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Motivation to diet and train again
« on: May 12, 2014, 08:04:25 PM »
What's yours after a long break?

Even Shawn Ray got out of shape in the 2000s and had to start all over. In this 2007 video, he goes through what every retired IFBB pro goes through when the lights go out on stage, the sponsorships expire, the muscles shrinks, the fat comes back, and the fans forget you existed.



I feel a lot like he does here. A part of me wants to hit the weights hard (usually late at night, for some reason) and regain the six pack and shoulder/thigh veins on the hamstrings I used to have. The other runs out of steam after 3 days on a keto diet and wonders why the fuck even train anymore when you're surrounded by roid boys at the gym running cycles (not going back to that again now that my test is normal naturally after years at substandard levels).

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Re: Motivation to diet and train again
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2014, 08:09:50 PM »
you can do it...team guido...

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Re: Motivation to diet and train again
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2014, 08:10:18 PM »
you can do it...team guido...
Everyone says that.

Need more than cookie cutter this time around, bro. If I'm going all in, I can't back out. Think of it like getting on a rollercoaster and having doubts as you get to the top.

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Re: Motivation to diet and train again
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2014, 08:12:59 PM »
What's yours after a long break?

Even Shawn Ray got out of shape in the 2000s and had to start all over. In this 2007 video, he goes through what every retired IFBB pro goes through when the lights go out on stage, the sponsorships expire, the muscles shrinks, the fat comes back, and the fans forget you existed.



I feel a lot like he does here. A part of me wants to hit the weights hard (usually late at night, for some reason) and regain the six pack and shoulder/thigh veins on the hamstrings I used to have. The other runs out of steam after 3 days on a keto diet and wonders why the fuck even train anymore when you're surrounded by roid boys at the gym running cycles (not going back to that again now that my test is normal naturally after years at substandard levels).

The "fans" forget that you existed.

Fans.  ::)

I've seen the types of people that hang around those conventions. Them forgetting I existed would be considered one of the best blessings of my life.

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Re: Motivation to diet and train again
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2014, 08:14:29 PM »
Everyone says that.

Need more than cookie cutter this time around, bro. If I'm going all in, I can't back out. Think of it like getting on a rollercoaster and having doubts as you get to the top.
I never stop working out. Its one of the only things that matter. What you mean going all  in?
My motivation is not to be a fat fuck. That's a pretty good one

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Re: Motivation to diet and train again
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2014, 08:14:48 PM »
The "fans" forget that you existed.

Fans.  ::)

I've seen the types of people that hang around those conventions. Them forgetting I existed would be considered one of the best blessings of my life.
Yeah but imagine having DVDs of yourself that used to sell but don't anymore. Or messages on your FB fan page drying up.

It can't be easy when your entire bodybuilding career revolves around other peoples taking notice of your contests/guestposes/pics/etc.

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Re: Motivation to diet and train again
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2014, 08:15:29 PM »
I never stop working out. Its one of the only things that matter. What you mean going all  in?
My motivation is not to be a fat fuck. That's a pretty good one
I'm happy for you that you can be consistent.

Unfortunately I have Chris Cormier's attitude. When it's good, it's good. When it's bad, you quit. Actually, that could apply to most of the former IFBB pros, since very few still lift or diet or juice. Problem is the longer you're away from the weights, the harder it is to ever come close to what you used to have. It's like climbing a mountain even Sylvester Stallone couldn't cliffhang from.

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Re: Motivation to diet and train again
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2014, 08:17:26 PM »
labrada is one of the few...insane.

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Re: Motivation to diet and train again
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2014, 08:36:18 PM »
I'm happy for you that you can be consistent.

Unfortunately I have Chris Cormier's attitude. When it's good, it's good. When it's bad, you quit. Actually, that could apply to most of the former IFBB pros, since very few still lift or diet or juice. Problem is the longer you're away from the weights, the harder it is to ever come close to what you used to have. It's like climbing a mountain even Sylvester Stallone couldn't cliffhang from.
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 Wow im in shock to hear this from you.  You better stop whining and get back on it. That's all there is do it. Life is so much better. Just have to overcome your inner Schweinehund and do it. You are going to love it once you start again. That's what we do we lift! ;)

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Re: Motivation to diet and train again
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2014, 09:29:48 PM »
I'm happy for you that you can be consistent.

