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Re: Would HEATH survive in this lineup?
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2014, 06:35:11 AM »
I do not think he would.  Heath would be in the top 6 or 7. 
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Re: Would HEATH survive in this lineup?
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2014, 06:51:24 AM »
To be fair, Phil can be 2nd in this line up. Phil is way more complete than Flex.

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Re: Would HEATH survive in this lineup?
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2014, 08:27:42 AM »
I got Phil in 8th behind Dillet.

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Re: Would HEATH survive in this lineup?
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2014, 08:35:35 AM »
phil and dexter jackson are the same size.  dexter got 9th
with that argument you might as well say  Jay placed 15th and him and Phil are close  ;)

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Re: Would HEATH survive in this lineup?
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2014, 09:00:48 AM »
with that argument you might as well say  Jay placed 15th and him and Phil are close  ;)

OTH, hopefully you know  that i'm aware that bodybuilding is more than just taking up space.   but I truly believe Phil and Dex are more or less equal physique wise, and BOTH would look small in this lineup.

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Re: Would HEATH survive in this lineup?
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2014, 09:07:15 AM »
Looking back IMO Cormier should have been 2nd and Wheeler 3rd.   There is no way Phil would look small next to Flex or Cormier.

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Re: Phil Heath - Would he have been first or second at the 1999 Olympia?
« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2014, 09:35:29 AM »

Ronnie was incredible here. Flex Wheeler was probably one of the most symmetrical bodybuilders on stage that night.  But the same question - muscularity vs symmetry is always played, and usually muscularity wins. 

as for Phil Heath, Ronnie was the #1 bodybuilder and would of stayed that way.




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Re: Phil Heath - Would he have been first or second at the 1999 Olympia?
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2014, 09:52:42 AM »
This would be the 1st and the last callout by a countrymile, and anyone else would stand in the background crying. Anyone who's claiming anything else is completely clueless. Those guys today are in a whole different league.


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Re: Phil Heath - Would he have been first or second at the 1999 Olympia?
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2014, 10:13:18 AM »
This would be the 1st and the last callout by a countrymile, and anyone else would stand in the background crying. Anyone who's claiming anything else is completely clueless. Those guys today are in a whole different league.



you know absolutely nothing. Ronnie destroys Kai and Phil.
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Re: Phil Heath - Would he have been first or second at the 1999 Olympia?
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2014, 10:14:51 AM »
and yet ronnie back in those days would have destroyed them both
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Re: Phil Heath - Would he have been first or second at the 1999 Olympia?
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2014, 10:16:45 AM »
This would be the 1st and the last callout by a countrymile, and anyone else would stand in the background crying. Anyone who's claiming anything else is completely clueless. Those guys today are in a whole different league.



ronnie destroying little phil.

Heath looks like an amateur compared to Ronnie.



Ronnie destroying him from the back

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Re: Phil Heath - Would he have been first or second at the 1999 Olympia?
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2014, 10:19:20 AM »
here's Dex vs. heath and Dex vs. Ronnie. 

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Re: Phil Heath - Would he have been first or second at the 1999 Olympia?
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2014, 10:22:47 AM »
and yet ronnie back in those days would have destroyed them both

Yeah, can you imagine how Phil would look like on a 90s VHS under that kind of lightning? lmao

Not even with Photoshop u could creat that kind of sharpening effect ;D

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Re: Phil Heath - Would he have been first or second at the 1999 Olympia?
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2014, 10:29:01 AM »
here's Dex vs. heath and Dex vs. Ronnie. 

Good point. And here's Heath vs Jay and Jay vs Ronnie ::)


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Re: Would HEATH survive in this lineup?
« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2014, 10:54:15 AM »
Heath would not have been in this call out.
Heath could have never, never  placed in front of Kev, Flex Ray or Chris.
If he was 100% on and Nas was off, could maybe take him but probably not.

Al these guys have great too incredible structures.
Heaths structure very weak.

