8 weeks plan to be in shape for vacation

[Damios]

nice, a lot less complicated, you dropped calories, seems like you made a SOLID plan here.

GOOD LUCK BROTHER, KEEP US POSTED. 

Of course.

It will be my first time with less than 100g carbs. I always get advices on other BB Boards about that i need go high with Carbs when i want to keep my muscles and build new tissues ( you know something like that you need insulin and cals surplus to gain muscles ).

[OTHstrong]

Of course.

It will be my first time with less than 100g carbs. I always get advices on other BB Boards about that i need go high with Carbs when i want to keep my muscles and build new tissues ( you know something like that you need insulin and cals surplus to gain muscles ).

the only thing carbs does is fill out the muscle, nothing more, you do not need to fill out your muscle during ''dieting phase'' you can if you want but the end result is the same whether you do or do not.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Why the 2 on/2 off approach for ECA?  Just run it straight for the last 4-6 weeks.  With T3 ramp up and ramp down to not fuck up your thyroid.  If the 50 Mg tren ED is working fine try to gradually get up to 100 per day.  Don't forget to   Anyone give you tips of what not to do on your vacation?  Don't forget your liver and kidneys will be taxed so don't all of a sudden binge drink.  Also don't start eating carbs without heistation or you will smooth out and wonder what the fuck happened.

[Damios]

the only thing carbs does is fill out the muscle, nothing more, you do not need to fill out your muscle during ''dieting phase'' you can if you want but the end result is the same whether you do or do not.

In my country people belive in Carbs etc. Some of bullshits which You can hear here;

1. Going under 2000 cals = 100% lose muscle,
2. The best way to cut: moderate protein, high carb, very low fat,
3. Fats are slowing your metabolism which is blocking fat loss,
4. You must go above calories maint for build muscles even with AAS,
5. You only need about ~1g proteins/lb. All above it = stored as fat or glucose,
6. T3 + Clen need a lot of carbs in diet to 100% working,
7. T3 + AAS = muscle loss,
8. CARBS ALWAYS ARE BETTER THAN FATS, FOR 90% PEOPLE.

Etc. etc. 

[the trainer]

In my country people belive in Carbs etc. Some of bullshits which You can hear here;

1. Going under 2000 cals = 100% lose muscle,
2. The best way to cut: moderate protein, high carb, very low fat,
3. Fats are slowing your metabolism which is blocking fat loss,
4. You must go above calories maint for build muscles even with AAS,
5. You only need about ~1g proteins/lb. All above it = stored as fat or glucose,
6. T3 + Clen need a lot of carbs in diet to 100% working,
7. T3 + AAS = muscle loss,
8. CARBS ALWAYS ARE BETTER THAN FATS, FOR 90% PEOPLE.

Etc. etc. 

They are correct retard if you are willing to eat clean all year round you can eat carbs and always be in good shape but since you dont have that discipline you have to go to the extreme and drop crabs.

[funk51]

175lbs, 5,64ft, ~10-11%BF. Goal is ~7-8%BF.

Meal 1

P: 50g C: 40g F: 2g

Meal 2

P: 48g C: 5g F: 9g

Meal 3

P: 47g C: 0g F: 7g

Meal 4 ( Pre Workout )

P: 50g C: 60g F: 2g

Meal 5 ( Whey Shake after Workout )

P: 40g C: 5g F: 4g

Meal 6 ( Post Workout )

P: 50g C: 60g F: 2g

Meal 7

P: 40g C: 2g F: 27g

TOTAL: ~2600cals P: ~325g C: ~175g F: ~55g

Protein: chicken breast, eggs, wpc
Carbs: basmati rice
Fats: Coconut Oil, Walnuts, Yolk
+ Veggies

5x Weight Training ( 1x body part per week, high volume ), 7x Cardio ( 5x 40min after workout, 2x 60min in non workout )

Test P 100mg eod
Tren A 75mg eod
Winny Oral 50mg ed
T3 50-75mcg ed

Any suggestion?

[El Diablo Blanco]

In my country people belive in Carbs etc. Some of bullshits which You can hear here;

1. Going under 2000 cals = 100% lose muscle,
2. The best way to cut: moderate protein, high carb, very low fat,
3. Fats are slowing your metabolism which is blocking fat loss,
4. You must go above calories maint for build muscles even with AAS,
5. You only need about ~1g proteins/lb. All above it = stored as fat or glucose,
6. T3 + Clen need a lot of carbs in diet to 100% working,
7. T3 + AAS = muscle loss,
8. CARBS ALWAYS ARE BETTER THAN FATS, FOR 90% PEOPLE.

Etc. etc. 

T3 supplementation is almost essential with the use of Tren since it causes a big drop in natural T3 production.

