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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2014, 08:27:22 PM »
I agree. He should have won in 2012 if Phil didn't compete.  :(

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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2014, 08:30:02 PM »
Haneys structure was very good also, just his upper body seemed over developed in comparison to his legs.
Dorian 93 prior to injury and waist growing was as close to perfection in terms of size structure and condition with no obvious overall obvious weaknesses we have seen, for me the look is still to overly dependant on drugs im not a fan of modern bodybuilding but giving credit where its due, Bodybuilding peaked that day, Ronnie had more muscle, but structure wise they are light years apart. Later versions of Dorian also dont compare, Flex earlier in 93 at the ironman must be close to the second best all time shape, with Leverone 92 at the olympia my personal third.

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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2014, 03:52:56 AM »
what about Branch at last ears O

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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2014, 04:06:31 AM »
I don't think that any of those guys had a better structure than Lee Haney.
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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2014, 05:03:11 AM »
Best structure? Sergio Oliva.

For Kai, what a big difference between 2012 and the last Olympia!!

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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2014, 05:30:19 AM »
YES, YOU ARE RIGHT, BUT THE JUDGES WAS BLIND. HE WAS THE WINNER, BUT THIS WHAT IFBB JUDGES.


WHEN JUDGES SEE KAI, THEY SEE ALSO THIS:


END OF STORY, NO MATTER HOW GOOD HE LOOK

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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2014, 06:02:22 AM »
Best structure? Sergio Oliva.

For Kai, what a big difference between 2012 and the last Olympia!!

Kai was over 270lbs last year. He needs to condition it.
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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2014, 06:23:34 AM »
Fixed.
TOTALLY AGREE IT WAS FIXED BEFORE THE SHOW.

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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2014, 06:26:04 AM »
Should have won the mr o = yes
One of the best physiques ever = no
YES, AGREE.

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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2014, 10:57:11 AM »
Dorian best modern day bodybuilding structure, Arnold best classic structure maybe even bettered by Zane.
What, you must be trolling? Levrone famously had saidin which he said that Dorian was not the genetically blessed with a good structure, but he did the best with what he had. And others have said that as well. I believe Dorian himself even said that his structure/physique wasn't "pretty". Dorian was very blocky. The fact is that the best structure or aethestically perfect physique does not win, but the most freakiest.

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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2014, 11:13:36 AM »

Seems that he did plastic surgery to remove his facial scar ?

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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2014, 11:17:19 AM »
What, you must be trolling? Levrone famously had saidin which he said that Dorian was not the genetically blessed with a good structure, but he did the best with what he had. And others have said that as well. I believe Dorian himself even said that his structure/physique wasn't "pretty". Dorian was very blocky. The fact is that the best structure or aethestically perfect physique does not win, but the most freakiest.
Exactly why he said best 'modern' structure. Dude had the perfect structure to carry that freaky mass. You seem tp forget this is subjevtive, there isnt a 'ideal' structure.  Its whatever looks good to you. I prefer his structure over a flex, he looks like a tank, massive and powerful, herculean. Not pretty, but no one ever said 'pretty' is ideal.

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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2014, 11:22:47 AM »
Exactly why he said best 'modern' structure. Dude had the perfect structure to carry that freaky mass. You seem tp forget this is subjevtive, there isnt a 'ideal' structure.  Its whatever looks good to you. I prefer his structure over a flex, he looks like a tank, massive and powerful, herculean. Not pretty, but no one ever said 'pretty' is ideal.
i got you, and agree with your points.

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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2014, 09:29:26 PM »
Lot if guys between Kai and Coleman
Dillet Nasser Cormier levrone ray I'd even throw Aaron baker in there
It makes me laugh when people compare hear and Kai to Coleman or any of the guys I mentioned
I distinctly remember Cormier  saying Kai physique looks like a frog... Harsh but compared to a guy like Cormier .. True... Kai is good for nowadays SHIT STANDARDS but should never be used in any sentence where the word ever follows the word greatest.
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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2014, 11:48:18 PM »
Lot if guys between Kai and Coleman
Dillet Nasser Cormier levrone ray I'd even throw Aaron baker in there
It makes me laugh when people compare hear and Kai to Coleman or any of the guys I mentioned
I distinctly remember Cormier  saying Kai physique looks like a frog... Harsh but compared to a guy like Cormier .. True... Kai is good for nowadays SHIT STANDARDS but should never be used in any sentence where the word ever follows the word greatest.

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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #40 on: June 21, 2014, 01:23:27 AM »
I agree. He should have won in 2012.  :(

Yes but a lot has changed in 2 years. He looks like shit now.

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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #41 on: June 21, 2014, 02:34:23 AM »
Now doubt in any sane mind he was the the 2012 winner.

In about  2007 he had this weird squashed torso look.He sorted that. Think that were the frog comment come from.
+ Cormier always seemed pretty precious.
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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #42 on: June 21, 2014, 02:37:00 AM »
Haneys structure was very good also, just his upper body seemed over developed in comparison to his legs.
Dorian 93 prior to injury and waist growing was as close to perfection in terms of size structure and condition with no obvious overall obvious weaknesses we have seen, for me the look is still to overly dependant on drugs im not a fan of modern bodybuilding but giving credit where its due, Bodybuilding peaked that day, Ronnie had more muscle, but structure wise they are light years apart. Later versions of Dorian also dont compare, Flex earlier in 93 at the ironman must be close to the second best all time shape, with Leverone 92 at the olympia my personal third.
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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #43 on: June 21, 2014, 08:13:17 AM »
WHEN JUDGES SEE KAI, THEY SEE ALSO THIS:


END OF STORY, NO MATTER HOW GOOD HE LOOK




QFT..
KAI will never win the O

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« Reply #44 on: June 21, 2014, 09:03:56 AM »
WHEN JUDGES SEE KAI, THEY SEE ALSO THIS:


END OF STORY, NO MATTER HOW GOOD HE LOOK
TBH that should put him first bearing in mind the backstage shenanigans that goes on in bodybuilding.

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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #45 on: June 21, 2014, 09:07:15 AM »
TBH that should put him first bearing in mind the backstage shenanigans that goes on in bodybuilding.
I was gonna say, half the judges were probably present and paying kai for front row seats during the making of that video.

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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #46 on: June 21, 2014, 09:13:37 AM »
Ronnie quads to big for his hamstrings from the side, long legs short torso, long rib cage short midsection, long arms. Muscle and condition for the sake of it Ronnie probably wont ever be surpassed, but structure wise hes the worst mr olympia ever. Kai structure at this point isnt good, but  at its best and hes more balanced than Ron particularly through the hammies and calves, yeah his backs short in comparison and Ronnie has far more muscle, but hes more pleasing to the front and side than Ronnie was.

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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #47 on: June 21, 2014, 09:19:54 AM »
Sure.


Well the fact that his calves are cut off kind of proves his point.
Too many people get blinded by coleman lust, he was great but he had huge holes and flaws in his physique, just like Doz, just like all mr Os.. Open your eyes.

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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #48 on: June 21, 2014, 10:26:50 AM »
Greatest structure ever seen in bodybuiding is Dillett's, the real X frame, with Oliva second probably... Agreed with Shockwave about Coleman and others Olympias...

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Re: 2012 Kai Greene must be one of the best physiques ever.
« Reply #49 on: June 21, 2014, 11:11:48 AM »