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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #275 on: June 09, 2014, 01:00:46 PM »
Pretty naive to think that these five terrorists will not rejoin the fight.  And saying they pose no threat to Americans because they have been locked up for so long is wrong.  They don't need to know the "inner workings" of the Taliban to be able to step right back into leadership roles.  Part of the reason they are leaders is they possess leadership qualities.  Those didn't disappear because we had them locked up.  Nor did they become less extreme.  If anything, their imprisonment has hardened them. 

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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #276 on: June 09, 2014, 01:02:06 PM »
Another psycho, or whatever name Obama and his minions are calling these folks. 

Bergdahl platoon medic says captured soldier deserted his post, 'not a hero'
Published June 08, 2014
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A member of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl’s platoon in Afghanistan said Sunday the former Taliban prisoner deserted his post before being captured and fired back against Obama administration arguments that only Bergdahl knows exactly what happened.

“After Bowe Bergdahl purposely and willfully walked away, every single mission was titled toward finding him,” platoon medic Joshua Cornelison told “Fox News Sunday.” “We were there. This isn’t some second- or third-hand account.”

Cornelison’s comments come several days after a State Department spokeswoman told Fox News that Bergdahl is “probably the person who knows best what happened on that night” and dismissed published accounts from platoon mates about the events surrounding Bergdahl’s June 5, 2009, disappearance and capture.

“The American people need to be educated that Bowe Bergdahl is not a hero.”
- Joshua Cornelison
Cornelison also spoke on the same day Fox News confirmed with Defense Department officials specifics about Bergdahl’s recovery at a U.S. military base in Landstuhl, Germany, including that he attempted to escape at least once -- possibly twice -- and that he was put in a metal cage or small room for periods of time that included solitary confinement.

The escape and confinement was reported earlier this week by Fox News, based on secret documents prepared for the Defense Department by a private firm.

Bergdahl also is being treated for some nutritional deficits that would be considered normal after being in captivity for five years and that he still has not spoken to his parents.

Bergdahl was returned by his Taliban captors June 3 in eastern Afghanistan in exchange for the release of five Taliban detainees at the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

“The American people need to be educated that Bowe Bergdahl is not a hero,” Cornelison said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/08/bergdahl-platoon-medic-says-captured-solider-deserted-his-post-not-hero/

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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #277 on: June 09, 2014, 01:21:30 PM »
seriously, why not just execute them back in 2003 or 2004?

I mean, at the end of WWII, we could have looked at the Japanese fighters who were also seriously hardcore batshit crazy (kamikaze pilots and all that) and said we couldn't release them, cause anyone that crazy is totally gonna keep doing us harm.

I think each prez just wants to pass it to the next prez, so they're not the ones that released the dude that caused the next 911.

Or, I think Bush should have just sunk the boatload of them on the way to GITMO and called it a day lol.   

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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #278 on: June 09, 2014, 01:31:09 PM »
Or why not have public decapitations of anyone who talks stink about Americans?  Kill the firstborn of every Muslim?

(This is sarcasm.) 

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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #279 on: June 09, 2014, 02:50:14 PM »

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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #281 on: June 10, 2014, 06:42:18 AM »
Pretty naive to think that these five terrorists will not rejoin the fight.  And saying they pose no threat to Americans because they have been locked up for so long is wrong.  They don't need to know the "inner workings" of the Taliban to be able to step right back into leadership roles.  Part of the reason they are leaders is they possess leadership qualities.  Those didn't disappear because we had them locked up.  Nor did they become less extreme.  If anything, their imprisonment has hardened them. 
These 5 Terrorists will be if anything stronger now in their beliefs. This all reminds me of how our Government sold us out on the Good Friday Agreement. letting known IRA shit scum on the streets. So this has happend to us in the UK. However this Terrorist threat is GLOBAL. i hope the US agencies take These guys out  >:(


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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #283 on: June 10, 2014, 07:28:49 AM »
White House: The Taliban Five Aren't As Bad As You Think
The Cable - Foreign Policy ^  | JUNE 10, 2014 | JOHN HUDSON

Posted on ‎6‎/‎10‎/‎2014‎ ‎10‎:‎23‎:‎42‎ ‎AM by RobinMasters

Facing growing skepticism on Capitol Hill about its decision to swap five Taliban prisoners for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, the White House told lawmakers at a classified briefing late Monday night that some of the freed militants were political figures, not hardened soldiers, according to lawmakers who attended the session.

In the past several days, the administration has rolled out a number of reasons to justify swapping Bergdahl, a potential deserter, for the five Taliban officials. White House officials said they had concerns about Berdgahl's health, felt an obligation to never leave a soldier on the battlefield, and feared the militants were preparing to kill the missing soldier. But House lawmakers exiting a late Monday briefing said the administration was now shifting to a new defense that emphasized the lack of threat posed by the individuals that were released as part of the deal.

They discussed "the dangerousness of the individuals," or lack thereof, said Rep. Mike Turner (R-Ohio) in an interview, referring to Abdul Haq Wasiq, Mullah Norullah Noori, Mullah Mohammad Fazi, Mullah Khairullah Khairkhwa and Mohammad Nabi Omari, otherwise known as the "Taliban Five." While Turner said he didn't trust the way the administration characterized their rap sheets, other Democratic lawmakers were convinced that claims about the Taliban Five being "hardcore" terrorists were exaggerated.

"They don't seem to have been combatants at all," said Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), who attended Monday's briefing. "The guys we traded, you hear all kinds of things about ‘they killed Americans.' Three of them were governors of provinces under the Taliban government...They were governors."


