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Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
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Description
Gerson therapy is a form of alternative cancer treatment involving coffee enemas, supplements, juicing, and a special diet that is claimed to cleanse the body, boost the immune system, and stimulate metabolism.

Overview
Available scientific evidence does not support claims that Gerson therapy is effective in treating cancer, and the principles behind it are not widely accepted by the scientific and medical communities. It is not approved for use in the United States. Gerson therapy can be dangerous. Coffee enemas have been associated with serious infections, dehydration, constipation, colitis (inflammation of the colon), electrolyte imbalances, and even death.

How is it promoted for use?
Gerson therapy is considered a metabolic therapy (see Metabolic Therapy), and it is based on the theory that disease is caused by the body's accumulation of toxic substances. Practitioners believe that fertilizers, insecticides, herbicides, and other chemicals contaminate food by lowering its potassium content and raising its sodium content. Food processing adds more sodium, which changes the metabolism of cells in the body, eventually causing cancer.

According to practitioners of Gerson therapy, people who have cancer have too much sodium and not enough potassium in their cells. The fruit and vegetable diet that is part of Gerson therapy is used to correct this imbalance and revitalize the liver so it can rid the body of malignant cells. Coffee enemas, also part of Gerson therapy, are claimed to relieve pain and eliminate liver toxins in a process called detoxification.

The goal of metabolic therapies is to eliminate toxins from the body and enhance immune function so that the body can "fight off" cancer. Liver extract injections, pancreatic enzymes, and various supplements are said to stimulate metabolism. Proponents of metabolic therapy claim that it addresses the underlying cause of disease rather than treating the symptoms.

What does it involve?
Gerson therapy requires following a strict low-salt, low-fat, vegetarian diet and drinking juice from about twenty pounds of fresh fruits and vegetables each day. One glass of juice is consumed each hour, up to thirteen times a day. Some of the juices may be prepared ahead of time, and others must be prepared fresh each hour and drunk immediately. In addition, patients must take up to 5 coffee enemas each day, according to information on the Gerson Institute website. Various supplements, such as potassium, vitamin B12, pancreatic enzymes, thyroid hormone, and a special iodine (Lugol’s) solution, are used. All of this is intended to stimulate organ function, particularly of the liver and thyroid. Sometimes other treatments such as laetrile might also be recommended (see Laetrile).

The Gerson Institute does not own or operate any medical facilities. Instead, it refers patients to clinics it licenses. Currently the only licensed clinics are in Tijuana, Mexico and near Budapest, Hungary. Treatment for cancer is usually started at one of these inpatient clinics for a few weeks (the minimum stay at the Tijuana clinic is 2 weeks). Clinic fees can top $5,500 per week. Patients are expected to bring along a companion -- a friend, spouse, or relative -- to help with the treatment. Fees are collected up front, prior to admission. The patient continues the program at home after being discharged from the clinic.

The Gerson Institute estimates the start-up cost and the first month or so of home treatment to be over $2000 to $4,000 for equipment, supplies, supplements, organic foods, etc., depending on the type of equipment purchased. Given the frequency and involvement of the juicing, meals, enemas, etc., most people will need help with shopping and preparation. In addition, the Gerson Institute recommends buying a second refrigerator to store the produce.

Treatment may last from a few months to 10 years or more. Gerson proponents recommend that cancer patients follow the regimen for at least 2 years. People who cannot travel may opt for treatment at home without an inpatient stay.

What is the history behind it?
One of the oldest nutritional approaches to cancer treatment, the Gerson therapy was developed by Max Gerson, MD, a German doctor who immigrated to the United States in the late 1930s. He designed the dietary program to treat his own migraine headaches. He later expanded his method to treat other conditions such as arthritis, tuberculosis, and cancer. In 1945, Gerson published a preliminary report of his results in treating cancer in the Review of Gastroenterology. The National Cancer Institute and New York County Medical Society examined records of his patients and found no evidence that the method was effective against cancer.

