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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2014, 08:48:21 AM »


typically what is supposed to be water is fat.
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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2014, 08:58:33 AM »
I don't know, my coach has never hesitated to tell me when I'm fat.
But this isn't about me personally.  this is about bodybuilding.  when the play-by-play says "looks good,  but seems to be holding water in his glutes," I can never see this "water"

Don't listen to Simple Simon babydoll he doesn't know shit.

This is example of holding water NOT fat.

If I wanted to 2 weeks all it takes, I would drop carbs to like 25g a day, eat 600-700 calories a day, drink liter of green tea, drop creatine, take some Alphamine + Up my Arimidex to 1mg a day (which will totally fuck up my sex drive but still) and I would come in chizzled with viens and shit popping everywhere on my arms etc looking like god. :-*

Hope this helps.

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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2014, 09:01:01 AM »
Don't listen to Simple Simon babydoll he doesn't know shit.

This is example of holding water NOT fat.

If I wanted to 2 weeks all it takes, I would drop carbs to like 25g a day, eat 600-700 calories a day, drink liter of green tea, drop creatine, take some Alphamine + Up my Arimidex to 1mg a day (which will totally fuck up my sex drive but still) and I would come in chizzled with viens and shit popping everywhere on my arms etc looking like god.

Mwah
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Junior, stop ruining every thread you post in, you dont have a clue about anything bodybuilding or conditioning related.

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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2014, 09:57:51 AM »
This is an example of "watery."



This is an example of being a fat fuck and not being watery

Competitive bodybuilding = push water into the muscles and keep it out of the skin

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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2014, 12:07:57 PM »
I did the Living Room Invitational Classic in 1983.  Was holding so much water.  Amateur mistake-  didn't know milk would fuck with my conditioning.  Plus my suit was so big the judges said it looked like a diaper.

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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2014, 12:14:43 PM »
^LOL

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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2014, 12:28:02 PM »
^LOL
pretty sure I still would've beat Goodrum

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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2014, 12:32:56 PM »
ten weeks
 Yah, I couldn've used some extra time,  but you know, the contract goes in and you  and you just have to pull it together and not cry in front of anyone.
I hear ya`,though not being a pro,I`ve never had a contract!   :)

More time,is all you needed.......much better to be contest ready at two weeks out or so,and just maintain condition until show day.

Best of luck in future outings.  ;)

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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2014, 12:34:42 PM »
You strike me as the type of female that prospers by acting stupid in front of men. Fools find it cute and refreshing. Chances are you don't get along with women have few or no female friends. I find your act to be stale and boring.

actually I get a whole different vibe from her. she's one of the guys. kind of chick who's not drama and is legit herself. it's a rarity.
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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #34 on: May 22, 2014, 12:35:32 PM »
Don't listen to Simple Simon babydoll he doesn't know shit.

This is example of holding water NOT fat.

If I wanted to 2 weeks all it takes, I would drop carbs to like 25g a day, eat 600-700 calories a day, drink liter of green tea, drop creatine, take some Alphamine + Up my Arimidex to 1mg a day (which will totally fuck up my sex drive but still) and I would come in chizzled with viens and shit popping everywhere on my arms etc looking like god. :-*

Hope this helps.

Mwah
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Sounds good on paper but you can`t stay out of Burger King for one day! 

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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2014, 12:35:53 PM »
You strike me as the type of female that prospers by acting stupid in front of men. Fools find it cute and refreshing. Chances are you don't get along with women have few or no female friends. I find your act to be stale and boring.
Carries a lot of weight that does.   ::)

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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2014, 12:35:59 PM »
 Am I doomed to be trolled by Halo gimmicks for the rest of my life?

