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Re: This is your President - enjoy.
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2014, 01:18:53 PM »
I'll ask again: does the failure of W. to capture bin Laden constitute a nexus to terrorism? Conversely, does Obama's success in capturing bin Laden disprove any theories about a possible nexus?

The bottom line is simpl: Joe can't have his cake and eat it too.

Of course not - but then again - W was very close to the Saudis like Obama is and many claim that is why we never went after the sheiks who helped finance Al Queada, etc.   

Obama did not get OBL and more than W was responsible for 9/11.   

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« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2014, 01:24:04 PM »
They always have.  You think Iran just let those hostages go years ago?  Every President in modern times has done it to some degree or another.

When?  When Reagan won the first time?  Please elaborate!

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« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2014, 01:30:22 PM »
Of course not - but then again - W was very close to the Saudis like Obama is and many claim that is why we never went after the sheiks who helped finance Al Queada, etc.   

Obama did not get OBL and more than W was responsible for 9/11.   

I used "get" in the sense that he was President when bin Laden was killed. But whether we like it or not, Obama was the President who authorized the operation. He deserves credit for that. This doesn't make him a better President or whitewash the other fuckups of his Administration.

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« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2014, 01:39:45 PM »
I used "get" in the sense that he was President when bin Laden was killed. But whether we like it or not, Obama was the President who authorized the operation. He deserves credit for that. This doesn't make him a better President or whitewash the other fuckups of his Administration.

Speaking of fuckups - Susan Rice says this guy served "honorably"  -  WTF!

http://www.caintv.com/susan-rice-we-didnt-negotiate



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« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2014, 01:57:05 PM »
Oh boy... another sock puppet.

Ayeres bombed the Pentagon and on 9/11/2001 was quoted in the NYT as saying he only wishes his bombs did more damage.  Remember? 

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« Reply #32 on: June 03, 2014, 07:09:54 PM »
Ayeres bombed the Pentagon and on 9/11/2001 was quoted in the NYT as saying he only wishes his bombs did more damage.  Remember?  

*shakes head*

Let's get this straight: I'm not defending Bill Ayers, nor am I suggesting he didn't bomb the Pentagon. It's an established fact that he did, that he became a fugitive and, unfortunately, avoided facing justice because of the illegal tactics employed by Federal law-enforcement officials. I don't respect Bill Ayers or give his opinion on any topic much weight.

With all that said, what does that have to do with Barack Obama? Even if Obama's political career 'started' in Ayers' living room what does that matter? Would it make a difference if he decided to enter politics in John Wayne's kitchen? Or Ronald Reagan's favorite bistro? Or his fucking toilet?

You don't say it because it proves anything about Obama, you say it because it allows you to get out there, in a roundabout way, something you cannot possibly support with facts and evidence. I mean, shit, you might as well just add "Wink Wink, Nudge Nudge" after your statement.

By all means, point out specific things that Obama himself said or did that betray his sympathy for and/or allegiance to Ayers, the Weather Underground, Alinksy, Lenin, Marx and whathaveyou. We can and should judge the man on his own words and his own action. But I just don't see the point in judging Obama based on the words and actions of others.

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« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2014, 07:19:44 PM »
Obama = Absolute ties to terrorism
wow.

with all due respect Joe, believing things like this is a clear sign that there is something very wrong with your approach to politics. This is just fucking nuts. You can't be fucking serious.
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« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2014, 07:34:29 PM »
wow.

with all due respect Joe, believing things like this is a clear sign that there is something very wrong with your approach to politics. This is just fucking nuts. You can't be fucking serious.

He's an idiot.  You tend to expect things like that from those kinds. 

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« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2014, 08:14:13 AM »
They always have.  You think Iran just let those hostages go years ago?  Every President in modern times has done it to some degree or another.

Lurker, what are you talking about here.  Will you please elaborate?

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« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2014, 08:49:54 AM »
Lurker, what are you talking about here.  Will you please elaborate?

Reagan traded arms to Iran for the hostages.

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« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2014, 08:52:03 AM »
Reagan traded arms to Iran for the hostages.

This guy was not a hostage - he was a deserter who renounced his citizenship.   FAIL on your part - keep sticking w o-fag talking points. 

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« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2014, 09:18:24 AM »
Reagan traded arms to Iran for the hostages.

Reagan?  Didn't the negotiations take place on Carter's watch?  Weren't the hostages released the day Carter's term ended?

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« Reply #39 on: June 04, 2014, 09:19:38 AM »
This guy was not a hostage - he was a deserter who renounced his citizenship.   FAIL on your part - keep sticking w o-fag talking points. 

I see it as USA negotiating with terrorists for extradition of a deserter, not a rescue of a hostage.

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« Reply #40 on: June 04, 2014, 09:21:04 AM »
I see it as USA negotiating with terrorists for extradition of a deserter, not a rescue of a hostage.


No no no no - Obama and the WH said this guy was in captivity and served honorably remember? 

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« Reply #41 on: June 04, 2014, 09:51:05 AM »
This guy was not a hostage - he was a deserter who renounced his citizenship.   FAIL on your part - keep sticking w o-fag talking points. 

I did not say he was or was not a hostage.

I gave an example of another president negotiating with terrorists.   Pretty evident if you had more than two brain cells that worked and that were not devoted to Obama's BBC and Jungle Fever.

Again, how much physical pain is associated with having a life that sucks so badly?  Where does the majority of this pain come from?  Self loathing?  Being a queer?  A midget?  Living in the ghetto?   

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« Reply #42 on: June 04, 2014, 11:39:58 AM »
Why is the USA negotiating with terrorizers?

Terrorizers? lol

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« Reply #43 on: June 04, 2014, 11:58:50 AM »
Reagan traded arms to Iran for the hostages.

More than 500 detainees were released or transferred from Gitmo during the Bush Administration

I've read that these guys we traded would have likely be released or transferred sometime soon anyway so at least we got something for them rather than nothing

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« Reply #44 on: June 04, 2014, 11:59:00 AM »
Why is the USA negotiating with terrorizers?

Good question.  

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« Reply #45 on: June 04, 2014, 12:31:24 PM »
Good question.  

Always has, you guys are buddy buddy with people until there use is up.

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« Reply #46 on: June 04, 2014, 12:34:04 PM »
Always has, you guys are buddy buddy with people until there use is up.

I don't recall us ever trading terrorists for hostages. 

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« Reply #47 on: June 04, 2014, 12:39:51 PM »
I don't recall us ever trading terrorists for hostages. 

how about POWs for POWs?

ever heard of that?

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« Reply #48 on: June 04, 2014, 02:02:58 PM »
how about POWs for POWs?

ever heard of that?

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« Reply #49 on: June 04, 2014, 03:08:49 PM »
:D

You should be embarrassed to post stuff like this. 

1.  These were not five "Afganis."  They were terrorists. 

2.  The military operation is not over, and that is not the reason those five terrorists were released, so citing that as a reason to release terrorists from custody is not only wrong, but stupid.

3.  There is no such thing as a "Court Marshall."  And the allegations about this kid leaving his post were actually investigated.  We did not trade terrorists for this kid so he could be investigated and subject to a court martial.   

4.  The terrorists are not POWs.  They are detainees.  They don't belong to any recognized armed forces.  I'm unaware of any president in history trading terrorists for anything.