The treatment method has evolved slightly over the years; for example, it once required drinking raw calves’ liver extract, but that was removed after the risks of raw liver were understood. An injectable liver extract was substituted.

After Max Gerson’s death in 1959, his work was carried on by his daughter, Charlotte Gerson, who established the Gerson Institute in the late 1970s. The Institute teaches others the Gerson method, and licenses clinics that closely follow their program.

What is the evidence?
There have been no well-controlled studies published in the available medical literature that show the Gerson therapy is effective in treating cancer.

In a review of the medical literature, researchers from the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center identified 7 human studies of Gerson therapy that have been published or presented at medical conferences. None of them were randomized controlled studies. One study was a look-back study (retrospective review) conducted by the Gerson Research Organization in 1995. They reported that when patients with melanoma, colorectal cancer, and ovarian cancer were treated with surgery and Gerson therapy, survival rates were higher than would normally be expected, but they did not provide statistics to support the results. Other studies have been small, had inconclusive results, or have been plagued by other problems (such as a large percentage of patients not completing the study), making it impossible to draw firm conclusions about the effectiveness of treatment.

Some parts of the Gerson regimen, such as eating large amounts of fruits and vegetables and limiting fat intake, can be part of a healthy diet if not taken to extremes. Researchers are continuing to study the potential anti-cancer properties of different substances in fruits and vegetables, but their individual and collective effects are not well understood at this time. Because of this, the best evidence suggests eating a balanced diet that includes 2 and ½ cups or more a day of vegetables and fruit, choosing whole grains over processed and refined foods, and limiting red meats and animal fats as well as alcohol. Choosing foods from a variety of fruits, vegetables, and other plant sources such as nuts, seeds, whole grain cereals, and beans is likely to be healthier than consuming large amounts of one particular type of food. Based on currently available evidence, diet is likely to play a greater role in preventing cancer than in treating it.

There is very little scientific evidence to support the use of other components of the Gerson regimen, such as consuming only fresh, raw juices prepared in a certain way, eliminating salt from the diet, and “detoxifying” the liver through coffee enemas and injected liver extracts. These methods have very little scientific evidence to support their use against cancer.

Are there any possible problems or complications?
Substances used in alternative medical practices may have not been thoroughly tested to find out how they interact with medicines, foods, or dietary supplements. Even though some reports of interactions and harmful effects may be published, full studies of interactions and effects are not often available. There may also be lesser-known methods used, other than the ones discussed here, which could potentially cause harm. Because of these limitations, any information on ill effects below should be considered incomplete.

Serious illness and death have rarely occurred from some parts of the treatment, such as the coffee enemas, which remove potassium from the body and can lead to electrolyte imbalances. Continued home use of enemas may cause the colon's normal function to weaken, worsening constipation problems and colitis. Some metabolic diets used in combination with enemas cause dehydration. There is at least one report of hot enemas causing serious problems such as burns, scarring, and rectal perforation (holes).

Serious infections may result from poorly administered liver extracts. Thyroid supplements may cause severe bleeding in patients who have cancer that has spread to the liver.

The Gerson Institute Web site suggests that people with diabetes, severe kidney damage, brain metastases, recent chemotherapy, or foreign body implants (pacemakers, breast implants, etc.) should not start this method without expert consultation and supervision. Gerson therapy may be especially hazardous to women who are pregnant or breast-feeding.

Relying on this treatment alone and avoiding or delaying conventional medical care for cancer may have serious health consequences.

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Re: Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2014, 07:41:55 AM »
cool so cancer is finally cured once and for all!

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Re: Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2014, 12:39:58 PM »
Description
Gerson therapy is a form of alternative cancer treatment involving coffee enemas, supplements, juicing, and a special diet that is claimed to cleanse the body, boost the immune system, and stimulate metabolism.

