God did it - metabolism discovered OUTSIDE of the a cell

[Necrosis]

Quite the contrary actually.

It is often argued by those of the intelligence design persuasion, that the metabolic reactions required to form the building blocks of living cells were too complex to occur outside of a biological organism (i.e. a living cell). In other words the cell and the organism had to come first before the chemical reactions could occur.

What this paper shows (and what has been shown many times before going back as far as the Miller-Urey experiment in the 50's) is that the chemical reactions that can create the building blocks of the cell (and of life) can be created outside of a living cell.

This dispels the notion that the cells were "created" first. It is likely that the building blocks of life (amino acids, DNA, RNA, fats, etc) can be created under abiotic conditions, arising spontaneously in an aquatic environment where the correct combination of chemical ions are present along with a heat source (possibly from hydrothermal vents).

You must be mildly autistic

[Necrosis]

Speaking in a strictly faithless, only earthly logic based manner:

There is only one possible way to explain the natural, and that is to evoke the supernatural. 

Or you can accept the universe as inherently unexplainable. But people rarely do that, because they want to know something.

You are saying this like it's fact. Dude you suffer from delusions, always have. You are rooted in reality, your drug use etc. You have OCD quite obviously, you are obsessed with religion I bet.

[Necrosis]

Maybe he did. Tell you what. I'll send this article to a few people I know that are much smarter than you and I and see if I can't get a response. But unless you have more studies that can contradict it, it's just one theory. Since your people are constantly trying to prove evolution, we might have to conclude this is a bias article and falls in line with "Global Warming". Never trust a liberal or atheist to deliver accurate information. It's usually all about their politics and bullshitting the world. 

Are you a grown man?

did you drop out of school? what the fuck does this study done by people who invested their lives into this have to do with your delusions of conspiracy?

Why would I need studies to contradict it? what the fuck are you trying to say retard. Do you even know what I was implying?

[Necrosis]

Creating a "chemical reaction" and then making the conclusion that this can form complex life is like striking a match and then saying you have a Windows XP operating system. There are quite a few jumps involved.

Who made that conclusion?

Sounds like a strawman to me. This is abiogenesis, you are talking evolution. Read a book.

[Necrosis]

Coach again giving us a demostration of what a 80ish IQ can do.

it's hard to read and the voice in my head is stuttering and shit, it's an odd phenomenon. The only way you can understand him is by getting into the trenches with him and getting stupid.

[The Scott]

My faith requires me to ask questions.   Let's start with a few easy ones, shall we?

Why are you incapable of building a descent set of arms without drugs?

Why couldn't you refrain from impregnating your former girlfriend?

Why can't you keep your weenie in your pants instead of humping girls you just met?

Why do you have this fetish for prostitutes?

When are you going to evolve into more than just a one pump chump on AAS?  

And the big one.  Why am I even bothering to ask you questions as any answer given will be as juvenile as your outlook on what you call your life?

Nothing has all the answers to every question in life, including the Bible.   The Bible doesn't mention airplanes, cars, trains or motorcycles, does it?  And yet they exist today.  I have yet to read anything about telephones in the Bible but yes, they exist.  Why?  Because telephones, cars, trains, airplanes, movie theaters, polar bears and penguins, giraffes, motorcycles and  a host of other things up to, including and beyond Dana Lynn Bailey and Kai Greene posing together on one stage(that should have been an apocalyptic sign) are not matters of faith.

I don't worry about such things.  Faith is for the hope of something better at the end of all things.  Science cannot (yet?) create matter and life from nothing but it can make life better for all concerned.  Life is finite and for me and many I know, "faith" is about the hope in the promise of what comes after.  

You cannot make a leap of faith in two jumps.  Faith can also lead one to jump to conclusions but then it is wise to test those conclusions in the manner of science.  Empirically.  Example -  A man told me that he laid hands upon a man born without eyes and that man then grew eyes and could see.  I asked where the proof was. Where's the video?  The man said (more to the congregation that to me) "Do you doubt GOD!!!!".

I said, nope.  You're not God.  I doubt you.  Prove it.  Test the spirits as well as the lab samples.  I prefer my faith, my hope in something more after all this is over.  I hold fast to the hope of seeing loved ones again and being together for eternity.  I have no real idea if my faith will prove true but if not, so be it.  I will go to my end hoping for more.  I find no joy in the prospect of "nothing".  If Atheists do, fine.  But I doubt it. It is only human to hope and that is exactly what we are.  