These fellas would always make Phil look like a lost little boy. Sorry.
Wouldbt make top 10... Not on the same level as ray levrone Nasser dillet Cormier ., I won't even mention flex or Coleman
Heath is overrated much
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Re: Phil Heath - Would he have been first or second at the 1999 Olympia?
« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2014, 11:11:47 AM »
We have to remember that in 1999, most if not all of the early 90s gods were burned out, shadows of their former level... Except Coleman and Cormier, who looked phenomenal, top two at that show, imo... Flex oilbag, Nasser the same, Dillett was at 40% of his top shape, Levrone same, and so on, most of them burned out... Still i would put peak Heath (2010-2011) in the lower top 10...

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Re: Phil Heath - Would he have been first or second at the 1999 Olympia?
« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2014, 12:02:20 PM »
Ronnie would win so easy it's not even funny. Game over!!!

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Re: Would HEATH survive in this lineup?
« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2014, 12:10:28 PM »
OTH, hopefully you know  that i'm aware that bodybuilding is more than just taking up space.   but I truly believe Phil and Dex are more or less equal physique wise, and BOTH would look small in this lineup.
ya but to say Phil would place that low is outrageous. You know how they judge, it is not who we prefer up there, it is the IFBB and they would have Phil in the first call out, whoever is saying they wouldn't is due to preference not knowledge on how they judge at this level in the IFBB

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Re: Phil Heath - Would he have been first or second at the 1999 Olympia?
« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2014, 12:50:33 PM »
Ronnie would win so easy it's not even funny. Game over!!!

You must be either smokin' crack or blind. Look at their lower back goddammit! Coleman's back is paper-thin compared to Kai! Kai's back is 3'' "deeper" with 15 pds more beef overall :o

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Re: Would HEATH survive in this lineup?
« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2014, 01:06:01 PM »
ya but to say Phil would place that low is outrageous. You know how they judge, it is not who we prefer up there, it is the IFBB and they would have Phil in the first call out, whoever is saying they wouldn't is due to preference not knowledge on how they judge at this level in the IFBB
Good post, its not really about the best physique anymore, its about marketability.

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Re: Phil Heath - Would he have been first or second at the 1999 Olympia?
« Reply #45 on: June 22, 2014, 01:10:42 PM »
You must be either smokin' crack or blind. Look at their lower back goddammit! Coleman's back is paper-thin compared to Kai! Kai's back is 3'' "deeper" with 15 pds more beef overall :o

I like how you conveniently skipped over the pics I posted. Youre either dumb or blind if you think Phil was a better bodybuilder than Ronnie.

Heath looks like an amateur compared to Ronnie.





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Re: Phil Heath - Would he have been first or second at the 1999 Olympia?
« Reply #46 on: June 22, 2014, 01:15:10 PM »
I like how you conveniently skipped over the pics I posted. Youre either dumb or blind if you think Phil was a better bodybuilder than Ronnie.

Heath looks like an amateur compared to Ronnie.

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Re: Phil Heath - Would he have been first or second at the 1999 Olympia?
« Reply #47 on: June 22, 2014, 01:25:06 PM »
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Thanks for proving my point. The only thing Phil has ronnie beat on is arms. Phil has no width, shit chest and small legs.
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Re: Phil Heath - Would he have been first or second at the 1999 Olympia?
« Reply #48 on: June 22, 2014, 01:26:58 PM »
Ronnie has better traps, more striated, and vascular, bigger shoulders, biggest chest.

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Re: Phil Heath - Would he have been first or second at the 1999 Olympia?
« Reply #49 on: June 22, 2014, 01:27:58 PM »
Yeah, can you imagine how Phil would look like on a 90s VHS under that kind of lightning? lmao

Not even with Photoshop u could creat that kind of sharpening effect ;D
Phils structure would never be able to stand next to Ronnie.

Hes comparable to Dex in width, and dex is known as little ronnie because ronnje dwarfed him.

sorry bro, I know you love to jump on whoever the current bandwagon is, but Phil is too narrow to carry ronnies jockstrap. ... it would be wider than he is.