Overview
Available scientific evidence does not support claims that Gerson therapy is effective in treating cancer, and the principles behind it are not widely accepted by the scientific and medical communities. It is not approved for use in the United States. Gerson therapy can be dangerous. Coffee enemas have been associated with serious infections, dehydration, constipation, colitis (inflammation of the colon), electrolyte imbalances, and even death.

How is it promoted for use?
Gerson therapy is considered a metabolic therapy (see Metabolic Therapy), and it is based on the theory that disease is caused by the body's accumulation of toxic substances. Practitioners believe that fertilizers, insecticides, herbicides, and other chemicals contaminate food by lowering its potassium content and raising its sodium content. Food processing adds more sodium, which changes the metabolism of cells in the body, eventually causing cancer.

According to practitioners of Gerson therapy, people who have cancer have too much sodium and not enough potassium in their cells. The fruit and vegetable diet that is part of Gerson therapy is used to correct this imbalance and revitalize the liver so it can rid the body of malignant cells. Coffee enemas, also part of Gerson therapy, are claimed to relieve pain and eliminate liver toxins in a process called detoxification.

The goal of metabolic therapies is to eliminate toxins from the body and enhance immune function so that the body can "fight off" cancer. Liver extract injections, pancreatic enzymes, and various supplements are said to stimulate metabolism. Proponents of metabolic therapy claim that it addresses the underlying cause of disease rather than treating the symptoms.

What does it involve?
Gerson therapy requires following a strict low-salt, low-fat, vegetarian diet and drinking juice from about twenty pounds of fresh fruits and vegetables each day. One glass of juice is consumed each hour, up to thirteen times a day. Some of the juices may be prepared ahead of time, and others must be prepared fresh each hour and drunk immediately. In addition, patients must take up to 5 coffee enemas each day, according to information on the Gerson Institute website. Various supplements, such as potassium, vitamin B12, pancreatic enzymes, thyroid hormone, and a special iodine (Lugol’s) solution, are used. All of this is intended to stimulate organ function, particularly of the liver and thyroid. Sometimes other treatments such as laetrile might also be recommended (see Laetrile).

The Gerson Institute does not own or operate any medical facilities. Instead, it refers patients to clinics it licenses. Currently the only licensed clinics are in Tijuana, Mexico and near Budapest, Hungary. Treatment for cancer is usually started at one of these inpatient clinics for a few weeks (the minimum stay at the Tijuana clinic is 2 weeks). Clinic fees can top $5,500 per week. Patients are expected to bring along a companion -- a friend, spouse, or relative -- to help with the treatment. Fees are collected up front, prior to admission. The patient continues the program at home after being discharged from the clinic.

The Gerson Institute estimates the start-up cost and the first month or so of home treatment to be over $2000 to $4,000 for equipment, supplies, supplements, organic foods, etc., depending on the type of equipment purchased. Given the frequency and involvement of the juicing, meals, enemas, etc., most people will need help with shopping and preparation. In addition, the Gerson Institute recommends buying a second refrigerator to store the produce.

Treatment may last from a few months to 10 years or more. Gerson proponents recommend that cancer patients follow the regimen for at least 2 years. People who cannot travel may opt for treatment at home without an inpatient stay.

What is the history behind it?
One of the oldest nutritional approaches to cancer treatment, the Gerson therapy was developed by Max Gerson, MD, a German doctor who immigrated to the United States in the late 1930s. He designed the dietary program to treat his own migraine headaches. He later expanded his method to treat other conditions such as arthritis, tuberculosis, and cancer. In 1945, Gerson published a preliminary report of his results in treating cancer in the Review of Gastroenterology. The National Cancer Institute and New York County Medical Society examined records of his patients and found no evidence that the method was effective against cancer.

The treatment method has evolved slightly over the years; for example, it once required drinking raw calves’ liver extract, but that was removed after the risks of raw liver were understood. An injectable liver extract was substituted.