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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2014, 12:37:40 PM »
Am I doomed to be trolled by Halo gimmicks for the rest of my life?
Halos gimmicks are all named after supplements, its likely YAGR

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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #38 on: May 22, 2014, 12:41:33 PM »
next time

... longer prep

... more var and clen (and possibly nolva and yohimbine) for the entire prep.


if you're paying a coach, and you were told (at the show) you were holding water/smooth/fat/ect... it's his fuck up. he should've been brutally honest with you. sugar-coating things and making you feel better isn't the coaches job. he should've seen what was happening weeks before the show and he should've made adjustments. doesn't matter how many other clients he has in the show or how many other clients he was prepping at the time for other shows, each clients deserves 100% of the coaches attention, whether he believed the client can win the show or not.

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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #39 on: May 22, 2014, 12:42:48 PM »
Sounds good on paper but you can`t stay out of Burger King for one day!  

I need to eat bro I am bulking.

You can't eat all those calories clean, you'll barf.



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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2014, 12:44:32 PM »
Vince has a gift of turning any thread into a comedy show.

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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2014, 12:47:20 PM »

I need to eat bro I am bulking.

You can't eat all those calories clean, you'll barf.



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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2014, 12:52:36 PM »
i can't believe people still 'bulk'

how has that idea not died a slow painful death by now?
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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #43 on: May 22, 2014, 12:54:55 PM »
I don't know, my coach has never hesitated to tell me when I'm fat.
But this isn't about me personally.  this is about bodybuilding.  when the play-by-play says "looks good,  but seems to be holding water in his glutes," I can never see this "water"

When the "fat" is completely gone, you will know, your skin will be so thin it will feel dry or satin-like to the touch. The "holding water" look which is typically seen in places like the glutes, lower back, and lower abs is really just a thin layer of fat.  In many instances this thin layer is hard to see under gym lighting, but becomes magnified under bright posing/stage lights. Same way "dark" skin in the gym can look washed out under stage lights.

You need to have the fat "gone" a few days out, then dehydrate enough to really thin the skin, then reload a little with carbs to keep fullness. Understand the nutritional connection between carbs and water.

Do not get sunburned or tan the day prior - this will thick the skin again. It's trail and error to some degree, but that is where the guru is supposed to come in.

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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #44 on: May 22, 2014, 12:57:15 PM »






You're using drugs to look like that?


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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #45 on: May 22, 2014, 12:58:16 PM »
i can't believe people still 'bulk'

how has that idea not died a slow painful death by now?

I don't think bulking is somehow a retarded notion, bulking seems to be unpopular these days like the latest trend but its something bodybuilders have done for many years successfully, just my personal opinion etc.

I can't personally every lean bulk, it doesn't work for me, I won't put on size like that and my body doesn't respond to eating clean foods.

Also its a good mental break and chance to relax a bit.

I don't believe in dieting or being in shape year round.

I like to enjoy life as well and not always be miserable.




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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #46 on: May 22, 2014, 12:58:18 PM »
i can't believe people still 'bulk'
Just an excuse to eat crap for those with zero dedication bro.

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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #47 on: May 22, 2014, 12:59:59 PM »
Am I doomed to be trolled by Halo gimmicks for the rest of my life?

This is the last of a swarm of YAGR gimmicks. The rest got shitcanned.

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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #48 on: May 22, 2014, 01:00:27 PM »
You're using drugs to look like that?



Post a pic lets see how you look, block your face if you want and I am 8 weeks into first ever cycle and put on 23lb so far.

Until you post a pic you have no authority to speak on the subject.



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Re: Fat, smooth, watery, dry, conditioned... WHAT DO THESE TERMS MEAN?
« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2014, 01:01:04 PM »
When the "fat" is completely gone, you will know, your skin will be so thin it will feel dry or satin-like to the touch. The "holding water" look which is typically seen in places like the glutes, lower back, and lower abs is really just a thin layer of fat.  In many instances this thin layer is hard to see under gym lighting, but becomes magnified under bright posing/stage lights. Same way "dark" skin in the gym can look washed out under stage lights.

You need to have the fat "gone" a few days out, then dehydrate enough to really thin the skin, then reload a little with carbs to keep fullness. Understand the nutritional connection between carbs and water.

Do not get sunburned or tan the day prior - this will thick the skin again. It's trail and error to some degree, but that is where the guru is supposed to come in.

... or shave. irritation = water retention.