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Re: Obama Admn FCC votes to end Net Neutrality. More lies from O-twink
« Reply #50 on: November 11, 2014, 07:00:52 PM »
Nothing going to happen regardless.   Obama is all bark no bite
Bullshit.  The Republicans are ravenous on this.  They already voted in 2011 to end Net Neutrality and passed it in the Republican controlled House.  They are saying they plan to do it again, this time passing it through with their new found votes.

Do you not believe them?  Why would you support this shit?

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Re: Obama Admn FCC votes to end Net Neutrality. More lies from O-twink
« Reply #51 on: November 12, 2014, 05:00:06 AM »
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/11/11/the-fcc-weighs-breaking-with-obama-over-the-future-of-the-internet


Hours after President Obama called for the Federal Communications Commission to pass tougher regulations on high-speed Internet providers, the agency’s Democratic chairman told a group of business executives that he was moving in a different direction.

Huddled in an FCC conference room Monday with officials from major Web companies, including Google, Yahoo and Etsy, agency Chairman Tom Wheeler said he preferred a more nuanced solution. His approach would deliver some of what Obama wants but also would address the concerns of the companies that provide Internet access to millions of Americans, such as Comcast, Time Warner Cable and AT&T.

“What you want is what everyone wants: an open Internet that doesn’t affect your business,” a visibly frustrated Wheeler said at the meeting, according to four people who attended. “What I’ve got to figure out is how to split the baby.”

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Re: Obama Admn FCC votes to end Net Neutrality. More lies from O-twink
« Reply #52 on: November 12, 2014, 05:24:32 AM »
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/11/11/the-fcc-weighs-breaking-with-obama-over-the-future-of-the-internet


Hours after President Obama called for the Federal Communications Commission to pass tougher regulations on high-speed Internet providers, the agency’s Democratic chairman told a group of business executives that he was moving in a different direction.

Huddled in an FCC conference room Monday with officials from major Web companies, including Google, Yahoo and Etsy, agency Chairman Tom Wheeler said he preferred a more nuanced solution. His approach would deliver some of what Obama wants but also would address the concerns of the companies that provide Internet access to millions of Americans, such as Comcast, Time Warner Cable and AT&T.

“What you want is what everyone wants: an open Internet that doesn’t affect your business,” a visibly frustrated Wheeler said at the meeting, according to four people who attended. “What I’ve got to figure out is how to split the baby.”

So do you support Obama or not on this? 

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Re: Obama Admn FCC votes to end Net Neutrality. More lies from O-twink
« Reply #53 on: November 12, 2014, 05:52:48 AM »
So do you support Obama or not on this? 

Again - I don't trust a damn thing Obama says or does.   

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Re: Obama Admn FCC votes to end Net Neutrality. More lies from O-twink
« Reply #54 on: November 12, 2014, 07:34:21 AM »
Again - I don't trust a damn thing Obama says or does.   

Obama wants tougher laws on the internet companies.   Do you support this idea?  Or do you feel internet companies should have LESS regulation?

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Re: Obama Admn FCC votes to end Net Neutrality. More lies from O-twink
« Reply #55 on: November 12, 2014, 07:38:24 AM »
Obama wants tougher laws on the internet companies.   Do you support this idea?  Or do you feel internet companies should have LESS regulation?

I don't give a shit what Obama wants or not - its meaningless. 

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Re: Obama Admn FCC votes to end Net Neutrality. More lies from O-twink
« Reply #56 on: November 12, 2014, 07:43:22 AM »
I don't give a shit what Obama wants or not - its meaningless. 

Obama's at a point where the internet/telecoms are about to become more powerful than govt.

Remember, the banks own the govt, they're way more powerful.   

Now, the internet/phone companies are almost there - and Obama wants to stop them.   I think most if not ALL of us will agree with obama here.  The minute we have Yahoo or Google making laws, WHEW, look out lol.   

33, just this once, it's okay to say "Obama sucks and I don't trust him one bit, BUT I do support limiting the power of internet companies. 

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Re: Obama Admn FCC votes to end Net Neutrality. More lies from O-twink
« Reply #57 on: November 12, 2014, 08:22:43 AM »
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AT&T chief: Net neutrality uncertainty puts a pause in investing
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AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson warned that he will hold off on many of his company's capital investment plans if uncertainty persists over how the US government will regulate the Internet.