After Max Gerson’s death in 1959, his work was carried on by his daughter, Charlotte Gerson, who established the Gerson Institute in the late 1970s. The Institute teaches others the Gerson method, and licenses clinics that closely follow their program.

What is the evidence?
There have been no well-controlled studies published in the available medical literature that show the Gerson therapy is effective in treating cancer.

In a review of the medical literature, researchers from the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center identified 7 human studies of Gerson therapy that have been published or presented at medical conferences. None of them were randomized controlled studies. One study was a look-back study (retrospective review) conducted by the Gerson Research Organization in 1995. They reported that when patients with melanoma, colorectal cancer, and ovarian cancer were treated with surgery and Gerson therapy, survival rates were higher than would normally be expected, but they did not provide statistics to support the results. Other studies have been small, had inconclusive results, or have been plagued by other problems (such as a large percentage of patients not completing the study), making it impossible to draw firm conclusions about the effectiveness of treatment.

Some parts of the Gerson regimen, such as eating large amounts of fruits and vegetables and limiting fat intake, can be part of a healthy diet if not taken to extremes. Researchers are continuing to study the potential anti-cancer properties of different substances in fruits and vegetables, but their individual and collective effects are not well understood at this time. Because of this, the best evidence suggests eating a balanced diet that includes 2 and ½ cups or more a day of vegetables and fruit, choosing whole grains over processed and refined foods, and limiting red meats and animal fats as well as alcohol. Choosing foods from a variety of fruits, vegetables, and other plant sources such as nuts, seeds, whole grain cereals, and beans is likely to be healthier than consuming large amounts of one particular type of food. Based on currently available evidence, diet is likely to play a greater role in preventing cancer than in treating it.

There is very little scientific evidence to support the use of other components of the Gerson regimen, such as consuming only fresh, raw juices prepared in a certain way, eliminating salt from the diet, and “detoxifying” the liver through coffee enemas and injected liver extracts. These methods have very little scientific evidence to support their use against cancer.

Are there any possible problems or complications?
Substances used in alternative medical practices may have not been thoroughly tested to find out how they interact with medicines, foods, or dietary supplements. Even though some reports of interactions and harmful effects may be published, full studies of interactions and effects are not often available. There may also be lesser-known methods used, other than the ones discussed here, which could potentially cause harm. Because of these limitations, any information on ill effects below should be considered incomplete.

Serious illness and death have rarely occurred from some parts of the treatment, such as the coffee enemas, which remove potassium from the body and can lead to electrolyte imbalances. Continued home use of enemas may cause the colon's normal function to weaken, worsening constipation problems and colitis. Some metabolic diets used in combination with enemas cause dehydration. There is at least one report of hot enemas causing serious problems such as burns, scarring, and rectal perforation (holes).

Serious infections may result from poorly administered liver extracts. Thyroid supplements may cause severe bleeding in patients who have cancer that has spread to the liver.

The Gerson Institute Web site suggests that people with diabetes, severe kidney damage, brain metastases, recent chemotherapy, or foreign body implants (pacemakers, breast implants, etc.) should not start this method without expert consultation and supervision. Gerson therapy may be especially hazardous to women who are pregnant or breast-feeding.

Relying on this treatment alone and avoiding or delaying conventional medical care for cancer may have serious health consequences.

Of course it's bullshit. It has some benefits and will probably help some cancers just from all the polyphenols in that diet, but cancer isn't one thing per se, many types of cancer have completely different treatments, some depend on hormones, autoimmunity, it's too simple.

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Re: Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2014, 02:08:25 PM »
Total bs

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Re: Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2014, 02:19:25 PM »


apricot seed.

red ginseng extract.

all vegetable diet.

supposed to clean cancer up in 30 days.


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Re: Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2014, 03:39:52 PM »
There are a bunch of beneficial alternative treatments with real science if anyone actually cares.

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Re: Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2014, 04:04:24 PM »
Description
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What is the evidence?
There have been no well-controlled studies published in the available medical literature that show the Gerson therapy is effective in treating cancer.

yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada

Relying on this treatment alone and avoiding or delaying conventional medical care for cancer may have serious health consequences.