Unfortunately I have Chris Cormier's attitude. When it's good, it's good. When it's bad, you quit. Actually, that could apply to most of the former IFBB pros, since very few still lift or diet or juice. Problem is the longer you're away from the weights, the harder it is to ever come close to what you used to have. It's like climbing a mountain even Sylvester Stallone couldn't cliffhang from.
Wow im in shock to hear this from you.  You better stop whining and get back on it. That's all there is do it. Life is so much better. Just have to overcome your inner Schweinehund and do it. You are going to love it once you start again. That's what we do we lift! ;)

I feel lifting is a very personal thing. I don't get motivated by what other guys at my gym or on this website do. It's a very hard decision to go back just as it was a hard one to walk away. Motivation is a living, sweaty, breathing organ in your mind. It's not a static policy that doesn't move or change with time like a book on a shelf or a piece of meat in a freezer. That's the hard part. There's bad training days and good ones. When the bad one stack up too high, it's like the blocks in Tetris reaching the top of the screen. The game's over. I'm trying to slide a straight bar into the pile of blocks pushing up against the ceiling to get a bit of room going.

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Re: Motivation to diet and train again
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2014, 10:29:51 PM »
It's hard. Guess it depends how busy your life is? At the moment for me training 4 days a week is an uninmaginable fantasy due to insane work and travel commitments. I manage 1 day, maybe 2 sessions a week. Just make sure the diet is spot on if your training drops.

And also, as you age, priorities and interests change. I've not wanted 'big muscles' since a few years now. I'm just happy with being in shape. If being 'huge' was a must for me, I'd pick up the needle like all other big guys on here. My life has moved on from spending endless hours in the gym or fretting about my bench numbers. It just doesn't matter any more. My goals have changed and for the moment are more career orientated.
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Re: Motivation to diet and train again
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2014, 11:24:26 PM »
Yeah but imagine having DVDs of yourself that used to sell but don't anymore. Or messages on your FB fan page drying up.

It can't be easy when your entire bodybuilding career revolves around other peoples taking notice of your contests/guestposes/pics/etc.

Icelord you got this man, as you know the hardest part is just getting started after 3 weeks and your in a routine it will all start falling into place! Stay at it man I'm on your team man

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Re: Motivation to diet and train again
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2014, 12:04:42 AM »
What's yours after a long break?

Even Shawn Ray got out of shape in the 2000s and had to start all over. In this 2007 video, he goes through what every retired IFBB pro goes through when the lights go out on stage, the sponsorships expire, the muscles shrinks, the fat comes back, and the fans forget you existed.



I feel a lot like he does here. A part of me wants to hit the weights hard (usually late at night, for some reason) and regain the six pack and shoulder/thigh veins on the hamstrings I used to have. The other runs out of steam after 3 days on a keto diet and wonders why the fuck even train anymore when you're surrounded by roid boys at the gym running cycles (not going back to that again now that my test is normal naturally after years at substandard levels).

He asked the clown "Is your name King Kamali?"  ;D

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Re: Motivation to diet and train again
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2014, 12:22:35 AM »
Everyone says that.

Need more than cookie cutter this time around, bro. If I'm going all in, I can't back out. Think of it like getting on a rollercoaster and having doubts as you get to the top.

the motivation comes from within

if you have that you are good to go

if you dont only you can give it to yourself
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Re: Motivation to diet and train again
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2014, 12:42:02 AM »
Everyone says that.

Need more than cookie cutter this time around, bro. If I'm going all in, I can't back out. Think of it like getting on a rollercoaster and having doubts as you get to the top.
Short term goals
Dont think "shredded by August", you need small steps to get yourself motivated.
TBH coming on this site gave me a kick up the arse, seeing guys dieting and getting in shape, listening to Gals stories about his dieting and 'no ones' baseless  ;D attacks about how out of shape I was.
post some pics, get attacked by the guys here, its all just banter after all, and start dieting and make improvements.

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Re: Motivation to diet and train again
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2014, 12:52:36 AM »
Short term goals
Dont think "shredded by August", you need small steps to get yourself motivated.
TBH coming on this site gave me a kick up the arse, seeing guys dieting and getting in shape, listening to Gals stories about his dieting and 'no ones' baseless  ;D attacks about how out of shape I was.
post some pics, get attacked by the guys here, its all just banter after all, and start dieting and make improvements.

This place is giving me some serious body dysmorphia. :D I looked good by normal human standards 2 years ago, about 190 Lbs. But being on here too much I decided to bulk up because anything under 240 is "do you even lift?"-territory here. So now I'm big again, but fat. Then I use that as motivation to cut again.

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Re: Motivation to diet and train again
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2014, 02:23:12 AM »
My motivation comes from social pressures. In winter I can come off and as long that I stay trim which is easy for me as I dont get fat easily I'm happy....go out wearign shirts and jackets...etc. No big deal.

Now comes summer and tshirt season and then a couple of holidays booked, then I take one look in the mirror and wonder how shit I will look by the pool and start panic training and eating well.

 
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Re: Motivation to diet and train again
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2014, 06:32:27 AM »
It's hard. Guess it depends how busy your life is? At the moment for me training 4 days a week is an uninmaginable fantasy due to insane work and travel commitments. I manage 1 day, maybe 2 sessions a week. Just make sure the diet is spot on if your training drops.

