Why don't Republicans campaign harder?

[Roger Bacon]

Why doesn't the entire party start working hard now? Fliers, Grass Roots, all that?

I never see Republican campaigning. 

[240 is Back]

In 2008, I signed up for both mccain and obama mailing lists.   Just once to each.  No clicking or follow up on my part.

Currently, I receive about 5 emails a day from the DNC, Obama, pelosi, etc.  They totally send notes with everything that happens in DC.

I heard from mccain during election run, a few mis-timed ones.  I get a SarahPAC email once every 8 months... and that's it.  Wasted opportunity by the RNC?  Or are they "not allowed" to use mccain's massive email list?

[LurkerNoMore]

They are tired and need to catch their breath.  It was hard work alienating the women, new generation, immigrants, moderates, independents, gays, hispanics, etc...  

Also the fact they don't really have much to choose from for the running says a lot.

[Archer77]

Republicans need to drop their opposition to issues like gay marriage. 

[240 is Back]

Republicans need to drop their opposition to issues like gay marriage. 

Repubs are losing their base because they're adopting SO MANY dem positions, just about 10 years later than the dems do it.  Really making the liberals look "progressive" like they're leading the way, and repubs are always late to the party.

Amnesty?   Suddenly Cruz is the only Repubs that DOESNT support amnesty. 

Minimum wage?   They're getting on board on that too.  Romney was a big one.

Give it 5 years, and repubs will be taking credit for obamacare.  

[polychronopolous]

Repubs are losing their base because they're adopting SO MANY dem positions, just about 10 years later than the dems do it.  Really making the liberals look "progressive" like they're leading the way, and repubs are always late to the party.

Amnesty?   Suddenly Cruz is the only Repubs that DOESNT support amnesty. 

Minimum wage?   They're getting on board on that too.  Romney was a big one.

Give it 5 years, and repubs will be taking credit for obamacare.  

Where do you come up with this shit at?

I feel bad sometimes the way you get called out here but sometimes you just make statements like this that blow my mind.

[Coach is Back!]

Why doesn't the entire party start working hard now? Fliers, Grass Roots, all that?

I never see Republican campaigning. 

Most republicans try to run dignified races and don't bring themselves down to their counterparts level of dirt. Every lib on this board fell for Obamas bullshit twice because he ran a campaign of cheating, lying and deceit. Actually, that's most liberal campaigns.

[240 is Back]

Where do you come up with this shit at?
I feel bad sometimes the way you get called out here but sometimes you just make statements like this that blow my mind.

No problem - I love to debate things - In this case, most of the GOP frontrunners (except Cruz) have all gotten on board the Amnesty train.  See it in their own words.

Jeb supports amnesty, calls it an act of love-
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Jeb-Bush-immigration-amnesty-Republican/2014/04/11/id/565010/

Rand is on board now too, taking major heat for it-
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/25/Rand-Paul-Amnesty-Legislation-Could-Pass-This-Year

Christie supports it, newsmax blasts him for it -
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/06/30/chris-christie-clarifies-on-amnesty-illegals-need-to-go-to-the-back-of-the-line/

Pawlenty supports amnesty AND min wage increase-
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/05/01/Tim-Pawlenty-GOP-Should-Support-Reasonable-Minimum-Wage-Increase-Amnesty

Romney - supports amnesty, on video lol -

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Rubio - YES I support Amnesty, and here's why -
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/10/ugh-marco-rubio-still-supports-senate-amnesty-plan-video/

[240 is Back]

polychronopolous -

Right after the GOP lost the 2012 election, there was a collective "agreement", led by party boss Reince Priebus, to "soften" the stance on Immigration reform (Amnesty).

Sean Hannity announced it on his show, and one by one, the repubs that were against it have "softened", or completely flipflopped on the issue.  They've adopted the democrat position.  They think it's the only way to secure the hispanic vote.  However, stats show the majority of legal hispanic voters DO NOT support amnesty.  It's been discussed a great deal on getbig.  It may backfire on the repubs.  PLUS, the law-abiding repub base, the folks that act as minutemen and guard the border and already vote republican now - they might not bother showing up to vote for a Rubio that promises to open up the border.

I'm glad you called me out for it - I don't think most repubs realize just how liberal their republican possibilities are, when it comes to amnesty.  It's why I really like Ted Cruz.  I just think he needs to hit the weights and up the cardio, maybe run an ECA stack and get lean.

[LurkerNoMore]

No problem - I love to debate things - In this case, most of the GOP frontrunners (except Cruz) have all gotten on board the Amnesty train.  See it in their own words.

