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Paleolithic style diet
« on: June 14, 2014, 02:37:42 AM »
Why do you not think it's important for humans to eat the way they evolved to eat over 200,000 years?

You wouldn't try to feed a lion the same way you feed a Giraffe or Gorilla, yet you think you can eat any damn thing you want... WTF?

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Re: Dieting Question for you E=MC2 Bitches
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2014, 02:40:10 AM »
This is a real hoot by the way...  ::)



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Re: Dieting Question for you E=MC2 Bitches
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2014, 03:04:06 AM »
Why do you not think it's important for humans to eat the way they evolved to eat over 200,000 years?

You wouldn't try to feed a lion the same way you feed a Giraffe or Gorilla, yet you think you can eat any damn thing you want... WTF?

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People feed their 'living room lions' grain-based kibble. Most brand add sugar for taste, but cats can't really taste sweet. And then wonder why mr. Fluffy Paws develops diabetes and kidney problems...  ::)

One of our cats was really addicted to grain-based kibble and would not switch to prey animals or BARF. He's now on special kibble with 80% meat/fish and no grains or carbs, with some canned meat (96% meat with organs) and is doing great. The vet thought he would have developed diabetes or kidney problems by now, as he's over 14, but he's very healthy.

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Re: Dieting Question for you E=MC2 Bitches
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2014, 03:13:04 AM »
People feed their 'living room lions' grain-based kibble. Most brand add sugar for taste, but cats can't really taste sweet. And then wonder why mr. Fluffy Paws develops diabetes and kidney problems...  ::)

One of our cats was really addicted to grain-based kibble and would not switch to prey animals or BARF. He's now on special kibble with 80% meat/fish and no grains or carbs, with some canned meat (96% meat with organs) and is doing great. The vet thought he would have developed diabetes or kidney problems by now, as he's over 14, but he's very healthy.

Good post! So true, I've noticed the difference with my own doggy.  :o

It's funny how our idiotic food pyramid mixed fats and sugars, and how many carbohydrates are recommended. No wonder Americans are fat as fuck.

I feel sorry for people with heart problems who had idiot doctors put them on low fat (high sugar/carb) diets which only made their problems worse.

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Re: Paleolithic style diet
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2014, 03:34:22 AM »
Why do you not think it's important for humans to eat the way they evolved to eat over 200,000 years?

You wouldn't try to feed a lion the same way you feed a Giraffe or Gorilla, yet you think you can eat any damn thing you want... WTF?

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Well it is important that a humans modern diet should reflect what they ate during the earlier stages of their evolution (animal flesh, vegetation etc).

However ultimately everything we eat is broken down to the molecular level - glucose, fatty acids and amino acids. Our bodies can not recognise the source of the nutrients we take in - a glucose molecule obtained through the digestion of broccoli is chemically identical to a glucose molecule in a can of pepsi. Obviously the body benefits greatly from the micronutrients (vitamins, minerals etc) from "natural" foods that are not found in modern processed food items.
The intake of energy is what our physiology causes us to seek out above all else - modern junk foods are therefore craved because of their high caloric density.

Cats and all felids are somewhat different in that they are obligate carnivores. This means that unlike dogs, bears, humans etc. they lack the ability to digest plant matter and can not synthesise certain essential amino acids from food sources that are not whole sources of protein (i.e. animal flesh). In other words the best diet for your cat is 100% meat based. They supplement this themselves by ingesting certain plant matter like grass on occasion, simply to help with digestion or as an emetic. (In the wild, the skin and fur of prey would serve this purpose).

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Re: Dieting Question for you E=MC2 Bitches
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2014, 03:43:19 AM »
Good post! So true, I've noticed the difference with my own doggy.  :o

I dated a very orthodox vegetarian. Had I've known, I would have never gone out with him, because he wanted to convert me. He even forced his cat on a vegetarian - even vegan - diet. Poor cat had kidney and bladder problems and even had his penis removed because of bladder stones. The vet forced him to feed the cat at least some meat.

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It's funny how our idiotic food pyramid mixed fats and sugars, and how many carbohydrates are recommended. No wonder Americans are fat as fuck.

I feel sorry for people with heart problems who had idiot doctors put them on low fat (high sugar/carb) diets which only made their problems worse.

 ::)

/meltdown

Not only Americans...

I'm allergic to wheat and my allergist agreed on avoiding wheat like the plague. But she also insisted on a alternative grain-based diet, because grains are good, fats are bad. According to her my staple food should be corn, rice, millet, oats and so on. She almost made it sound like I would die instantly when I eat a meal of salmon and salad instead of GF bread with jam...  ::)

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Re: Paleolithic style diet
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2014, 03:48:08 AM »
Well it is important that a humans modern diet should reflect what they ate during the earlier stages of their evolution (animal flesh, vegetation etc).

However ultimately everything we eat is broken down to the molecular level - glucose, fatty acids and amino acids. Our bodies can not recognise the source of the nutrients we take in - a glucose molecule obtained through the digestion of broccoli is chemically identical to a glucose molecule in a can of pepsi. Obviously the body benefits greatly from the micronutrients (vitamins, minerals etc) from "natural" foods that are not found in modern processed food items.
The intake of energy is what our physiology causes us to seek out above all else - modern junk foods are therefore craved because of their high caloric density.

Cats and all felids are somewhat different in that they are obligate carnivores. This means that unlike dogs, bears, humans etc. they lack the ability to digest plant matter and can not synthesise certain essential amino acids from food sources that are not whole sources of protein (i.e. animal flesh). In other words the best diet for your cat is 100% meat based. They supplement this themselves by ingesting certain plant matter like grass on occasion, simply to help with digestion or as an emetic. (In the wild, the skin and fur of prey would serve this purpose).

Good post, I appreciate the thought that went into that!

According to her my staple food should be corn, rice, millet, oats and so on. She almost made it sound like I would die instantly when I eat a meal of salmon and salad instead of GF bread with jam...  ::)

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I don't understand what could possibly be going through these "professionals" heads.

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Re: Paleolithic style diet
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2014, 03:56:51 AM »
Well it is important that a humans modern diet should reflect what they ate during the earlier stages of their evolution (animal flesh, vegetation etc).

However ultimately everything we eat is broken down to the molecular level - glucose, fatty acids and amino acids. Our bodies can not recognise the source of the nutrients we take in - a glucose molecule obtained through the digestion of broccoli is chemically identical to a glucose molecule in a can of pepsi. Obviously the body benefits greatly from the micronutrients (vitamins, minerals etc) from "natural" foods that are not found in modern processed food items.
The intake of energy is what our physiology causes us to seek out above all else - modern junk foods are therefore craved because of their high caloric density.

I agree that a glucose molecule from broccoli is the same as a glucose molecule from a pepsi. But a piece of broccoli contains more than just glucose molecules, and so does a can of pepsi. And those extra's are not the same...

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Cats and all felids are somewhat different in that they are obligate carnivores. This means that unlike dogs, bears, humans etc. they lack the ability to digest plant matter and can not synthesise certain essential amino acids from food sources that are not whole sources of protein (i.e. animal flesh). In other words the best diet for your cat is 100% meat based. They supplement this themselves by ingesting certain plant matter like grass on occasion, simply to help with digestion or as an emetic. (In the wild, the skin and fur of prey would serve this purpose).

That's why I changed the diets of our cats to nearly 100% meat. Nearly, because old habits die hard...