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Lord Chronos

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Pre-workout poison?
« on: June 25, 2014, 12:47:05 PM »


How many people here use pre-workout/Nitric oxide formula's?

Arginine, aakg, and citrulline all convert to nitric oxide which combines with oxygen to form peroxynitrite, a pro-oxidant which causes cellular oxidative injurty (cytotoxicity). Peroxynitrite interacts with lipids, DNA, and proteins via direct oxidative reactions or via indirect, radical-mediated mechanisms. These reactions trigger cellular responses ranging from subtle modulations of cell signaling to overwhelming oxidative injury, committing cells to necrosis or apoptosis. In vivo, peroxynitrite generation represents a crucial pathogenic mechanism in conditions such as stroke, myocardial infarction, chronic heart failure, diabetes, circulatory shock, chronic inflammatory diseases, cancer, and neurodegenerative disorders.

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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2014, 01:31:43 PM »


jesus. seriously?
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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2014, 01:50:40 PM »
Citation?
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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2014, 02:49:12 PM »
Tried Neuroserge, White Flood, Focus XT, Hemo-rage, Enhanced in the last months.

Enhanced was the shittiest for me.

Focus XT is the closest feeling to Craze I've come upon so far.
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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2014, 02:53:38 PM »
i train fasted...so no need for a pre workout....stuff taste like shit anyways

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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2014, 08:56:05 PM »
Noxplode made my anus xplode
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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2014, 09:43:01 PM »
Show us the studies, studddd
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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2014, 12:13:57 AM »
This is well established that NO will cause oxidative stress. To what extent is still pretty unclear. I don't think its disastrous...either way I still take extra vitamin C pre workout especially if I'm taking NO supps.
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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2014, 01:19:15 AM »
Quote from: no one on June 25, 2014, 01:31:43 PM

jesus. seriously?
what stimulant doesn't pose any of those threats? NO is fucken brutal though  :-\
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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2014, 01:36:40 AM »
It makes me so nausea that I throw up during training.
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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2014, 03:36:59 AM »
Craze is still the nectar of the gods.

The pre-DMAA HemoRage gave me obscene amounts of energy.
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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2014, 04:10:13 AM »
Quote from: HavoX on June 25, 2014, 08:56:05 PM
Noxplode made my anus xplode

LMAO! That was a legit lol!  :D
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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2014, 04:13:08 AM »
I was tempted to used SHREDZ but i am affraid i might get jaundice...   ::)
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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2014, 05:37:40 AM »
Quote from: falco on June 26, 2014, 04:13:08 AM
I was tempted to used SHREDZ but i am affraid i might get jaundice...   ::)
Its most likely the shitty Aussie brand that caused my friends liver probs.
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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2014, 05:39:54 AM »
Haven't used any supps in years. I drink coffee before training and that's about it.
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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2014, 06:08:00 AM »
Quote from: MORTALCOIL on June 26, 2014, 05:39:54 AM
Haven't used any supps in years. I drink coffee before training and that's about it.

thats best, i used to take some ephedrine and stir it iin black cup of coffee n then swallow an asprin,i was bouncin off the waLLS, thought i was going to have cardiac arrest at times
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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2014, 06:20:43 AM »
I am done with the pre workout supplements took nanovapor before working out and i keep getting diarrhea.
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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2014, 07:52:06 AM »
my preworkout is no breakfast a shower and some loud music blasting in my ears.

maybe some test suspension on odd occasions

but if you need a dangerous chemically loaded supplement to be able to have energy to train, then you must be the biggest beta bitch on the planet
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Hulkotron

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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2014, 07:52:53 AM »
"Pre-workout" "Nutrition" oh brother
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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2014, 07:57:11 AM »
Quote from: Hulkotron on June 26, 2014, 07:52:53 AM
"Pre-workout" "Nutrition" oh brother

yeah brah gotta get dos bcaas and glutamine with creatine otherwise your gains go out the window  ;D

dont forget your intra and post workout shakes too essential stuff its how jay cutler got huge


on a serous note though, if your using insulin and growth then such things are probably pretty essential...
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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2014, 07:58:54 AM »
I find it very easy to lift on a completely empty stomach or even when hungry.

Cardio while hungry is difficult though.
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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2014, 08:03:19 AM »
Quote from: Hulkotron on June 26, 2014, 07:58:54 AM
I find it very easy to lift on a completely empty stomach or even when hungry.

Cardio while hungry is difficult though.

Empty stomach= test booster (or so they say) so good for lifting.
Empty stomach: no glycemia regulation so shitty for running.
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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2014, 08:12:36 AM »
I Used X-Plode from BSN like for a year straight .... I was (am) addicted to the point I don't feel like hitting the gym without the pump,rush, energy I get from it ....Stopped using it recently....


However, I'm using another formula that feels even stronger now .


WoooSSHHHHHHHH
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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2014, 08:12:48 AM »
I like sitting on my ass after I eat.  4 hours no food, hydrated, no caffeine gives me good focus.  Fwiw.

Hat's off to the guys who train early.  I can't find the groove in the AM.  I'm morning grooveless.
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Re: Pre-workout poison?
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2014, 08:32:45 AM »
Quote from: Tapeworm on June 26, 2014, 08:12:48 AM
I like sitting on my ass after I eat.  4 hours no food, hydrated, no caffeine gives me good focus.  Fwiw.

Hat's off to the guys who train early.  I can't find the groove in the AM.  I'm morning grooveless.

You sound still crazy after all these years.

Peace bro.
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