Ok, here is another question. Can a gym really be hardcore if it has female members? I started working out at a commercial gym in 1979. I can count on one hand the number of girls I have ever seen work out and put effort into it. Mainly they are eye candy. They eat up valuable gym space and get in the way. 99.9% of the woman I have seen work out over the years belong at Curves and not a hardcore gym.