I`m good friends with retired IFBB pro bodybuilder Dave Mastorakis seen below back in the day....Dave is from a small nearby suburb of my home town.
Dave was the youngest IFBB Mr. America contestant in history at age 15.
Mentzer saw this contest and had to meet Dave since he never met another kid with muscles.
Remember,at this point in time,there wasn`t a lot of bodybuilders like there is today............they looked better though!
As a kid he met Mike Mentzer when Mike was 16 and corresponded with him for a while via snail mail, then met him and they trained off and on together along with Ray Mentzer for many years.
Dave stopped by my house one day and I asked him a lot of questions.
He told me that while they all trained using high volume,that he and Ray seemed to have stopped making gains but Mike was getting huge.
They inquired and Mike finally admitted after quite some time, that he was juicing.....I`m going way back here obviosly as it was their first experience using gear.
Then all 3 jumped on the gas.
Mike trained hard just like everyone else at the time,using high volume......just like everyone else at the time.
They ate a lot of meat and fruit...heavy on the carbs.
The ice cream story is exaggerated.
Only after Mike got into Arthur Jones theories,did he start using HIT then later "Heavy Duty',but he built the majority of his size using volume.
Deca and D-Bol along with Test was used basically,but they would use other stuff if they could get their hands on it....just like everybody else.
I posted this on here before,but when I was a kid,I saw the Mentzrers and Mastorakis in the mall downtown...this is before they became famous,and they were fucking huge............like something out of a Marvel comic..........to me back then they were anyway.