Jeb supports amnesty, calls it an act of love-
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Jeb-Bush-immigration-amnesty-Republican/2014/04/11/id/565010/

Rand is on board now too, taking major heat for it-
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/25/Rand-Paul-Amnesty-Legislation-Could-Pass-This-Year

Christie supports it, newsmax blasts him for it -
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/06/30/chris-christie-clarifies-on-amnesty-illegals-need-to-go-to-the-back-of-the-line/

Pawlenty supports amnesty AND min wage increase-
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/05/01/Tim-Pawlenty-GOP-Should-Support-Reasonable-Minimum-Wage-Increase-Amnesty

Romney - supports amnesty, on video lol -

&feature=related

Rubio - YES I support Amnesty, and here's why -
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/10/ugh-marco-rubio-still-supports-senate-amnesty-plan-video/

hahahaha

[polychronopolous]

No problem - I love to debate things - In this case, most of the GOP frontrunners (except Cruz) have all gotten on board the Amnesty train.  See it in their own words.

Jeb supports amnesty, calls it an act of love-
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Jeb-Bush-immigration-amnesty-Republican/2014/04/11/id/565010/

Rand is on board now too, taking major heat for it-
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/25/Rand-Paul-Amnesty-Legislation-Could-Pass-This-Year

Christie supports it, newsmax blasts him for it -
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/06/30/chris-christie-clarifies-on-amnesty-illegals-need-to-go-to-the-back-of-the-line/

Pawlenty supports amnesty AND min wage increase-
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/05/01/Tim-Pawlenty-GOP-Should-Support-Reasonable-Minimum-Wage-Increase-Amnesty

Romney - supports amnesty, on video lol -

&feature=related

Rubio - YES I support Amnesty, and here's why -
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/10/ugh-marco-rubio-still-supports-senate-amnesty-plan-video/

Those are presidential hopefuls and front runners, of course they have to change their stance. That's how the game is played.

Hardly a representation of Republicans as a whole on the local and state level.

I could dare to say even other parts of the world Conservatives are picking up traction with a more conservative immigration policy. Look at England and other parts of Europe.

[RRKore]

In 2008, I signed up for both mccain and obama mailing lists.   Just once to each.  No clicking or follow up on my part.

Currently, I receive about 5 emails a day from the DNC, Obama, pelosi, etc.  They totally send notes with everything that happens in DC.

...

This is my experience, too. 

I usually vote democrat but all the emails are pretty fucking annoying, actually.

[240 is Back]

Those are presidential hopefuls and front runners, of course they have to change their stance. That's how the game is played.
Hardly a representation of Republicans as a whole on the local and state level.

Woah, I have to disagree with you again - If you want to talk about the STATE level - Repubs are falling in line fast, supporting amnesty:

HOUSE REPUBS - The majority SUPPORT amnesty -

This past October, Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) called for a Republican war on Ted Cruz over amnesty.   theblaze.com

John Boehnner on AMnesty "I want to get it done"
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/04/Boehner-on-Amnesty-I-Want-to-Get-It-Done

Reps Paul Ryan & Rep Guiterrez are leading the charge for Amnesty in a big way, and many House Members are on board.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/31/Rep-Luis-Gutierrez-GOP-s-Immigration-Principles-Don-t-Rule-Out-Eventual-Citizenship-for-Illegals

SENATE REPUBS -
GOP senators: We’ll pass immigration reform next year if we take back the Senate

The gang of 8 and most top repub senators have ALREADY SAID they will support amnesty - heck, they passed a proposal 68-32 - FOURTEEN REPUBS VOTED YES on the dem bill, and others say they'll do it if it's their version: http://hotair.com/archives/2014/05/15/gop-senators-well-pass-immigration-reform-next-year-if-we-take-back-the-senate/



Dude, we already know - the senate/house will pass it next time.  It's just whether obama gets credit (passing it in 2015 with a dem senate) or the repubs get credit (they want to pass it in 2017 if they dont wain senate).  That's IT.  Now, if you want to talk about LOCAL, as your third option - well, they are completely IRRELEVANT since it'll be a FEDERAL bill on amnesty which is up.  Our local dudes cannot stop a thing, nor can governors.

Only President Ted Cruz can veto it in 2017

[polychronopolous]

Woah, I have to disagree with you again - If you want to talk about the STATE level - Repubs are falling in line fast, supporting amnesty:

HOUSE REPUBS - The majority SUPPORT amnesty -

This past October, Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) called for a Republican war on Ted Cruz over amnesty.   theblaze.com

John Boehnner on AMnesty "I want to get it done"
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/04/Boehner-on-Amnesty-I-Want-to-Get-It-Done

Reps Paul Ryan & Rep Guiterrez are leading the charge for Amnesty in a big way, and many House Members are on board.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/31/Rep-Luis-Gutierrez-GOP-s-Immigration-Principles-Don-t-Rule-Out-Eventual-Citizenship-for-Illegals

