Barbell Row standing on Bench

[Neptune100]

Just curious...anyone stupid bold enough to do this like Arnold/Franco? Ha most gyms would throw you out I imagine.  The concentration must be very intense, which may add to the mind/muscle contraction. You also can't go too heavy on this and screw up your back.  Just wanted to hear experiences with it.

[The True Adonis]

Just curious...anyone stupid bold enough to do this like Arnold/Franco? Ha most gyms would throw you out I imagine.  The concentration must be very intense, which may add to the mind/muscle contraction. You also can't go too heavy on this and screw up your back.  Just wanted to hear experiences with it.

Why not just do it without the bench?

[Waller]

I always understood Arnold did this because he lowered the weight past the level of his feet. But I have seen people standing on benches to do it and the weights don't even reach their feet. Douche bags

[Coach is Back!]

I always understood Arnold did this because he lowered the weight past the level of his feet. But I have seen people standing on benches to do it and the weights don't even reach their feet. Douche bags

Exactly, it's to drop past bench. We used to use a fairy good amount weight. And no, never seen anyone screw up their backs. Not that it can't happen, it's just unlikely. 

[Neptune100]

Exactly, it's to drop past bench. We used to use a fairy good amount weight. And no, never seen anyone screw up their backs. Not that it can't happen, it's just unlikely. 

Coach, you like this method?  You mentioned you used to do it, is there a particular reason you stopped?

[HonestBob]

I think it is retarded.  All due respect to Coach because I like and respect his opinion.

1) there's better rowing movements to get a stretch
2) stand on a bench and focus on balance to get a small stretch or be more stable, lift more weight (due to better neural drive) and use 10kg plates rather than the big wheels and get the best of both worlds if you really think stretching out the humerus is the way to go on a bent over row.

[kreator]

arnold had shitty form on most of his back exercises, how he didn't snap anything is beyond me

[Griffith]

I think it's an exercise that's not worth the hassle and risk when you can achieve the same just using regular rows.

[_aj_]

I used to do it, because Arnold. Haven't in 15 years.

[wes]

I used to do it, because Arnold. Haven't in 15 years.

X 2 ......found no difference in results/lack of results so stopped.

[Donny]

Total waste of time. People used to do stiff legged Deadlifts like this too... talk about dangerous for your lower back.

[_aj_]

Total waste of time. People used to do stiff legged Deadlifts like this too... talk about dangerous for your lower back.

I don't know that it is any more dangerous for your lower back, it's just inherently unstable. If you are doing SLDL's right, with a proper hip-hinge, and not stupid with the weight, it should be fine up there.

[wes]

I don't know that it is any more dangerous for your lower back, it's just inherently unstable. If you are doing SLDL's right, with a proper hip-hinge, and not stupid with the weight, it should be fine up there.

I still do stiff-leggeds on a platform or bench,and I keep my knees locked throughout the movement.

45 pound plates = no stretch and even if smaller plates are used they hit the floor before you get a decent stretch.

These days I just go light for a stretch since my back is completely fucked at times.

[wes]

I just realized something,we`re talking about training/bodybuilding related stuff.

Who woulda` thunk it ? 

[_aj_]

I just realized something,we`re talking about training/bodybuilding related stuff.

Who woulda` thunk it ? 

Must be a full moon.

[wes]

Must be a full moon.

No shit,kinda` scary isn`t it? 

[Simple Simon]

Exactly, it's to drop past bench. We used to use a fairy good amount weight. And no, never seen anyone screw up their backs. Not that it can't happen, it's just unlikely. 

Are you just setting out to deliberately fuck up peoples backs?
That ridiculous video last week of people sitting down and rolling their spines about whilst squatting , now this bullshit.
Bending over at the waist alone puts a hell of a lot of strain on the low back due to just the weight of your head, now to add an extreme extension and fuck around lifting weights whilst in full extension is idiotic in the extreme.

I seriously wonder if you are just trolling here.

[Donny]

I don't know that it is any more dangerous for your lower back, it's just inherently unstable. If you are doing SLDL's right, with a proper hip-hinge, and not stupid with the weight, it should be fine up there.

yes good post.. i think People do use too much weight on These. I always used Dumbbells. These Days i stick to Bent legged Deadlifts.

[KSA]

 

[ProudVirgin69]

It works pretty well as a rack if you don't have a power cage handy....I figured that was the reason they'd do it

[Neptune100]

I think part of the concept of doing rows on a bench is to be in total control of the movement and to be really alert focused on the task at hand.  More so quality repetitions over quantity/weight. Everybody sleep walks through sets and movements but you have to been in the zone doing rows on a bench or you're gonna be hurting. I imagine even with lesser weight it is still takes alot of energy to do it. I haven't done it this way yet, lord knows there are a million different views on barbell rowing technique to begin with and I've been doing barbell rows for 10 years and I still tweak my technique.

[_aj_]

It works pretty well as a rack if you don't have a power cage handy....I figured that was the reason they'd do it

Right, like there's anybody any more that doesn't have access to a cage...

 

[Donny]

check out this guy... I won´t say These balls don´t have uses, such as stabilizing a knee after surgery but Fuck sake not with Barbell Rows.

[Mr Anabolic]

Including DB laterals, the BB row is the exercise that is most incorrectly performed.  People use too much weight, their form is shit and they never develop any thickness at all.  The upper body should never move downward to meet the weight as you get tired... I see that a lot too.

I use the 25lb plates standing on the floor.  No need to get a big stretch at the bottom of the movement... all that does it put your low back at risk. 

[Coach is Back!]

Coach, you like this method?  You mentioned you used to do it, is there a particular reason you stopped?

Better options.