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Roger Bacon

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Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« on: May 21, 2014, 02:41:53 PM »
This is a great idea, and was originally required I believe. Leftists are going nuts over the idea...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/20/fl-lawmakers-radical-cure-for-uninformed-voting-you-have-to-be-a-property-owner/
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2014, 04:07:40 PM »
Quote from: Roger Bacon on May 21, 2014, 02:41:53 PM
This is a great idea, and was originally required I believe. Leftists are going nuts over the idea...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/20/fl-lawmakers-radical-cure-for-uninformed-voting-you-have-to-be-a-property-owner/

Interesting, but who actually "owns" their property?
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2014, 05:02:37 PM »
Quote from: Kazan on May 21, 2014, 04:07:40 PM
Interesting, but who actually "owns" their property?

the banks.  the banks vote for you.  banks are always looking out for the little guy, so I think things are gonna turn out alright!
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2014, 05:06:36 PM »
Lets make everything like it was in thd good ole 1700's while we are at it.   

Its a dumb idea. 
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2014, 05:15:50 PM »
Banks are only technically lein holders.
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2014, 05:28:09 PM »
How is it a good idea?
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2014, 06:02:50 PM »
Quote from: OzmO on May 21, 2014, 05:28:09 PM
How is it a good idea?

it's not

it's beyond stupid but Ted Yoho is a birther so saying stupid shit is par for the course
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2014, 07:01:47 PM »
Quote from: 240 is Back on May 21, 2014, 05:02:37 PM
the banks.  the banks vote for you.  banks are always looking out for the little guy, so I think things are gonna turn out alright!

My house is paid for, but I still have to pay property tax so in reality I don't own the land my free and clear house sits on.
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2014, 07:26:56 PM »
Quote from: Kazan on May 21, 2014, 07:01:47 PM
My house is paid for, but I still have to pay property tax so in reality I don't own the land my free and clear house sits on.

in that case, we should allow our elected officials to vote for us.
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2014, 07:45:36 PM »
Quote from: Kazan on May 21, 2014, 07:01:47 PM
My house is paid for, but I still have to pay property tax so in reality I don't own the land my free and clear house sits on.

congratulations on paying off your house but of course you own the land

just because you have to pay property taxes doesn't mean you don't own your land

in reality, the fact that you have to pay property taxes is the proof that you own the land
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2014, 07:49:52 PM »
Quote from: Roger Bacon on May 21, 2014, 02:41:53 PM
This is a great idea, and was originally required I believe. Leftists are going nuts over the idea...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/20/fl-lawmakers-radical-cure-for-uninformed-voting-you-have-to-be-a-property-owner/

It's not a great idea. It's stupid and pointless. Representative YahooYoho's original assertion is that uninformed voting is dangerous - and he's right, it is. But owning property doesn't prevent uninformed voting anymore than more libraries prevent drunk driving. It's just designed to get him on the news.

Not to mention that his assertion is likely unconstitutional. The Supreme Court has, repeatedly, interpreted the 15th Amendment in an expansive way post-Reconstruction. I doubt a "show us the deed to your property" would fly.
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2014, 08:15:10 PM »
Except there`s lots of uninformed voters that own property so i`m not seeing how this will help. Sounds like class warfare to me.
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2014, 11:27:04 PM »
Quote from: OzmO on May 21, 2014, 05:28:09 PM
How is it a good idea?

People would have to earn the right to vote by having an actual stake in the decisions they're making.
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2014, 11:28:01 PM »
Quote from: 240 is Back on May 21, 2014, 07:26:56 PM
in that case, we should allow our elected officials to vote for us.

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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2014, 02:11:21 AM »
Quote from: Roger Bacon on May 21, 2014, 11:27:04 PM
People would have to earn the right to vote by having an actual stake in the decisions they're making.

People already do, and it's not helping. Allowing only property owners to vote is stupid and isn't helpful in solving the problem of an uninterested or uninformed electorate.
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2014, 06:28:16 AM »
Quote from: Roger Bacon on May 21, 2014, 11:27:04 PM
People would have to earn the right to vote by having an actual stake in the decisions they're making.