[Tapeworm]

Speaking in a strictly faithless, only earthly logic based manner:

There is only one possible way to explain the natural, and that is to evoke the supernatural. 

Or you can accept the universe as inherently unexplainable. But people rarely do that, because they want to know something.

It's ok to simply say you believe.  It's a personal thing.  No need to back it up with odd metaphysical assertions.

[el numero uno]

Are you a grown man?

did you drop out of school? what the fuck does this study done by people who invested their lives into this have to do with your delusions of conspiracy?

Why would I need studies to contradict it? what the fuck are you trying to say retard. Do you even know what I was implying?

LOL, I swear I've read his comment like 10 times and still have no idea what he was trying to say.

[Necrosis]

LOL, I swear I've read his comment like 10 times and still have no idea what he was trying to say.

I keep thinking, he has to be trolling, but to troll like him requires a 150IQ, pure genius. The only logical conclusion is that he is in fact this dumb.

[tbombz]

It's ok to simply say you believe.  It's a personal thing.  No need to back it up with odd metaphysical assertions.

my friend, my belief is grounded in logic. I came to God through  study of the history of philosophical debate on metaphysics.

The simple fact is the either we evoke the supernatural to explain the natural or we accept that the natural is inherently unexplainable.

This is not an odd assertions, but in fact it is this very same assertion that modern science is based upon.

[tbombz]

Really, I am doing Atheists a favor by pointing this out. All you have to do is accept "Ok, the Universe is unexplainable. We can never explain origin or causation or anything regarding metaphysics or the emergence of consciousness. Everything just is"   ... and myself and all other people of faith could only say... "well, we have faith that things happen for a reason, and that  means we believe in God".

But you guys dont see whats right in front of your eyes. You  want to have your cake eat it too. You want to believe that things happen for a reason, but there is no reason for reason. You want to believe that things are explainable, but theres no explanation for why we can explain.  You see, but having eyes you do not see.

Now, all of this is outside of faith. Because when you step into Faith and you start to experience the Holy Spirit working miracles in your life, then you no longer care for science because the evidence is in front of your eyes.

I know I cant convince you to see the truth on my own, but I pray that God touches your heart and allows you to see it.

[anabolichalo]

TOMBZ THE ONLY REASON YOU ARE STILL GOING TO ALIVE IN A FEW YEARS IS BECAUSE OF SCIENCE CREATING AIDS MEDS


NOT THE 3 HAIL MARIES AND 2 OUR FATHERS BEFORE BED


A TRUE BELIEVER SHOULD NOT TAKE MEDICINE AND HAVE FAITH IN JEHOVA GOD TO HEAL HIM FROM ANY DISEASE


THIS IS A FACT

YOU

WILL

NOT

ADMIT

[Natural Man]

Really, I am doing Atheists a favor by pointing this out. All you have to do is accept "Ok, the Universe is unexplainable. We can never explain origin or causation or anything regarding metaphysics or the emergence of consciousness. Everything just is"   ... and myself and all other people of faith could only say... "well, we have faith that things happen for a reason, and that  means we believe in God".

But you guys dont see whats right in front of your eyes. You  want to have your cake eat it too. You want to believe that things happen for a reason, but there is no reason for reason. You want to believe that things are explainable, but theres no explanation for why we can explain.  You see, but having eyes you do not see.

Now, all of this is outside of faith. Because when you step into Faith and you start to experience the Holy Spirit working miraclesin your life, then you no longer care for science because the evidence is in front of your eyes.

I know I cant convince you to see the truth on my own, but I pray that God touches your heart and allows you to see it.

Does it feel like a deep tissue massage, only it's inside your ass?

[anabolichalo]

All these so-called "born again" Christians and bible bashers are all BULLSHIT. They just enjoy the "spiritual" aspects of religion and think they sound enlightened for talking nonsense all the time. An exercise in vanity pretty much.

The fact is like I just pointed out, they just like to be spiritual Christians when it suits them. Like in threads like this, oh they love it. But don't think they are giving it a second thought when they are beating off to hardcore porn 5 minutes later. Or when taking their aids meds and steroids.