[Damios]

They are correct retard if you are willing to eat clean all year round you can eat carbs and always be in good shape but since you dont have that discipline you have to go to the extreme and drop crabs.

Maybe yes.

But i think ( and what i learnt on GetBig  ) it is always better to keep higher proteins, primarily with AAS.

1. High Proteins + Moderate/Low Carbs = 2200 cals
2. Moderate Proteins + High Carbs = 2200 cals

1st option will be better for muscles imo, but i can be wrong of course

This is why i hit GetBig Board; to learn here a lot. 

[OTHstrong]

In my country people belive in Carbs etc. Some of bullshits which You can hear here;

1. Going under 2000 cals = 100% lose muscle,
2. The best way to cut: moderate protein, high carb, very low fat,
3. Fats are slowing your metabolism which is blocking fat loss,
4. You must go above calories maint for build muscles even with AAS,
5. You only need about ~1g proteins/lb. All above it = stored as fat or glucose,
6. T3 + Clen need a lot of carbs in diet to 100% working,
7. T3 + AAS = muscle loss,
8. CARBS ALWAYS ARE BETTER THAN FATS, FOR 90% PEOPLE.

Etc. etc. 

my point is/was they serve no necessary purpose in dieting

[OTHstrong]

They are correct retard if you are willing to eat clean all year round you can eat carbs and always be in good shape but since you dont have that discipline you have to go to the extreme and drop crabs.

it is the opposite, it takes way more discipline to ''not'' eat carbs.

You can do whatever you want, you can eat buffet followed by 4 hours of cardio and get shredded, whatever you want but ''no carbs'' is simply quicker and I do not like paying for the same real estate twice.

[Damios]

Btw, OTH; you can experience something like "plateau" in lose fat with low/zero carbs or it's impossible on diet like this?

With high carbs i hitted it every one/two weeks and i needed always drop cals or add cardio.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Btw, OTH; you can experience something like "plateau" in lose fat with low/zero carbs or it's impossible on diet like this?

With high carbs i hitted it every one/two weeks and i needed always drop cals or add cardio.

You always need to drop cals throughout a diet, as you lose weight your caloric need decreases but if you eat the same you'll plateau since you aren't reducing your calories throughout.

[Simple Simon]

it is the opposite, it takes way more discipline to ''not'' eat carbs.

You can do whatever you want, you can eat buffet followed by 4 hours of cardio and get shredded, whatever you want but ''no carbs'' is simply quicker and I do not like paying for the same real estate twice.

truth.

[Damios]

You always need to drop cals throughout a diet, as you lose weight your caloric need decreases but if you eat the same you'll plateau since you aren't reducing your calories throughout.

But if you start with very low cals it will take a lot of time to hit plateau.

Next thing is that i think fat doesn't need calories.

[OTHstrong]

Btw, OTH; you can experience something like "plateau" in lose fat with low/zero carbs or it's impossible on diet like this?

With high carbs i hitted it every one/two weeks and i needed always drop cals or add cardio.

I eat 1lb of fish and 1lb of chicken breast per day with a full bag of mixed vegetables and my first plateau on this amount is at the 6% bodyfat mark. No matter where I begin, even at 15%, I will hit 6% eating these foods daily

so the answer is no (plateua) in most cases

[Damios]

Right now.

[OTHstrong]

dam bro, you are fucken doing it, good for you man, stay with it, looking fucken lean

[njflex]

Right now.

LOOK SHARP,, CLEAN THAT KITCHEN THO AND THROW OUT THOSE USED CONDOMS,,

[Complex Carbs]

Looking shredded, see, no need to over think this.

Just train and eat clean and not too much and that is it.

Nice gyno.

[Damios]

Finished.



Is it good %BF for start add muscle tissues?

[stavios]

good fucking job man that's a nice condition that you can maintain year round with some discipline

[_aj_]

Using the "King" Kamali kitchen lighting pic I see...

[BigCyp]

Looking great bro, if my bodyfat was that low this week I would wank myself unconsious looking in the mirror 

No homo obviously

[OTHstrong]

good job, this is contest shape, a few minor adjustments and your stage ready, very few can get here, let alone get here and not compete.

Vacation time?.

Those are some crazy oblique serratus tie ins.

[Damios]

I was on vacation, i made photos when i came back

Right now i want to add slow lean mass.

I'm thinking about 250mg test E + 400mg deca or 400mg master E or 300mg Tren E.

I'll be slow add carbs to 200-300g day. Proteins ~250g and Fats ~50g.

I'm still undecided about training. I love go to the gym 6x week, it is open 24/7 and i have a lot of time right now. But i don't think that training 6x week is optimal in growth time... Maybe someone want to advise? :-)