GOP civil war rages in Senate primary battles

[Kazan]

Yeah, but does it help further the party's goals of unseating the dems or does it just make true conservatives feel good?

I could care less what the "parties" goals are, hell I'll vote democrat if the candidate is doing what is in America's best interest.

[OzmO]

I could care less what the "parties" goals are, hell I'll vote democrat if the candidate is doing what is in America's best interest.

I am with ya there.  Problem is, a fragmented GOP can mean dem dominance.

[Dos Equis]

So you are saying that FOX doesn't demonize liberals on their "hard news" but MSM does with Conservatives?

Perhaps you can give some samples

Yes.  See the post above by John Matrix. 

[Dos Equis]

I could care less what the "parties" goals are, hell I'll vote democrat if the candidate is doing what is in America's best interest.

Yep.  Me too. 

[Straw Man]

So you are saying that FOX doesn't demonize liberals on their "hard news" but MSM does with Conservatives?

Perhaps you can give some samples

pretty funny how conservative see the world

also funny how they brag about the overwhelming ratings of Faux News as compared to MSNBC, et al yet when it comes time to complaining about their perception of unfair treatment by the media suddenly Faux is a mere drop in the bucket

[Soul Crusher]

pretty funny how conservative see the world

also funny how they brag about the overwhelming ratings of Faux News as compared to MSNBC, et al yet when it comes time to complaining about their perception of unfair treatment by the media suddenly Faux is a mere drop in the bucket

LOL - says the msnbc fan girl.    The reason there is never any battles within the RAT party is b/c its fully communist now

[OzmO]

Yes.  See the post above by John Matrix.  

You claim MSM hard news demonizes Conservatives and Fox's doesn't do it to Libs.


Don't see it.

I think most want a candidate who can get things done right regardless of party.

Not too many saw it in Romney, hence a turd so they voted for OB.

[Straw Man]

LOL - says the msnbc fan girl.    The reason there is never any battles within the RAT party is b/c its fully communist now

there is nothing in my statement that expresses support for MSNBC

I also told you that since you're too stupid to read you should stop replying to my posts

notice how you ran away from this thread

 

Clinton signed Gramm Leech bill that deregulated the derivatives market remember?  


Of course you do - but wont admit it

dude - just stop responding to my posts because you clearly don't even read them

I've never said it was all Bush's fault (though of course everything that's happened since then is all Obama's fault)

The asset bubble in real estate was created by de-regulation of commodity and banking which both parties were complicit in doing

The idiotic premise of this thread seems to be that Obama should have pressed the magical re-set button when he got into office rather than the actual reality of slowing recovering from an economic shit storm (and getting absolutely no cooperation from Repubs in doing so)

This topic has been covered ad nauseam on this board over the last six years

[Dos Equis]

You claim MSM hard news demonizes Conservatives and Fox's doesn't do it to Libs.


Don't see it.

I think most want a candidate who can get things done right regardless of party.

Not too many saw it in Romney, hence a turd so they voted for OB.

I said the Fox hard news doesn't.  The opinion shows do.  But there really is no denying what the MSM does, as Matrix laid out.  I see that all the time.  Subtle, but pervasive and effective. 

Most of the voters want a candidate from their party elected.  It's the independents and crossovers who decide presidential elections. 

[OzmO]

I said the Fox hard news doesn't.  The opinion shows do.  But there really is no denying what the MSM does, as Matrix laid out.  I see that all the time.  Subtle, but pervasive and effective. 

Most of the voters want a candidate from their party elected.  It's the independents and crossovers who decide presidential elections. 

such as?

[Dos Equis]

such as?

Exactly. We constantly see the following, in the mainstream media, to describe the Right, but NEVER the Left. The double standard is sickening:
'Hard line conservatives'
'Hard-right politician'
'Radicals'
'Radical elements in the republican party'
'Extremists'
'Extremist elements in the republican party'
'Controvertial right wing politician'

When is the last time you saw the exact same terms used to descibe the other side of the aisle?
'Hard line liberals'
'Hard left politician'
'Radicals'
'Radical elements in the democratic party'
'Extremists'
'Extremist elements in the democratic party'
'Controvertial left wing politician'

The double standards are staggering, and it is done on purpose

[Dos Equis]

Also numerous stories here:  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=401076.0

[OzmO]

Also numerous stories here:  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=401076.0

"Such as" meaning show some. 