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Re: Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2017, 08:08:33 PM »
I used many medicine to treat cancer of my grandfather but not so much effective. I am excited to use Gerson method to see its best effects.

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Re: Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2017, 08:26:42 PM »
I looked after someone thru two bouts of breast cancer.
Oncologists are not stupid. Theyve heard of every "cure", despite what conspiracy theorists think, anyone who routinely has to tell people theyre gonna lose their partner, child, parents etc is sure as fk doing whatever they can to save a life, not make a profit off illness.

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Re: Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2017, 09:13:17 PM »
I looked after someone thru two bouts of breast cancer.
Oncologists are not stupid. Theyve heard of every "cure", despite what conspiracy theorists think, anyone who routinely has to tell people theyre gonna lose their partner, child, parents etc is sure as fk doing whatever they can to save a life, not make a profit off illness.


This^^

@2:48 - "As soon as he said 'Oncologist' I knew life was very different.



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Re: Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2017, 03:53:07 AM »
I would sooner cope with cancer than keep shooting coffee up my arse every day.

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Re: Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2017, 03:58:55 AM »
One thing is certain... the medical community does not want to cure cancer, or any serious disease.  All the big money is made in the treatment.  Treatment leads to death eventually.

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Re: Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2017, 04:12:06 AM »
I used many medicine to treat cancer of my grandfather but not so much effective. I am excited to use Gerson method to see its best effects.

that's what I had too, cancer of the grandfather

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Re: Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2017, 04:13:52 AM »
Cancer patients have things hard enough without shoving coffee enemas up their arse 5 times per day and never off the toilet from drinking a ridiculous amount of fruit juice

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Re: Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2017, 04:15:22 AM »
One thing is certain... the medical community does not want to cure cancer, or any serious disease.  All the big money is made in the treatment.  Treatment leads to death eventually.

LIFE leads to death eventually.  We gotta die of something

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Re: Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2017, 04:21:59 AM »
the reason cancer cases are on the up is because people are not dying of something else first.
The longer you live sooner or later you will get cancer, its basically natures way of culling humans.
The cells keep regenerating until it gets to a point where it mutates, that, is cancer.

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Re: Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2017, 04:30:10 AM »
the reason cancer cases are on the up is because people are not dying of something else first.
The longer you live sooner or later you will get cancer, its basically natures way of culling humans.
The cells keep regenerating until it gets to a point where it mutates, that, is cancer.

only humans get cancer  ???

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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2017, 04:32:33 AM »
only humans get cancer  ???
No, but natures way of culling all animals is humans...

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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2017, 04:46:06 AM »
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Re: Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2017, 04:52:57 AM »
Cancer occurs when a tumor grows faster than the immune system can kill it. So anything that slows the growth of the cancer and boosts the immune system is positive. People use diets and other things to try and slow it. Also conventional radiation and drug therapy try and do the same thing, slow the cancer growth so the immune system can kill it and put it into remission.


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Re: Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2017, 05:10:53 AM »
I would sooner cope with cancer than keep shooting coffee up my arse every day.

If you have a somewhat low body fat then your abs will be shredded due to the diuretic effect of the coffee pulling the water out of the ab area.  Was all the rage in the early 90s in Venice.

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Re: Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2017, 05:11:54 AM »
only humans get cancer  ???

Flat out not true, I had a pet with cancer.

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Re: Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2017, 05:13:34 AM »
Random poster bumps 3 year old thread with "first" post.
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« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2017, 08:42:00 AM »
Random poster bumps 3 year old thread with "first" post.


gotta give homeboy credit, he was prolly on google searching and this thread popped up. he had to register to post his 1 sentence response - we gotta get the enrollment up!



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Re: Gerson method of treating cancer bullshit or not
« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2017, 08:45:43 AM »
Avoid heme-iron and black people, you'll be fine

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