"It's prudent to pause," he said at an investor conference Wednesday. "We want to make sure we have line of sight on this process and where these rules could land, and then re-evaluate."

The comments come two days after President Obama threw his support behind the idea that broadband services providers should be regulated under Title II of the Telecommunications Act, which would treat Internet service providers more like utilities and would give the government more say over how much they can charge customers.

Obama's Monday announcement, addressed to the Federal Communications Commission, set off a flurry of responses. Broadband companies such as AT&T, Verizon and Comcast warned that the regulations would be onerous and would curtail investment and innovation. Consumer advocacy groups and Internet companies lauded the move, saying it was the only way to ensure Net neutrality, or the concept that all Web traffic is treated equally.

FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler said later on Monday that all options are on the table. Wheeler is reportedly looking at a middle-ground approach that would merge some Obama's proposals while addressing concerns from the Internet service providers.

While Stephenson said Obama's proposal provides clarity on his expectations for how the Internet should be regulated, he warned that the process of changing the rules to put broadband under Title II could take two to three years at worst, and a year at best. He also said that any such proposal would face legal challenges.

While this happens, capital investments could be curtailed, Stephenson said. AT&T last week said it expects to invest $18 billion in its network next year, but added that the number could drop if the uncertainty persists. Specifically, the company's goal of bringing faster fiber-optic lines into new cities could be put on hold until it gets more clarity on any potential Internet regulations.

AT&T had planned to invest in bringing its GigaPower 1-gigabit broadband service -- a competitor to Google's own super-fast Google Fiber service -- into 100 cities next year.

"We can't go out and invest that kind of network without knowing the rules governing the network," he said.

An area where Stephenson said he is making a bigger bet is in Mexico. The company said Friday that it plans to spend $2.5 billion to acquire Mexican carrier Iusacell.

Mexico has recently changed its telecommunications rules to enable more foreign investment, and Stephenson said he was impressed with how attractive it has become. The country has a growing middle class, a young population, and a vibrant economy, he said, adding that he wants to get in there ahead of the looming mobile Internet revolution.

"It'll be a terrific growth opportunity," he said.

He envisions a consistent network experience across the US and Mexico, which would give it a geographical edge over its rivals. In particular, he noted that AT&T's prepaid wireless business, Cricket, has a proportionately high number of Latino customers, which would work well with its pending Iusacell acquisition.

AT&T's other large deal is the pending $48.5 billion acquisition of DirecTV. Stephenson acknowledged that with 6 million U-Verse TV customers, its television business lacked the scale to make money, with most of the costs sunk on paying for the content itself.

DirecTV brings in 20.3 million customers, giving it the scale to profitably run a television business and negotiate for additional content rights on mobile, which Stephenson said would be a priority once the deal closes, expected some time next year.

Stephenson also talked about the "hypercompetitive" environment on wireless, boasting that it was willing to defend the "premiere smartphone customer base we have built."

AT&T has found itself drawn into a price-and-data war largely spurred on by T-Mobile and Sprint, which have thrown out an increasing number of discounts and additional data packages in an effort to take market share.

Even as AT&T's capital expenditure total drops off -- its 2015 target is $3 billion lower than this year -- Stephenson said the network remains a priority.

"We won't compromise on best-in-class network performance," he said.


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Re: Obama Admn FCC votes to end Net Neutrality. More lies from O-twink
« Reply #59 on: November 13, 2014, 01:19:52 PM »
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Americans really like the online service they currently have and strongly oppose so-called “net neutrality” efforts that would allow the federal government to regulate the Internet.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 26% of American Adults agree the Federal Communications Commission should regulate the Internet like it does radio and television. Sixty-one percent (61%) disagree and think the Internet should remain open without regulation and censorship. Thirteen percent (13%) are not sure.  (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Only 19% believe more government regulation is the best way to protect those who use the Internet. Fifty-six percent (56%) feel more free market competition is the best protection. Twenty-five percent (25%) are undecided.

Most Americans have opposed increased government regulation of the Internet since December 2010 when some members of the FCC began pushing “net neutrality” efforts to stop some companies from offering higher downloading speeds to preferred customers.

Seventy-six percent (76%) of Americans who regularly go online rate the quality of their Internet service as good or excellent. Only five percent (5%) consider their service poor.