And also, as you age, priorities and interests change. I've not wanted 'big muscles' since a few years now. I'm just happy with being in shape. If being 'huge' was a must for me, I'd pick up the needle like all other big guys on here. My life has moved on from spending endless hours in the gym or fretting about my bench numbers. It just doesn't matter any more. My goals have changed and for the moment are more career orientated.
Busy enough, but not too much to go to the gym 4-5x a week. People who say they have no time have either never exercised seriously, or don't want to. It's like any excuse system - there's always a way out if you want one.

The second paragraph is more astute and relevant. Lifting was my life from 19-24. I'd get up in the early morning, go do my cardio at a small local gym, come home, shower/eat, then go to a bigger gym for my real workout. Did that 5-6 days a week. Was on the diet, got lean enough to pass for a swimsuit-style magazine model with decent arms/legs, and was genuinely happy with my look.

Then I got older and less competitive. Being big or lean didn't matter as much. Women started to care less about that and more about other things. I quit clubbing. The diet got boring and I went back to eating like a normal person, which in my case means about 2000kcal more than average (appetite holdover from rugby). I put on weight. The gym became less attractive. I'm injured in several muscle groups. And finally I quit working out altogether 8 months ago. It shows. I'm smaller than I used to be even 3 years ago, and obviously not lean anymore. I'd say I look about how bigmc was in that guitar video. It's a long road back and I usually run out of steam about a few weeks.

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Re: Motivation to diet and train again
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2014, 06:33:14 AM »
the motivation comes from within

if you have that you are good to go

if you dont only you can give it to yourself
Therein lies the problem. I never had it in myself just because I gave it to myself. It was heavily oriented around the anabolichalo mentality of looking good for women or the public in general. As that declined in importance, so did the elan to go on.

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Re: Motivation to diet and train again
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2014, 06:34:10 AM »
Therein lies the problem. I never had it in myself just because I gave it to myself. It was heavily oriented around the anabolichalo mentality of looking good for women or the public in general. As that declined in importance, so did the elan to go on.

there must be an element of motivation for you to start this thread

focus on that

might get you going
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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2014, 06:34:12 AM »
Short term goals
Dont think "shredded by August", you need small steps to get yourself motivated.
TBH coming on this site gave me a kick up the arse, seeing guys dieting and getting in shape, listening to Gals stories about his dieting and 'no ones' baseless  ;D attacks about how out of shape I was.
post some pics, get attacked by the guys here, its all just banter after all, and start dieting and make improvements.
Gal is inspirational enough. But there's things he did to look the way he does that would be incompatible with my lifestyle or personal needs at the time being. So instead, I would say I admire his physique but I have to find another way 'round the problems of not training/dieting.

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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2014, 06:35:47 AM »
there must be an element of motivation for you to start this thread

focus on that

might get you going
There is. I miss looking the way I did and benching 315 for reps. That was all me. But the pivotal inspiration came from either other, more fit individuals, or the reactions I got from people who appreciated my look. Bigger men don't mean beans to me now. And women care more about money and other things that are less labor-intensive. So it's trying to turn a few droplets of motivation into a full vase that's the main challenge.

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« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2014, 06:36:19 AM »
My motivation comes from social pressures. In winter I can come off and as long that I stay trim which is easy for me as I dont get fat easily I'm happy....go out wearign shirts and jackets...etc. No big deal.

Now comes summer and tshirt season and then a couple of holidays booked, then I take one look in the mirror and wonder how shit I will look by the pool and start panic training and eating well.

 
Those social pressures have been removed from me. Perhaps unfortunately. They kept me focused and were my main motivation. I won't lie, how women saw me was a huge factor.

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Re: Motivation to diet and train again
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2014, 06:37:29 AM »
There is. I miss looking the way I did and benching 315 for reps. That was all me. But the pivotal inspiration came from either other, more fit individuals, or the reactions I got from people who appreciated my look. Bigger men don't mean beans to me now. And women care more about money and other things that are less labor-intensive. So it's trying to turn a few droplets of motivation into a full vase that's the main challenge.

I enjoy training it makes it much easier

if you don't then its difficult to see how you could sustain it for any length of time
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« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2014, 06:40:34 AM »
I enjoy training it makes it much easier

if you don't then its difficult to see how you could sustain it for any length of time
Aye. In other words, I can train and get pumps. I feel satisfied from the quality of the workouts.

What's lacking is an honest motive. I feel like I don't have any purpose there anymore, since my previous reasons have been discarded. Think of it like someone who used to work in television repair for analog systems. In the age of antenna-less flat screen televisions, they're basically out of a job with their old skill set.