Obama Admn FCC votes to end Net Neutrality. More lies from O-twink

[James28]

Not a problem at all.

What I am concerned about is the stupidity regarding this subject.  They all have it backwards.  If Soul Crusher actually read the article he would see that Republican lawmakers want to end net neutrality whereas Obama and the Democrats want to preserve it, keeping the internet free from tiered service.

How can we re-educate them here?  Seriously, Shockwave and Soul and others, you have it backwards and don`t even realize it.

SC never reads the article past the headline. He has no problem admitting so himself. He doesn't care about looking stupid either. He just merrily goes and make another 10 threads with at least 9 of those being dumb as the article header usually contradicts the content.

[The True Adonis]

SC never reads the article past the headline. He has no problem admitting so himself. He doesn't care about looking stupid either. He just merrily goes and make another 10 threads with at least 9 of those being dumb as the article header usually contradicts the content.

Its not just him though, its widespread among similar thinking people. 

[Soul Crusher]

I dont trust obama on this or anything.   What he says vs what he does are always 2 different things. 

[The True Adonis]

I dont trust obama on this or anything.   What he says vs what he does are always 2 different things. 

[polychronopolous]

I dont trust obama on this or anything.   What he says vs what he does are always 2 different things. 

If Barack Obama opens his mouth he's lying.

[Soul Crusher]

Name the issue and I will provide ample evidence of O-Kenya saying and promising one thing - yet in reality doing the exact opposite

[The True Adonis]

Name the issue and I will provide ample evidence of O-Kenya saying and promising one thing - yet in reality doing the exact opposite

So you support Net Neutrality then regardless of Obama and are against the Republicans and their wanting to create a tiered internet which would give full power to cable companies enabling them to charge more for content based subscriptions and bandwidth?

[240 is Back]

net neutrality is a sticky one.   name one congressman/senate/prez that hasn't taken a dump truck of $ from the telecom companies... 

liz warren even?

[Archer77]

Net neutrality is a good thing.  Can we trust the FCC not to screw it up?  Would the FCC go after content it doesn't like?  What do you guys think?

[The True Adonis]

net neutrality is a sticky one.   name one congressman/senate/prez that hasn't taken a dump truck of $ from the telecom companies... 

liz warren even?

Bernie Sanders.

[The True Adonis]

[240 is Back]

Bernie Sanders.

I'm sure 333386 can counter this.

[Soul Crusher]

How about we just leave it alone  - yeah just what we need Obama and a socialist like Bernie Sanders regulating the web.   lmfao

Obama cant even get oshitcare to work after spending BILLIONs on it - yeah lets trust him to regulate the web along an 80 year old washed up communist.   

[The True Adonis]

How about we just leave it alone  - yeah just what we need Obama and a socialist like Bernie Sanders regulating the web.   lmfao

Obama cant even get oshitcare to work after spending BILLIONs on it - yeah lets trust him to regulate the web along an 80 year old washed up communist.   

Republicans don`t want to "just leave it alone" which is why these measures must be taken.  If they did "just want to leave it alone" it would not be necessary.  Obama wants something that will ensure that they can`t mess with the internet for years to come.  The Republicans already voted in the House in 2011 to end Net Neutrality, messing with the internet, luckily the Democrats in the Senate were there to stop them.

Now they want to try again.  So you see who wants to mess with the internet and who wants to just leave it alone.  Sadly, you and others either have no clue whats at stake, what is going on and the implications this has, or will just vote and support moron Republicans because you would rather vote with hatred than with thought and rationality.  Its fucked up and this is one of the most fucked up things that WILL happen if you support the Ted Cruzs, Rand Pauls and Paul Ryans.  Say bye to the internet as you know it.

As much as it kills you to support a Democrat please do it this time.  This is not about politics, its about what is right and what is stupid.  Its really not a partisan issue, but Republicans want it to be and they are on the wrong side BIG TIME.

[Soul Crusher]

I'm not a republican - but I don't trust Obama one bit on this or anything else.  Past performance in his case is a very accurate predictor of future results. 

Republicans don`t want to "just leave it alone" which is why these measures must be taken.  If they did "just want to leave it alone" it would not be necessary.  Obama wants something that will ensure that they can`t mess with the internet for years to come.  The Republicans already voted in the House in 2011 to end Net Neutrality, messing with the internet, luckily the Democrats in the Senate were there to stop them.

Now they want to try again.  So you see who wants to mess with the internet and who wants to just leave it alone.  Sadly, you and others either have no clue whats at stake, what is going on and the implications this has, or will just vote and support moron Republicans because you would rather vote with hatred than with thought and rationality.  Its fucked up and this is one of the most fucked up things that WILL happen if you support the Ted Cruzs, Rand Pauls and Paul Ryans.  Say bye to the internet as you know it.

As much as it kills you to support a Democrat please do it this time.  This is not about politics, its about what is right and what is stupid.  Its really not a partisan issue, but Republicans want it to be and they are on the wrong side BIG TIME.