Take a young couple just married who are renting while saving for a down payment on a house.  They both have good jobs and pay taxes but don't own property.  Shouldn't they be allowed to vote on issues that effect them, such as, issues pertaining to the allocations of money from the taxes they pay?
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2014, 06:53:04 AM »
Quote from: Roger Bacon on May 21, 2014, 11:27:04 PM
People would have to earn the right to vote by having an actual stake in the decisions they're making.

Currently people don't have a stake in the issues they vote on because they don't own property?
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2014, 07:01:01 AM »
In theory good idea,

IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO LOSE , you should be motivated to protect it and thus vote in your best interest- which should be the best interest of your neighbor and fellow countryman if we are TRULY united, which benefits EVERYBODY in the long run

Illegals, bums, leeches, communists .... would not agree with this theory though
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2014, 08:13:21 AM »
Quote from: T-REX007 on May 22, 2014, 07:01:01 AM
In theory good idea,

IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO LOSE , you should be motivated to protect it and thus vote in your best interest- which should be the best interest of your neighbor and fellow countryman if we are TRULY united, which benefits EVERYBODY in the long run

Illegals, bums, leeches, communists .... would not agree with this theory though

Fair point, regarding property only.  If all issues voted on were about property or relating to property it makes sense.

But they are not.
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2014, 09:01:20 AM »
Ideas such as this, "only property owners", "only educated citizens", etc. "should be eligible to vote", have historically been a cover for "How do we keep wimmin and knee-grows from voting?"  And that's totally wrong.
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2014, 09:07:21 AM »
Naturally property owners would Institute rules making property ownerehip more difficult in order to maintain power.
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2014, 11:29:02 AM »
Terrible idea.  Every citizen should have the right vote, regardless of property ownership, employment, intelligence level, etc.  That kind of freedom is what makes this country great. 
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2014, 11:46:32 AM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on May 22, 2014, 11:29:02 AM
Terrible idea.  Every citizen should have the right vote, regardless of property ownership, employment, intelligence level, etc.  That kind of freedom is what makes this country great. 

Beach Bum ain't lying. 
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2014, 12:16:02 PM »
EVERYONE having the right to vote is DANGEROUS to a developed country like the USA, should EVERYONE have the right to own a gun ? ( I mean their should be SOME restrictions - felons, mentally ill etc... there has to be SOME limits and controls built in to protect everyone, illegals having a say in OUR  govt. and policies that affect an AMERICAN CITIZEN - that ain't right )
Morons that can vote to create ( intentionally or unintentionally )  a socialist-communist state would and will DESTROY America
No, EVERYBODY SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE, just like EVERYBODY shouldn't be a doctor, lawyer, teacher etc... they may want to, but that doesn't make it right
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Re: Only Property Owners Should Be Eligible To Vote
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2014, 12:20:49 PM »
Quote from: T-REX007 on May 22, 2014, 12:16:02 PM
EVERYONE having the right to vote is DANGEROUS to a developed country like the USA, should EVERYONE have the right to own a gun ? ( I mean their should be SOME restrictions - felons, mentally ill etc... there has to be SOME limits and controls built in to protect everyone, illegals having a say in OUR  govt. and policies that affect an AMERICAN CITIZEN - that ain't right )
Morons that can vote to create ( intentionally or unintentionally )  a socialist-communist state would and will DESTROY America
No, EVERYBODY SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE, just like EVERYBODY shouldn't be a doctor, lawyer, teacher etc... they may want to, but that doesn't make it right

Illegals don't have a right to vote in state or federal elections.

If we restrict who can vote, and who can be a doctor lawyer etc.  we will no longer be free.

A free country means bad and good, dumb or stupid can participate.

Who determines who is worthy?

An argument can be made that anyone supporting the idea of only property owners having the right to vote is so stupid that they themselves are too stupid to cast an intelligent vote.
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