Nope. Not a chance.

[Necrosis]

Really, I am doing Atheists a favor by pointing this out. All you have to do is accept "Ok, the Universe is unexplainable. We can never explain origin or causation or anything regarding metaphysics or the emergence of consciousness. Everything just is"   ... and myself and all other people of faith could only say... "well, we have faith that things happen for a reason, and that  means we believe in God".

But you guys dont see whats right in front of your eyes. You  want to have your cake eat it too. You want to believe that things happen for a reason, but there is no reason for reason. You want to believe that things are explainable, but theres no explanation for why we can explain.  You see, but having eyes you do not see.

Now, all of this is outside of faith. Because when you step into Faith and you start to experience the Holy Spirit working miracles in your life, then you no longer care for science because the evidence is in front of your eyes.

I know I cant convince you to see the truth on my own, but I pray that God touches your heart and allows you to see it.

Hearing someone say that the know there is no explanation is odd, the self contradictory statement is lost on them.

[tbombz]

It is in Gods great mercy that he allows for the development of medications to treat the illnesses which are a result of oursinfulness.  Because I tell you one thing, my faith alone isnt great enough to heal my body. And the Holy Spirit does not force things upon us.

Not that you would believe me, but I do try to keep Jesus in my thoughts 24/7...  

Not that you would even understand what any of this means... Because the message of the Cross ia foolishness to those who perish, but to those who are being saved it is the power of God

[tbombz]

Hearing someone say that the know there is no explanation is odd, the self contradictory statement is lost on them.

I urge you to think about why that is

[Melkor]

All these so-called "born again" Christians and bible bashers are all BULLSHIT. They just enjoy the "spiritual" aspects of religion and think they sound enlightened for talking nonsense all the time. An exercise in vanity pretty much.

The fact is like I just pointed out, they just like to be spiritual Christians when it suits them. Like in threads like this, oh they love it. But don't think they are giving it a second thought when they are beating off to hardcore porn 5 minutes later. Or when taking their aids meds and steroids.

Nope. Not a chance.

  So much truth in this. Many of these evangelical preachers come across as real psychopaths.

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[The Scott]

So much truth in this. Many of these evangelical preachers come across as real psychopaths.

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That's because they are false.  In it for profit, not to be a prophet.  They are scum.  I maintain that the money changers are no longer outside the temple, but own the temple. 

The message of Christ is simple and free.  These charlatans would have you believe otherwise. 

[Gonuclear]

Maybe he did. Tell you what. I'll send this article to a few people I know that are much smarter than you and I and see if I can't get a response. But unless you have more studies that can contradict it, it's just one theory. Since your people are constantly trying to prove evolution, we might have to conclude this is a bias article and falls in line with "Global Warming". Never trust a liberal or atheist to deliver accurate information. It's usually all about their politics and bullshitting the world. 

Spoken like a true cretin.   Remember to stop walking when you start chewing gum.

[tbombz]

Here you go, Getbig. I made this video just for this thread

[Necrosis]

Here you go, Getbig. I made this video just for this thread

so crack god open whats in him, how can you say god isn't made of other gods, you can never say, it's impossible to say you do is ignorant.

[Coach is Back!]

so crack god open whats in him, how can you say god isn't made of other gods, you can never say, it's impossible to say you do is ignorant.

I'd be lying if I said that you being some sort of doctor doesn't scare me more than it bothers me.

[Man of Steel]

Faith is confidence or trust in a person, thing, deity, view, or in the doctrines or teachings of a religion. It can also be defined as belief that is not based on proof,[1] as well as confidence based on some degree of warrant.[2][3] The word faith is often used as a synonym for hope,[4] trust,[5] or belief.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith

It can be defined that way yes but it's an ignorant definition.

[Man of Steel]

Why?

Because in religion the "god did it" is pretty much the answer for everything.

Remember the debate between Bill The science guy and the other guy? Whenever Bill mentioned something that we still don't understand the religious guy will say "oh, but we already have an answer for that, it's in the bible".

Yeah, that's why.

That was a simple debate designed for the masses.  Ken Hamm doesn't have much depth. Most likely this was the only religious debate most will ever watch.  I've watched weeks worth of debates that would shred that to pieces.  Unfortunately that's all most folks will ever know.