[Archer77]

Republicans don`t want to "just leave it alone" which is why these measures must be taken.  If they did "just want to leave it alone" it would not be necessary.  Obama wants something that will ensure that they can`t mess with the internet for years to come.  The Republicans already voted in the House in 2011 to end Net Neutrality, messing with the internet, luckily the Democrats in the Senate were there to stop them.

Now they want to try again.  So you see who wants to mess with the internet and who wants to just leave it alone.  Sadly, you and others either have no clue whats at stake, what is going on and the implications this has, or will just vote and support moron Republicans because you would rather vote with hatred than with thought and rationality.  Its fucked up and this is one of the most fucked up things that WILL happen if you support the Ted Cruzs, Rand Pauls and Paul Ryans.  Say bye to the internet as you know it.

As much as it kills you to support a Democrat please do it this time.  This is not about politics, its about what is right and what is stupid.  Its really not a partisan issue, but Republicans want it to be and they are on the wrong side BIG TIME.

Do we want to make what well may be a Faustian Bargain with FCC? We might get what we want in the short term but  there could be terrible consequences in the future.  Convince me.

[Shockwave]

Do we want to make what well may be a Faustian Bargain with FCC? We might get what we want in the short term but  there could be terrible consequences in the future.  Convince me.

this.

I keep asking exactly WHAT theyre trying to do, what their rules/regulations are going to be, and no one can tell me. Just more hollow words from our electes snakes.

[The True Adonis]

this.

I keep asking exactly WHAT theyre trying to do, what their rules/regulations are going to be, and no one can tell me. Just more hollow words from our electes snakes.

Here.  Scroll down and the links present everything in their entirety.  Covers everything including past meetings and all documents.  Now you have no excuse.

http://www.fcc.gov/openinternet

And another abbreviated with a guide at the bottom.

http://www.fcc.gov/guides/open-internet

[The True Adonis]

Do we want to make what well may be a Faustian Bargain with FCC? We might get what we want in the short term but  there could be terrible consequences in the future.  Convince me.

There is no bargain as the FCC gets nothing out of it. 

[Shockwave]

Here.  Scroll down and the links present everything in their entirety.  Covers everything including past meetings and all documents.  Now you have no excuse.

http://www.fcc.gov/openinternet

And another abbreviated with a guide at the bottom.

http://www.fcc.gov/guides/open-internet

Read it, still didnt see the actual proposal.

Just saw more of the same thing that everone ekse is saying on both sides of fence.

'Were dedicated to preserving net neutrality and a free and open internet blah blah blah', no actual proposal, no actual regs. Just more buzz words with no actual substance.

[The True Adonis]

Read it, still didnt see the actual proposal.

Just saw more of the same thing that everone ekse is saying on both sides of fence.

'Were dedicated to preserving net neutrality and a free and open internet blah blah blah', no actual proposal, no actual regs. Just more buzz words with no actual substance.

You didn`t click this link?

http://www.fcc.gov/document/protecting-and-promoting-open-internet-nprm

[The True Adonis]

Read it, still didnt see the actual proposal.

Just saw more of the same thing that everone ekse is saying on both sides of fence.

'Were dedicated to preserving net neutrality and a free and open internet blah blah blah', no actual proposal, no actual regs. Just more buzz words with no actual substance.

Here is whats at stake.

You like the internet the way it is and want to improve service with costs not going up for anyone or any site, you are with Obama and the Democrats and whoever else supports these regulations by the FCC.

or

You want to pay more for the internet, limit your ability to download at certain speeds, want a capped bandwidth, want limited access to sites, want more ads and a limited search engine all at higher costs, complete control goes to your ISP provider- you are with the Republicans and everything they wish to do.  

The Republicans are not hiding this at all.  They already voted in 2011 to end Net Neutrality.  They WILL do this.  There is no secret agenda, its not a conspiracy theory, its very real.  

There is no fence.  These are your choices.

[The True Adonis]

Not voting, doing nothing to research this topic, letting the Republicans take control will only get you tiered internet service.

Its really an easy decision. 

[The True Adonis]

Read it, still didnt see the actual proposal.

Just saw more of the same thing that everone ekse is saying on both sides of fence.

'Were dedicated to preserving net neutrality and a free and open internet blah blah blah', no actual proposal, no actual regs. Just more buzz words with no actual substance.

Read that last link I gave you.  All the rules are there, lots of pages but its all there.

This pretty much sums it up:

Today, there are no legally enforceable rules by which the Commission can stop
broadband providers from limiting Internet openness. This Notice begins the process of closing that gap,
by proposing to reinstitute the no-blocking rule adopted in 2010 and creating a new rule that would bar
commercially unreasonable actions from threatening Internet openness (as well as enhancing the
transparency rule that is currently in effect)

[Soul Crusher]

Nothing going to happen regardless.   Obama is all bark no bite