European Elections

[Roger Bacon]

Anti EU "Right Wing" Parties won across the board? The UK, France, Finland, Spain, Belgium, Italy?

 

[Roger Bacon]

Meant to post this on political... 

[MAXX]

Don't know what you're after but only anti EU in Sweden is the Swedishdemocrats.

The rest are following what the EU puppeteers tells them

[DroppingPlates]

They won in the election polls, they lost in the actual elections  
I'm not saying that the current Union is perfect, but the world is better off with thinking 'united'.
Thank you.

[Kim Jong Bob]

In sweden the swediav democrats  improved alot from the last time. 10% of the votes...we have a huge electioncoming up later this yeae and its a big chance that they will be the 3rd biggest party in sweden, it will be hard for the rest partys toignore and try to  ullie them like they habe did the last 4 years
...quite funny to see like in my town for example, the areas that they put all the foreigners in swedish democrats got the most votes in,. Almost most   votes of all parties.

 But alot of theirvltes are not done by swediah democrats by but people from other parties that are not happy with their parties immigrantpolicy

[DroppingPlates]

In sweden the swediav democrats  improved alot from the last time. 10% of the votes...we have a huge electioncoming up later this yeae and its a big chance that they will be the 3rd biggest party in sweden, it will be hard for the rest partys toignore and try to  ullie them like they habe did the last 4 years
...quite funny to see like in my town for example, the areas that they put all the foreigners in swedish democrats got the most votes in,. Almost most   votes of all parties.

 But alot of theirvltes are not done by swediah democrats by but people from other parties that are not happy with their parties immigrantpolicy

The thing is that most other parties don't want to work with them, and not just because of their different views...

[_bruce_]

People are still too docile and brainwashed to abandon the collectivist superstructure called "EU" completely.
Though rising prices and 3rd world immigration will take care of that.

[Roger Bacon]

People are still too docile and brainwashed to abandon the collectivist superstructure called "EU" completely.
Though rising prices and 3rd world immigration will take care of that.

Maybe the answer is giving up more of their sovereignty? The freedoms their ancestors died for. Surely the world elite will act in the average citizens best interest? 

[Kim Jong Bob]

The thing is that most other parties don't want to work with them, and not just because of their different views...

the biggest reason they dont seek their help to get their vote in questions is pr, they are aftraid that the media will start to call them rascist to ( not to that extreme byt you get my point).. they are more then happy to call them racist to but i would lovecto see fredrik sad puppy eyes reinfeldt  get this questiom :"do you think the finnish goverment is raacist becausecthey have their view of imigration is alike the swedish democrats view".  He would dodge that question faster then uncle junior paypal people to be friends with him. But besides the stricter imigratiom policy sd has i would not vote on them. Their other policys is not shared with me and people forget to read about them and just vote cause the stricter immigration they want...witch is a good tging cause the other parties need a wake up call, sweden cant continue like this so maybe in time the other parties starts to try to open their eyes. We dont even have enough of homes to shelter them all. Their are people who habe lived like shit in sweden for 8 years and doesnt have a own home and cant get jobs because they still are waiting for citizenships. That alone is proof that we are taking in to much

[Roger Bacon]

the biggest reason they dont seek their help to get their vote in questions is pr, they are aftraid that the media will start to call them rascist to ( not to that extreme byt you get my point).. they are more then happy to call them racist to but i would lovecto see fredrik sad puppy eyes reinfeldt  get this questiom :"do you think the finnish goverment is raacist becausecthey have their view of imigration is alike the swedish democrats view".  He would dodge that question faster then uncle junior paypal people to be friends with him. But besides the stricter imigratiom policy sd has i would not vote on them. Their other policys is not shared with me and people forget to read about them and just vote cause the stricter immigration they want...witch is a good tging cause the other parties need a wake up call, sweden cant continue like this so maybe in time the other parties starts to try to open their eyes. We dont even have enough of homes to shelter them all. Their are people who habe lived like shit in sweden for 8 years and doesnt have a own home and cant get jobs because they still are waiting for citizenships. That alone is proof that we are taking in to much

That's why I think this could be a big deal. You know there's a huge percentage of people that are merely afraid to speak up cause they don't realize everyone feels the same way, or don't believe anything can be accomplished. Hopefully this changes that? This might also help push the mainstream parties in a more sensible direction?

I can't for the life of me even begin to comprehend the Swedish immigration situation, unless it really is just some massive conspiracy. Or maybe Swedish thinking is just incompatible with my brain structure (lol). I can't see how it could possibly be justified? The government should act in the best interest of the citizens. I can't understand how such immigration from the third world could possibly be justified unless you guys are all just extremely hardcore humanitarians or something, willing to sacrifice yourselves for the world's less fortunate.

