I loved doing it for me and only me. And thats the way its gotta be if you're serious about this. All the glances and attention from people are secondary and not the reason you keep going.

[Bluto]

there's several other reasons to life weights

[24KT]

You and most women like above average cocks, but not of the 12" variety?

Definitely not, ...I prefer mine in soups



     Chicken Soup

It's good for the soul, ...and has lots of arginine 

[Oliver Klaushof]

Definitely not, ...I prefer mine in soups



     Chicken Soup

It's good for the soul, ...and has lots of arginine 

We knew you hate men.

[24KT]

We knew you hate men.

Not ALL men, ...just arrogant, obnoxious little pricks... say 99% of them. 

[trulytoned]

Someone who achieves their idea of a good build naturally should clearly be given alot more praise than someone who acheives it with steriods. IMO alot of steriod users seem to use it just so they can look at other people and think to themselves "im bigger than that guy". When Natural bodybuilders lift more for themselves. Anyone who can lift naturally and stay natural truly does love the sport for what it is.

[Oliver Klaushof]

Someone who achieves their idea of a good build naturally should clearly be given alot more praise than someone who acheives it with steriods. IMO alot of steriod users seem to use it just so they can look at other people and think to themselves "im bigger than that guy". When Natural bodybuilders lift more for themselves. Anyone who can lift naturally and stay natural truly does love the sport for what it is.

The main issue I have is the feeling that you'll never know what you could have achieved without the assistance steroids give you. It's like playing a video game with all the cheat codes. I couldn't get any satisfaction from it. And imagine the depression that kicks in when you quickly deflate by 30 or 40 pounds as soon as you quit. And that's before considering the health issues. There's no point in it.

[trulytoned]

yes i agree with the idea that steriod use is infact useless unless you continuously use it. Doing 1 cycle or just a few will do nothing but depress you.

[Oliver Klaushof]

yes i agree with the idea that steriod use is infact useless unless you continuously use it. Doing 1 cycle or just a few will do nothing but depress you.

And shut down your natural test levels. True it comes back eventually but in the meantime 

[trulytoned]

And shut down your natural test levels. True it comes back eventually but in the meantime 

Yes its definitely a gamble, you take a drug which you can overdose on, it might not have the same affects as overdosing on say heroin but you can lose fertility and have devastating physical side effects. I'm not bashing anyone that takes them but before you do i suggest doing lots of research so you don't harm yourself.  I'm going to bring up a topic that i doing think has been mentioned...
I actually think that many steroid users may be addicted to it, maybe not in the same way as a drug that gets you high. But steroid users take drugs to achieve something(size) in the same way "junkies" take heroine or what have you to achieve their high. I believe many steroid users cant stop or are afraid to because they will lose all or most of what they have worked so "hard" to get.

[Acerimmer1]

And shut down your natural test levels. True it comes back eventually but in the meantime 

Just a second ago you said for the rest of your life. Which is it?

[Oliver Klaushof]

Just a second ago you said for the rest of your life. Which is it?

BOTH.

A short cycle will not shut someone down forever.

But if you're Nasser El Sonbaty you could be getting your test from the doctor for the remainder of your life.

[trulytoned]

Like I said without proper discipline or knowledge it's a gamble

[WiseGuy]

Not ALL men, ...just arrogant, obnoxious little pricks... say 99% of them. 

that why she is alone....

she has penis envy


 

[24KT]

that why she is alone....

she has penis envy


 

No honey, I'm single 'cause ...it's just lonely at the top!   

[drkaje]

It's a lot easier to get company when your presentation is good.

If someone has maximized their natural potential, I guess an occasional cycle isn't terrible. The risks just don't match the rewards in most cases. A lot of guys you see at the gym that juice never even compete or actually come off cycle. Some guys can't even lift without steroids.

Recreational lifters taking heavy cycles doesn't make sense to me. That being said, their bodies, their business.

[Havenbull]

I'd like to announce that Jag once said she would date me if I lived in Toronto

[Oliver Klaushof]

I'd like to announce that Jag once said she would date me if I lived in Toronto

details?

[gordiano]

Kiddies... JUST SAY NO! ...to steroids, squirrel nuts and man-boobies! 

Also, don't forget, say no to Amway and other scams as well.

[Eyeball Chambers]

Cool Thread.

When I read Adonis's posts I get the idea he might be a dick, but I think hes really cool for doing what he has done Steroid free. Same with Croatch and Goudy. Hope im on Goudys level by 19.

[Havenbull]

details?

they're sordid.

Let's keep this board clean, shall we

[the choad]

i'm natural boys.I'm 321 pounds at 22% bodyfat..the only steriod i use is cheque drops before powerlifting meets.