SENATE REPUBS -
GOP senators: We’ll pass immigration reform next year if we take back the Senate

The gang of 8 and most top repub senators have ALREADY SAID they will support amnesty - heck, they passed a proposal 68-32 - FOURTEEN REPUBS VOTED YES on the dem bill, and others say they'll do it if it's their version: http://hotair.com/archives/2014/05/15/gop-senators-well-pass-immigration-reform-next-year-if-we-take-back-the-senate/



Dude, we already know - the senate/house will pass it next time.  It's just whether obama gets credit (passing it in 2015 with a dem senate) or the repubs get credit (they want to pass it in 2017 if they dont wain senate).  That's IT.  Now, if you want to talk about LOCAL, as your third option - well, they are completely IRRELEVANT since it'll be a FEDERAL bill on amnesty which is up.  Our local dudes cannot stop a thing, nor can governors.

Only President Ted Cruz can veto it in 2017

Again you are handpicking all the big time, big name Congressmen and Presidential hopefuls.

If ALL these Republicans were in favor of it it and the vast majority of Democrats were so in favor of this it already would have passed and you wouldn't be speculating until 2017.

You named about 15 or so Congressmen in total. That leaves 540 others who have a vote in this as well.

[240 is Back]

Again you are handpicking all the big time, big name Congressmen and Presidential hopefuls.

If ALL these Republicans were in favor of it it and the vast majority of Democrats were so in favor of this it already would have passed and you wouldn't be speculating until 2017.

You named about 15 or so Congressmen in total. That leaves 540 others who have a vote in this as well.

Did you ever read all of that?  68 senators already approved Amnesty.  Other say they're on board next time. 
Congressional leaders are calling for it, and their people fall in line.  Toss in the dems, and there's already a strong majority of both houses supporting this amnesty garbage. 

I have explained why it hasn't passed - it will shortly, it's about taking credit now.

[polychronopolous]

Did you ever read all of that?  68 senators already approved Amnesty.  Other say they're on board next time. 
Congressional leaders are calling for it, and their people fall in line.  Toss in the dems, and there's already a strong majority of both houses supporting this amnesty garbage. 

I have explained why it hasn't passed - it will shortly, it's about taking credit now.

If all these people have signed on and are so gung ho to do this thing you wouldn't be typing the year 2017.

[2Thick]

Most republicans try to run dignified races and don't bring themselves down to their counterparts level of dirt. Every lib on this board fell for Obamas bullshit twice because he ran a campaign of cheating, lying and deceit. Actually, that's most liberal campaigns.

That's one of their main shortcomings - they don't get down and dirty enough and sling mud like Dems do. If you say it, at least some people will believe it - no matter what. And when you say it over and over, more and more will believe it.

And when Repubs don't sling mud back and don't "dignify" these things said by Dems, many voters aren't aware of Dem's own shortcomings not being talked about by Repubs, and they assume those things said about Repubs by Dems are true.

Winning is all that matters. Repubs need to get onboard and do anything and everything they can get away with doing to win. The media helps the Dems hugely, and does everything they can to hurt the Repubs - so they're fighting with one hand tied behind their back right off the bat.

And the Repubs do a lousy job dumbing things down and appealing to the emotions of the low information masses who vote, act, speak, and think based upon how they "feel". Many are unwilling or unable to see the big picture, and vote for free stuff or the guy who says things that make them feel good.

[240 is Back]

Most republicans try to run dignified races and don't bring themselves down to their counterparts level of dirt.

Source?   

[RRKore]

Most republicans try to run dignified races and don't bring themselves down to their counterparts level of dirt. Every lib on this board fell for Obamas bullshit twice because he ran a campaign of cheating, lying and deceit. Actually, that's most liberal campaigns.

So the majority of republican campaigns are run in a dignified fashion but the majority of liberal campaigns use cheating, lying, and deceit?  Do I have that right?

Where do you come by such info, Coach?

I'm not going to ask how long this has been the case nor if it's only at a certain level (local, state, national) or two because you really seem to know what you're talking about.  I'm sure you must have an advanced degree or two.

[240 is Back]

Most republicans try to run dignified races and don't bring themselves down to their counterparts level of dirt.

laughable.  remember Bush robo-calls about mccain's illegitimate child in 2000?   In 2008, it was threats of arrest at polling booths i black neighborhoods and a phony Board of Elections flier was circulating the state "advising Republicans to vote on Nov. 4 and Democrats on Nov. 5.

and in 2012, rick santorum went WAY dirty on romney -
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/post/mitt-romney-accuses-rick-santorum-of-dirty-trick-robocall/2012/02/28/gIQA11IwfR_blog.html

I'd love to see any kind of analysis showing "repubs play fair but dems always cheat".