[Kim Jong Bob]

That's why I think this could be a big deal. You know there's a huge percentage of people that are merely afraid to speak up cause they don't realize everyone feels the same way, or don't believe anything can be accomplished. Hopefully this changes that? This might also help push the mainstream parties in a more sensible direction?

I can't for the life of me even begin to comprehend the Swedish immigration situation, unless it really is just some massive conspiracy. Or maybe Swedish thinking is just incompatible with my brain structure (lol). I can't see how it could possibly be justified? The government should act in the best interest of the citizens. I can't understand how such immigration from the third world could possibly be justified unless you guys are all just extremely hardcore humanitarians or something.

sweden has always been a big pussyland since the middle of the 1800. Look at when ww2 was sweden was "neutral" amd did everything the nazis asked them to, even forbi newspapers to write anything negative about hitler and if i domt remember wring even changes the law cause there was one  owner of a newspaper that refused to obey them first even the king tried to talk to him but he saw the nazis for what they where.

They (politiciam) are afraid to be called rascist by our leftish newspapers so they welcome all and let all the immigrants in (more or les) and call everyone else Who wants a stricter immigration for nazis and rascists and praises multiculturism

But they are fucking hypocrits,according to the law immigrants should be moved where there are most jobs and homes and that is in the richer parts where the rich politicians live but in the same time every city has the right to choose how many they want to take in and the richer areas take in the leasts. So its easy for them to pkay heros and praise the swediah immigrationpolicys cause they dont have to live with them, and you dont hear them caloing the leaders of their homes for rascists

[Kim Jong Bob]

Everyone is afraid to be called rascist in sweden, if you dont praise the swedish system for 100% you are a rascist. The swedish migrationminister billström said 6months ago that sweden cant take in all of the worlds migrants (not exactly those words) the media blasted him and just the day after he  was forced to appologise and say he sisnt lean it

[Roger Bacon]

Thanks for that, really good to hear your point of view as a Swede.

Like you mentioned, the part that really irritates me is that the people who vote for these policies never have to be exposed to the madness. It's the same in the United States.

It's easy to vote this way when you don't have to personally sufferer the consequences.

[Rami]

Sweden is in the process of taking themselves out of the equation of being a people with self determination and self preservation. It's nearing beyond recovery.

Is this a historic first, a people willingly giving up a future for their culture and people?

Should be interesting to follow.

[DroppingPlates]

the biggest reason they dont seek their help to get their vote in questions is pr, they are aftraid that the media will start to call them rascist to ( not to that extreme byt you get my point).. they are more then happy to call them racist to but i would lovecto see fredrik sad puppy eyes reinfeldt  get this questiom :"do you think the finnish goverment is raacist becausecthey have their view of imigration is alike the swedish democrats view".  He would dodge that question faster then uncle junior paypal people to be friends with him. But besides the stricter imigratiom policy sd has i would not vote on them. Their other policys is not shared with me and people forget to read about them and just vote cause the stricter immigration they want...witch is a good tging cause the other parties need a wake up call, sweden cant continue like this so maybe in time the other parties starts to try to open their eyes. We dont even have enough of homes to shelter them all. Their are people who habe lived like shit in sweden for 8 years and doesnt have a own home and cant get jobs because they still are waiting for citizenships. That alone is proof that we are taking in to much

They don't seek their help? The situation is different in every country but we've had a cabinet like that with CDA (Christian party), VVD (right wing/liberal) and PVV (freedom, well 'freedom' party by Geert Wilders). It became a debacle. Esp the CDA and to a lesser extent the VVD swore that they never want a coalition again with the PVV, simply because they blew things up by twisting their head right before a possible deal on important budget plans.
Most of these anti-Euro parties attract flamboyant narcissists like Wilders (Netherlands), Winters (Belgium) and Le Pen (France), so I can't blame the other parties for not working with them. Keep in mind that most other parties discuss immigration politics as well, since we're not living in the seventies anymore. The big difference however, they're not one-issue parties, which IMO is a good thing, since we need a good health care, education, environment and stable economy as well.

This is my last post in this thread (no coward, but it takes too much time)

[Roger Bacon]

Is this a historic first, a people willingly giving up a future for their culture and people?

Should be interesting to follow.

That's the part that just boggles my mind... It isn't like they're being overrun at gun point. It's like the biggest event of the 21st Century, and no one is reporting on it.  


Are all European countries basically in this position (if you take birth rates into consideration)? I'm under the impression that Finland and Denmark are standing their ground a little bit?