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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #284 on: June 10, 2014, 07:51:02 AM »
Governors...fuck me so they have Status now? Only Thing correct is we Show no mercy to These Taliban scum and Muslim Radicals. like i wrote before it´s like the IRA shit scum that now are respectable politicians. Terrorist murderers. fucking sell out. being serious now, if i was asked to serve again i would.

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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #285 on: June 10, 2014, 08:11:16 AM »
It's certainly possible any or all of these 5 guys could go back and "joint the fight"

A perfect example is Said Ali al-Shihri who was released from Gitmo by the Bush Administration in 2007 and became the deputy leader of Al Qaeda’s Yemeni branch and who was eventually killed in a drone strike. 

The reality is that he wasn't so much a danger to anyone in the US as he was to his fellow countrymen.  Same goes for most of these nutbags and just like domestic prisoners some will return to their criminal ways and others will not

If we're concerned about our own personal safety in this country there are more important things to worry about than these guys

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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #286 on: June 10, 2014, 08:13:21 AM »
It's certainly possible any or all of these 5 guys could go back and "joint the fight"

A perfect example is Said Ali al-Shihri who was released from Gitmo by the Bush Administration in 2007 and became the deputy leader of Al Qaeda’s Yemeni branch and who was eventually killed in a drone strike. 

The reality is that he wasn't so much a danger to anyone in the US as he was to his fellow countrymen.  Same goes for most of these nutbags and just like domestic prisoners some will return to their criminal ways and others will not

If we're concerned about our own personal safety in this country there are more important things to worry about than these guys

how about our soldiers in the field who lost limbs and lives capturing these Islamic filth and will do so in the future getting shot at by these savages? 

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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #287 on: June 10, 2014, 08:15:32 AM »
how about our soldiers in the field who lost limbs and lives capturing these Islamic filth and will do so in the future getting shot at by these savages? 

you mean exactly what they volunteered to do ?


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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #288 on: June 10, 2014, 08:17:39 AM »
you mean exactly what they volunteered to do ?



Unbelievable - well not really - you are a lib so that probably in your twisted head makes sense

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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #289 on: June 10, 2014, 08:20:26 AM »
Unbelievable - well not really - you are a lib so that probably in your twisted head makes sense

yes, they all know what they are getting into when they volunteered

like I said, this guy was more of a danger to his fellow countrymen than he was to either US citizens or US soldiers (unless you think we have troops actively fighting on the ground in Yemen)

This guy was killed by a US drone strike

Remember how much you hate drone strikes and feel sorry for the terrorist that we kill with drone strikes.  If you don't remember I'm sure I can find the threads and bump them for you to jog your memory

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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #290 on: June 10, 2014, 08:23:02 AM »
Unbelievable - well not really - you are a lib so that probably in your twisted head makes sense
Got to agree with Soul Crusher on this what you are saying straw Man is just ridiculous. the Soldiers who go out their are Heros and don´t Need a kunt like you writing sympathetic love Posts for Islamic terrorists. What are you for a man ?

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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #291 on: June 10, 2014, 08:29:02 AM »
Got to agree with Soul Crusher on this what you are saying straw Man is just ridiculous. the Soldiers who go out their are Heros and don´t Need a kunt like you writing sympathetic love Posts for Islamic terrorists. What are you for a man ?

you're a moron if you think I'm sympathizing with Islamic terrorists

If you're looking for someone who sympathizes with terrorists then have a conversation with 333 who expressed sympathy and outrage that he US killed Anwar al-Awlaki with a drone.

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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #292 on: June 10, 2014, 08:34:44 AM »
you're a moron if you think I'm sympathizing with Islamic terrorists

If you're looking for someone who sympathizes with terrorists then have a conversation with 333 who expressed sympathy and outrage that he US killed Anwar al-Awlaki with a drone.

Oh fng please - I said that as a citizen they should have had a trial - even if in abstentia to make it legit.  Same w the 16 yo Obama killed. 

I hate these Islamic filth - they are slime and sludge

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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #293 on: June 10, 2014, 08:39:11 AM »
you're a moron if you think I'm sympathizing with Islamic terrorists

If you're looking for someone who sympathizes with terrorists then have a conversation with 333 who expressed sympathy and outrage that he US killed Anwar al-Awlaki with a drone.
Son Don´t call me a Moron. Show respect.

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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #294 on: June 10, 2014, 08:42:41 AM »
Oh fng please - I said that as a citizen they should have had a trial - even if in abstentia to make it legit.  Same w the 16 yo Obama killed. 

I hate these Islamic filth - they are slime and sludge

you expect us to believe that you want a trial in absentia for someone we know is was involved with terrorist activities when at the same time you wish for violent death on your fellow citizens with no trial at all?

try to have some consistency if you expect anyone to believe your bullshit

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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #295 on: June 10, 2014, 08:44:11 AM »
what else can I call you except a moron if you believe my post was sympathizing with terrorists



A little sensitive today?   :'(  :'(

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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #296 on: June 10, 2014, 08:46:31 AM »
Son Don´t call me a Moron. Show respect.

I can't tell if your prior post was sarcasm or not


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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #297 on: June 10, 2014, 08:48:34 AM »
I can't tell if your prior post was sarcasm or not




LOL - you are not too bright - figure it the fuck out yourself moron. 

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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #298 on: June 10, 2014, 08:49:22 AM »
I can't tell if your prior post was sarcasm or not


then Show respect Son. Don´t write i´m a moron.

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Re: Trading Terrorists for One of Our Own
« Reply #299 on: June 10, 2014, 08:52:14 AM »
then Show respect Son. Don´t write i´m a moron.

ok, so not sarcasm

I'll repeat it just so there is no confusion

If you think my post is sympathetic of muslims or terrorists then not only are you not familiar with my prior posts but you are also a world class moron