Not list someone else's opinion, or a bunch of posts. 

show some hard news with "But there really is no denying what the MSM does, as Matrix laid out.  I see that all the time.  Subtle, but pervasive and effective."

[JOHN MATRIX]

"Such as" meaning show some. 

Not list someone else's opinion, or a bunch of posts. 

show some hard news with "But there really is no denying what the MSM does, as Matrix laid out.  I see that all the time.  Subtle, but pervasive and effective."

Go search any of the mainstream news outlets and find one single example of an article, any article, describing any democrat candidate using the terms i layed out above, or anything close to it. You know, the usual terms they use to describe  republicans.
You wont be able to find one.

[JOHN MATRIX]

so you think that Obama, Holder and Feinstein are extremists and Ted Cruz is relatively mundane?

Do I understand you correctly?

Absolutely

[Straw Man]

Go search any of the mainstream news outlets and find one single example of an article, any article, describing any democrat candidate using the terms i layed out above, or anything close to it. You know, the usual terms they use to describe  republicans.
You wont be able to find one.

first you have to have a Dem acting like an "extremist" or a "radical"

that's the problem

You've got Bernie Sanders and that's about it

I know you believe Holder, Obama and Feinstein and are examples but just because you see it that way does not make it how the majority of the country sees it

[Dos Equis]

"Such as" meaning show some. 

Not list someone else's opinion, or a bunch of posts. 

show some hard news with "But there really is no denying what the MSM does, as Matrix laid out.  I see that all the time.  Subtle, but pervasive and effective."

You're asking me to go find examples of thing I have seen and heard?  Uh, not unless you're going to get your checkbook and pay me.  

But seriously, I agree with his post.  I don't need to restate what he said.  And I posted numerous stories in the Liberal Media Bias thread.  I don't need to repeat those either.  That's part of the reason I created the thread.  

[JOHN MATRIX]

I thought we just had a thread that FOX had higher ratings than CNN, MSN, and all the other liberal news outlets combined?

FOX NEWS 2013 RATINGS MORE THAN MSNBC, CNN, HLN COMBINED

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/12/16/Fox-News-competition

Ok now add NBC, CBS, and ABC, Yahoo, Reuters, AP, etc....and see if Fox still 'outweighs' the entire rest of the mainstream media outlets all by itself  

[JOHN MATRIX]

first you have to have a Dem acting like an "extremist" or a "radical"

that's the problem

You've got Bernie Sanders and that's about it

I know you believe Holder, Obama and Feinstein and are examples but just because you see it that way does not make it how the majority of the country sees it

Between the two, who wants to 'fundamentally transform' the united states?

Obama/holder/feinstein, or ted cruz?

[Soul Crusher]

first you have to have a Dem acting like an "extremist" or a "radical"

that's the problem

You've got Bernie Sanders and that's about it

I know you believe Holder, Obama and Feinstein and are examples but just because you see it that way does not make it how the majority of the country sees it

LMFAO

[240 is Back]

Ok now add NBC, CBS, and ABC, Yahoo, Reuters, AP, etc....and see if Fox still 'outweighs' the entire rest of the mainstream media outlets all by itself 

oh, if you want to include web + print, I guess we'd have to move Drudge into the mix.  They're #1 in their division too.

and print?   Weekly standard, NRO, Takis, CSM, etc.   

[Soul Crusher]

Between the two, who wants to 'fundamentally transform' the united states?

Obama/holder/feinstein, or ted cruz?

you are on fire lately! 

[JOHN MATRIX]

you are on fire lately! 

im still waiting for one of the Lefties to explain how cruz is a 'crazy radical extremist'...guess the wait continues

[240 is Back]

im still waiting for one of the Lefties to explain how cruz is a 'crazy radical extremist'...guess the wait continues

which getbigger said that?

[OzmO]

You're asking me to go find examples of thing I have seen and heard?  Uh, not unless you're going to get your checkbook and pay me.  

But seriously, I agree with his post.  I don't need to restate what he said.  And I posted numerous stories in the Liberal Media Bias thread.  I don't need to repeat those either.  That's part of the reason I created the thread.  

I am just asking for some examples.  If you can't provide any, it suggests your claim is opinion not fact.