This is cool, has the Muslim percentage of every country and the estimated population by 2030: www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/jan/28/muslim-population-country-projection-2030

[DroppingPlates]

'our/their culture/people' is a concept of the past. When you can't accept this, then start a republic elsewhere.

[Roger Bacon]

'our/their culture/people' is a concept of the past. When you can't accept this, then start a republic elsewhere.

It's the people who have every right to live in the first world society their grandparents passed on to them that are now being reduced to living among a backwards, foreign, third world culture that I feel sorry for. If you don't like it, you really don't have to start a new country, you just have to have enough money to separate yourself (no uberman). That's what your politicians will continue to do. If you think they put up with 'multiculturalism' in their private lives you're in for a surprise.  

[Kim Jong Bob]

That's the part that just boggles my mind... It isn't like they're being overrun at gun point. It's like the biggest event of the 21st Century, and no one is reporting on it.  


Are all European countries basically in this position (if you take birth rates into consideration)? I'm under the impression that Finland and Denmark are standing their ground a little bit?

This is cool, has the Muslim percentage of every country and the estimated population by 2030: www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/jan/28/muslim-population-country-projection-2030

yes esp finland. Sweden said last year that ALL immigrants from syria are welcome here, finland promised earlier this year to double there intake of syrian refugess, might sound alot but it was like from 400 to 800 lol.

[Roger Bacon]

finland promised earlier this year to double there intake of syrian refugess, might sound alot but it was like from 400 to 800 lol.

True getbigger move  



Maybe I'm just old fashioned, I'm hung up on the idea that government should act in the citizens best interest first.

[DroppingPlates]

It's the people who have every right to live in the first world society their grandparents passed on to them that are now being reduced to living among a backwards, foreign, third world culture that I feel sorry for. If you don't like it, you really don't have to start a new country, you just have to have enough money to separate yourself (no uberman).

They have the right to do so, but again, there is no default culture or 'our people' anymore, and this is not just related to third world countries, this is a global thing. Genetically, more and more people are a biological and ideological mix of many cultures. There is no default American, European or Asian anymore. Many people think that they're truly authentic; well, they're not for ages.
This whole debate should start with the fundamental question: who are we (and who's 'we') ?

[Roger Bacon]

They have the right to do so, but again, there is no default culture or 'our people' anymore, and this is not just related to third world countries, this is a global thing. Genetically, more and more people are a biological and ideological mix of many cultures. There is no default American, European or Asian anymore. Many people think that they're truly authentic; well, they're not for ages.
This whole debate should start with the fundamental question: who are we (and who's 'we') ?

That's a beautiful globalist elite fantasy, that really couldn't be further from the truth though. You're wrong on all points. Most countries around the world clearly still maintain their "default" culture. Waltz into some non European countries and tell them that, you're in for a surprise. All European countries still overwhelmingly have unique native cultural identities, these cultures created and maintain the societies and political environments that are so desirable to people around the world. When you give up that successful culture in favor of misguided liberal philosophy the country you knew will cease to exist, it will become another society to flee.

I don't understand why you seem to desire a scenario where your culture is constrained, and has to adapt or get out of the way?

This really doesn't affect me, I'll have the ability to enjoy the Anglo culture I was born into for the rest of my life. When I explore new cultures it's voluntarily.

[Papper]

It's funny to read what the mantra is in social media prior to the election in Sweden..

"Everybody should vote! It's not your right.. It's your duty! BUT do not vote for The Sweden democrats then you're scum"

Lol!

[_bruce_]

Multiculturalism could function with people on equal footing ideology wise - this was also the idea behind it for the masses(EU, USA, etc.). In the French Foreign Legion it works to some extent, because everybody knows the marching order and has a common goal - go at it and get the job done. Same with higher echelon politicians who have good access to goods, education and Ukrainian hookers - voila common denominator.

Back in the Joe Blow world...
Decades later, after propaganda and re education, the common folks realize that it's a one way street where freedoms, dominance, welfare and general standard of living are evaporating all the while becoming a dwindling majority pitted against an aggressive, collectivist "minority" with backing by international NGOs.

Sweden will soon be "Kabo Ikea Agana" which could be loosely translated to "Little Africa". Guess Mensa Bob's tanks will roll over some enrichment parade only to get attacked by cis gendered Swedes with nuclear dildos resulting in him retreating to North Korea and living a live of yellow fever, beauty and harmony.

Sweden, I'm sorry but Option D is necessary in your case

[Kim Jong Bob]

It's funny to read what the mantra is in social media prior to the election in Sweden..

"Everybody should vote! It's not your right.. It's your duty! BUT do not vote for The Sweden democrats then you're scum"

Lol!

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