Americans remain suspicious of the motives of those who want government regulation of the Internet. Sixty-eight percent (68%) are concerned that if the FCC does gain regulatory control over the Internet, it will lead to government efforts to control online content or promote a political agenda, with 44% who are Very Concerned. Twenty-seven percent (27%) don’t share this concern about possible government abuse, but that includes only eight percent (8%) who are Not At All Concerned.

Fifty-six percent (56%) of voters said in December 2010 that if the FCC was given the authority to regulate the Internet, it would use that power to promote a political agenda.

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The survey of 1,000 American Adults was conducted on November 11-12, 2014 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

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Earlier this year, the FCC in the face of strong public opposition backed off a plan to determine if the news media is meeting the public’s “critical information needs.” Voters strongly believe news content is none of the federal government’s business.

Younger Americans are far more likely than their elders to use the Internet every day or nearly every day, but adults of all ages give high marks to the Internet service they receive.

Opposition to government regulation of the Internet is highest among Americans under 40 and those who use the Internet regularly.

Sixty-five percent (65%) of Republicans and 70% of adults not affiliated with either major party oppose FCC regulation of the Internet. Democrats agree but by a much narrower 48% to 37% margin.

But then only 33% of Democrats are Very Concerned that FCC regulatory control will lead to government efforts to control online content or promote a political agenda. That compares to 58% of Republicans and 43% of unaffiliateds.

Only 42% of all voters have been following recent news reports about Internet neutrality issues, with 18% who have been following Very Closely.

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Re: Obama Admn FCC votes to end Net Neutrality. More lies from O-twink
« Reply #60 on: November 13, 2014, 01:56:30 PM »
Obama's at a point where the internet/telecoms are about to become more powerful than govt.

Remember, the banks own the govt, they're way more powerful.  

Now, the internet/phone companies are almost there - and Obama wants to stop them.   I think most if not ALL of us will agree with obama here.  The minute we have Yahoo or Google making laws, WHEW, look out lol.  

33, just this once, it's okay to say "Obama sucks and I don't trust him one bit, BUT I do support limiting the power of internet companies.  

All well and good but no one is considering possible consequences.  We have no specific details of what exactly the legislation would be. 
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Re: Obama Admn FCC votes to end Net Neutrality. More lies from O-twink
« Reply #61 on: November 13, 2014, 02:57:57 PM »
All well and good but no one is considering possible consequences.  We have no specific details of what exactly the legislation would be. 
bingo. All ive seen is very vague generalizations, and it bothers me a lot that thr FCC chairman was a telecom lobbyist and Comcast is backing this.

They stand to gain something.

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Re: Obama Admn FCC votes to end Net Neutrality. More lies from O-twink
« Reply #62 on: November 13, 2014, 03:17:28 PM »
bingo. All ive seen is very vague generalizations, and it bothers me a lot that thr FCC chairman was a telecom lobbyist and Comcast is backing this.

They stand to gain something.
 

People are leaping before they look.  As a cynic, I see this as a blatant attempt to appeal to younger voters.  As we just learned this administration is comfortable tricking the stupid voters by avoiding transparency to get something passed. 
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« Reply #63 on: November 13, 2014, 06:33:37 PM »
All well and good but no one is considering possible consequences.  We have no specific details of what exactly the legislation would be.  
We do.  I have posted the link three times. 

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« Reply #64 on: November 13, 2014, 06:36:10 PM »
bingo. All ive seen is very vague generalizations, and it bothers me a lot that thr FCC chairman was a telecom lobbyist and Comcast is backing this.

They stand to gain something.
  What happened the other times when I posted it?  No clicky?  ???

http://www.fcc.gov/document/protecting-and-promoting-open-internet-nprm

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Re: Obama Admn FCC votes to end Net Neutrality. More lies from O-twink
« Reply #65 on: November 13, 2014, 06:39:25 PM »
 

People are leaping before they look.  As a cynic, I see this as a blatant attempt to appeal to younger voters.  As we just learned this administration is comfortable tricking the stupid voters by avoiding transparency to get something passed. 
I was in the test market for Tiered Internet and I can tell you its something you DO NOT want.  You allow them to end Net Neutrality Tiered Internet is going to be the norm for everyone.  Do you not believe the Republicans?  They already voted on it once in 2011 and passed it.

You have two choices:

Keep the internet as it is, and make sure it stays like it is

or

Allow Cable Companies to do whatever they want, limit your bandwidth, charge you more and restrict access.


Doing nothing will get you choice B in the long run.


Its pretty simple really.